*steals your pictures first*
Rodney: Ah come on! She's your girlfriend I bet you can talk her into leaving the rec room to the geek squad, we haven't watched "Jay and Silent Bob" for a month!
John: You haven't watched... what? Tell me you're not serious, Rodney!
Open mouth enter foot, writers. Your continuity rocks so much I can't tell. No love, Anuna
You're spot on again, Eri. By the way I nearly forgot Elizabeth shouting moment. That was so awesomely cool! Anyway, whoever says Sparky isn't canon, si gravely mistaken. here we are handed a proof that John - Elizabeth relationship, call it like you want - professionalism, friendship, flirt, love - is much stronger than Elizabeth's relationship with anyone here. Why does Rodney ask John to go and plead his case with Elizabeth? Because Rodney knows John can do it, unlike anyone else. Haha.
I like your take on John - I never thought about how forgiving he is before! How's that possible? But you're right, spot on again - he isn't someone to hold a grudge against people he cares about.
Again you gave me a lot of thought material, improved my insight and inspired fic ideas. Thank you!!!!
Rodney: Ah come on! She's your girlfriend I bet you can talk her into leaving the rec room to the geek squad, we haven't watched "Jay and Silent Bob" for a month!
John: You haven't watched... what? Tell me you're not serious, Rodney!
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I like this moment; I think it's one of John and Rodney's better ones, because it's not being 'boys' so much as being friends. Here, they demonstrate their connection, and how the two characters think about one another. Rodney obviously considers John a friend, and John thinks the same. But Rodney also knows how much pull John has with Elizabeth. Writers, you've out-foxed yourselves again. Adding this scene shows just how much Rodney believes John can influence her--rather than trying himself, or just writing a scene where John sticks up for him without being asked, Rodney is using John's relationship with Elizabeth as a trump card.
And, in turn, John complies. He knows, as we know, Rodney's right about the connection between he and Elizabeth. I love that in the discussion between he, Elizabeth and Caldwell, she continually negates Caldwell's arguments, and basically says no to the idea--even under threat of being trumped by the IOA--until John puts on his personal face and she recognizes it. Despite all of Elizabeth's better judgment, as we saw in "Duet" with Ronon, Elizabeth places her trust in John and allows them one more chance.
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The final scene I like, too--Rodney trying to apologize to John, and doing so in a more personal way than the others. I like John's mad at him; it goes to both his disappointment in Rodney's egoism and the fact that he relied on Rodney's word when arguing his case to Elizabeth. So in a way, John's anger is tri-fold: being mad at Rodney for betraying him; mad at himself for believing him; and angry that he betrayed Elizabeth's trust by convincing her to go ahead with Rodney's plan.
This is a McShep moment, though, and I like it in the sense of the relationships. It goes to the importance of Rodney's friends, who do matter to him even when it doesn't seem like it; and how closely John holds his friendships. One great thing about John is he doesn't hold grudges--obviously he's easy to forgive, as the final scene demonstrates. Especially with those he considers family.
I like how Rodney is closer to John than he is to Elizabeth, though he called her Elizabeth first. Rodney's never established the rapport with Elizabeth--even through 'The Storm/The Eye' situation. Their relationship is a friendship, but still has a business element to it. John and Elizabeth, however, have that personal connection even through the 'business' situations.
I like this moment; I think it's one of John and Rodney's better ones, because it's not being 'boys' so much as being friends. Here, they demonstrate their connection, and how the two characters think about one another. Rodney obviously considers John a friend, and John thinks the same. But Rodney also knows how much pull John has with Elizabeth. Writers, you've out-foxed yourselves again. Adding this scene shows just how much Rodney believes John can influence her--rather than trying himself, or just writing a scene where John sticks up for him without being asked, Rodney is using John's relationship with Elizabeth as a trump card.
And, in turn, John complies. He knows, as we know, Rodney's right about the connection between he and Elizabeth. I love that in the discussion between he, Elizabeth and Caldwell, she continually negates Caldwell's arguments, and basically says no to the idea--even under threat of being trumped by the IOA--until John puts on his personal face and she recognizes it. Despite all of Elizabeth's better judgment, as we saw in "Duet" with Ronon, Elizabeth places her trust in John and allows them one more chance.
snippage again
The final scene I like, too--Rodney trying to apologize to John, and doing so in a more personal way than the others. I like John's mad at him; it goes to both his disappointment in Rodney's egoism and the fact that he relied on Rodney's word when arguing his case to Elizabeth. So in a way, John's anger is tri-fold: being mad at Rodney for betraying him; mad at himself for believing him; and angry that he betrayed Elizabeth's trust by convincing her to go ahead with Rodney's plan.
This is a McShep moment, though, and I like it in the sense of the relationships. It goes to the importance of Rodney's friends, who do matter to him even when it doesn't seem like it; and how closely John holds his friendships. One great thing about John is he doesn't hold grudges--obviously he's easy to forgive, as the final scene demonstrates. Especially with those he considers family.
I like how Rodney is closer to John than he is to Elizabeth, though he called her Elizabeth first. Rodney's never established the rapport with Elizabeth--even through 'The Storm/The Eye' situation. Their relationship is a friendship, but still has a business element to it. John and Elizabeth, however, have that personal connection even through the 'business' situations.
You're spot on again, Eri. By the way I nearly forgot Elizabeth shouting moment. That was so awesomely cool! Anyway, whoever says Sparky isn't canon, si gravely mistaken. here we are handed a proof that John - Elizabeth relationship, call it like you want - professionalism, friendship, flirt, love - is much stronger than Elizabeth's relationship with anyone here. Why does Rodney ask John to go and plead his case with Elizabeth? Because Rodney knows John can do it, unlike anyone else. Haha.
I like your take on John - I never thought about how forgiving he is before! How's that possible? But you're right, spot on again - he isn't someone to hold a grudge against people he cares about.
Again you gave me a lot of thought material, improved my insight and inspired fic ideas. Thank you!!!!
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