Originally posted by Southern Red
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* a la Sam/Jack - harp on with the music (don't get me wrong, I was okay with S/J in the beginning), exchange many an inappropriate look, pine for said other for an inordinate period of time (even when a normal person would get the hint that they are not going to hook up) and so on, or
* slam the two of them together with almost no forewarning (lets grab a beer - oh hey btw I love you)
A mix of the two wouldn't hurt
Originally posted by Anuna
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S5 was a little better than S4 in my eyes. I was never able to warm up to Carter because of the fact that there was no point to her being there; other characters (namely Sheppard and McKay) did the things on SGA that Carter was known for on SG-1, so I found myself thinking more than once, 'okay, why is she here again?' Woolsey, on the other hand, was neither fish nor fowl (much like Weir), and I found him more tolerable, especially when he started getting some fun little details, like having a frakin' wine rack in his quarters stocked with vintage wines. Or the hilarious rip-off of Boston Legal with Woolsey and Sheppard drinking scotch and smoking cigars out on The Balcony. 
), but I didn't appreciate the BSG inserts.The lack of any major season-spanning arc left things feeling directionless, but I could tune out McKeller for the most part... except for Brain Storm. *headdesk* C'mon, guys, hitting us over the head with the so-called 'romance' is boring. The subtle nudge-nudge wink-wink vibe of Sparky was far more fun.
And let's not get started on the WTF-ery of Enemy at the Gate. *sighs*
I've got to agree, it was totally NOT the original Elizabeth in GitM. A copy of her memories and consciousness, perhaps altered by whoever created her, and perhaps not even realizing that she was not the real deal.
And your idea for how to do it with Torri was awesome. I still believe that the fact that TPTW only offered Torri one episode was what truly killed GitM and the Weir storyline (at least for now), because it demonstrated that they were not serious about completing the Weir storyline and they were taking Torri and the fans lightly. It needed more than one episode; it probably needs more than one piddly little 90 minute movie if they're going to finish it without rushing it like they did with Ark of Truth. *sighs*
Well developed, my butt.
Originally posted by Eri13
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Finally saw it! Great! Torri with red hair is awesome!!!
Yeah, on a couple of threads people have mentioned (in majority, I might add) 1) they never should have gotten rid of Weir and 2) she was their favorite leader. I think it's just beating a dead horse to say again that letting Elizabeth go was a mistake, but I'm always glad to hear more than just my friends say it.
What I liked about Teyla/Ronon was that Ronon always respected Teyla. In the episodes where Sheppard found out about her pregnancy, you saw how overprotective Sheppard could be. Not that he did it out of anything but concern and caring, but he still treated her with the 'gentleman's sense' of protection, whereas my take on Ronon was that he saw her as completely able to take care of herself and respected that always. I can't think of Ronon stepping in Teyla's way in any battle, at least not off the top of my head.
Ronon was like that with Elizabeth to a degree too--he protected her in stuff like TR, but he treated her fully with respect. I like him questioning her in CG flat out. She was his leader, and he treated her like the leader, not a woman-leader.
I have no doubt John would have been the knight-in-shining-armor for Elizabeth. But Elizabeth would have been okay with that because she was no warrior. That's another area where they balanced each other out.
On GITM: didn't Malozzi mention that it wasn't the real Weir? That they had ideas of the real Weir being secluded away somewhere? (the line in TMC where clone!Weir says 'I'm the only Weir out there' was supposed to be a tongue-in-cheek line). Or did he say that now since things had come out the way they did with Torri and the end of the series, that GITM had become canon?
*shrugs* I still like the idea she's out there. For me, the replicators would be too baffled by her ability to just destroy her. They're logical, they'd want to know how she worked--how a human could control the nanites like that. So they made copies of her to test her 'human abilities' but the real Weir was still out there, locked away, and when Asuras was destroyed, nobody knew it.
I don't know much about the renegade Asgard, but isn't the Asgard's worst enemy the Replicators? It would make sense they came back in some form...
I may have to watch S5. Not just because people do seem to recommend it (and I like RP and JS, even with McKeller) but I'd like to be filled in for some of the holes.
I do honestly think that if Torri had agreed to come back, they may have included her in the hallucination, though my thought was that it may have been Teyla morphing into her. That would have wreaked havoc with all shippers.
Yeah, on a couple of threads people have mentioned (in majority, I might add) 1) they never should have gotten rid of Weir and 2) she was their favorite leader. I think it's just beating a dead horse to say again that letting Elizabeth go was a mistake, but I'm always glad to hear more than just my friends say it.
What I liked about Teyla/Ronon was that Ronon always respected Teyla. In the episodes where Sheppard found out about her pregnancy, you saw how overprotective Sheppard could be. Not that he did it out of anything but concern and caring, but he still treated her with the 'gentleman's sense' of protection, whereas my take on Ronon was that he saw her as completely able to take care of herself and respected that always. I can't think of Ronon stepping in Teyla's way in any battle, at least not off the top of my head.
Ronon was like that with Elizabeth to a degree too--he protected her in stuff like TR, but he treated her fully with respect. I like him questioning her in CG flat out. She was his leader, and he treated her like the leader, not a woman-leader.
I have no doubt John would have been the knight-in-shining-armor for Elizabeth. But Elizabeth would have been okay with that because she was no warrior. That's another area where they balanced each other out.
On GITM: didn't Malozzi mention that it wasn't the real Weir? That they had ideas of the real Weir being secluded away somewhere? (the line in TMC where clone!Weir says 'I'm the only Weir out there' was supposed to be a tongue-in-cheek line). Or did he say that now since things had come out the way they did with Torri and the end of the series, that GITM had become canon?
*shrugs* I still like the idea she's out there. For me, the replicators would be too baffled by her ability to just destroy her. They're logical, they'd want to know how she worked--how a human could control the nanites like that. So they made copies of her to test her 'human abilities' but the real Weir was still out there, locked away, and when Asuras was destroyed, nobody knew it.
I don't know much about the renegade Asgard, but isn't the Asgard's worst enemy the Replicators? It would make sense they came back in some form...
I may have to watch S5. Not just because people do seem to recommend it (and I like RP and JS, even with McKeller) but I'd like to be filled in for some of the holes.
I do honestly think that if Torri had agreed to come back, they may have included her in the hallucination, though my thought was that it may have been Teyla morphing into her. That would have wreaked havoc with all shippers.
Inspired by SK's either/either comments
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