Crossroads, Part 2 (320)

[GateTrek2004]

i dunno, the prophecies do say she will not live to see earth, but i dont think she is, she didn't hear the music,
thats why i think it's starbuck!
it would also explain why she's there at the end. she's either resurrected or in lee's head like 6

Well from previews i have seen

Spoiler:

starbuck IS back in physical form, she is NOT a head person as in the previews ive seen she talks to anders, adama's, roslin.

[jsug2112]

I really enjoyed the episode a lot. I'm not all convinced of the ending, though. But we'll see as season four progresses.

"Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us. I like pigs. Pigs treat us as equals.
-Churchill"

[GATEGOD]

Maybe none of these four are cylons and they were all brainwashed while they were on that planet when the cylons took over. They were all there, it is a possibility. Eh, then again maybe not. I'm usually wrong I still thing The president is a cylon because she seemed to gets sick before the power went out lol

[Angela V]

Frak, I can't believe I had to wait this long to finally get to this point in BSG. I don't know how I was able to stay away from the big spoilers! I guess I should thank the fans. You guys are GREAT with spoiler tags! So wish Space wasn't so expensive to add to my cable package! grumple.

Well, I guess I have about a year to think about this ending. In the meantime, I'll start watching this faboulous series from the start! Even break out my Cyclon head that has the original series hidden in it and look for similarities.

[Trek_Girl42]

Frak, I can't believe I had to wait this long to finally get to this point in BSG. I don't know how I was able to stay away from the big spoilers! I guess I should thank the fans. You guys are GREAT with spoiler tags! So wish Space wasn't so expensive to add to my cable package! grumple.

Well, I guess I have about a year to think about this ending. In the meantime, I'll start watching this faboulous series from the start! Even break out my Cyclon head that has the original series hidden in it and look for similarities.

You didn't get spoiled! Wow.....that is impressive, considering how the cylon reveals/Starbuck return have been everywhere. Glad to hear you enjoyed it.

And SPACE has been going to crap lately ever since CTV bought them, if it's any consolation, I pretty much watch ONLY for BSG and hypaspace(which might lose me as well soon.....I don't watch the show for info on the latest touch phones/gadgets/macbook air. It is NOT supposed to be an infomercial!) at the moment, I'm too annoyed. Everything that made SPACE unique has been slowly chucked out the airlock the past few months. And you know they've lost sight of their audience when commercials for Desperate Housewives start appearing.....

Yeah.....it's a sore spot. They were the last good "audience friendly" channel.

[Trek_Girl42]

I was browsing through Mark Verheiden's blog and found this rather interesting:

Battlestar Galactica: Crossroads 2 And Those Fake Scenes...

I was going through my old files the other day and came across the "alternate" (i.e., fake) scenes we put together for the end of Crossroads 2, the season three finale, in an attempt to keep our major revelations from entering internet spoiler-ville before the show actually aired. Now that we're half way through season four, hopefully a discussion of events in season three (going all the way back to what we were doing in November/December of 2006!) won't be considered a spoiler...

The whole process of writing these alternate scenes was interesting. On the one hand, you don't really want to waste much time on something you have no intention of shooting. On the other hand, if the scene isn't at least vaguely convincing, everybody will know it's a ringer and you wind up calling MORE attention to the moment. Further, the cast and crew were going to prep the show, at least at first, off these bogus scenes, so they couldn't be wildly divergent from what we were actually planning.

In this case, we had two revelations to mask. The unveiling of four of the final five Cylons, and the back-from-the-dead reappearance of Starbuck. Now, speaking for myself here, I always assumed that people were more or less expecting Starbuck to come back at some point. But the revelation of the four new Cylons, THAT was going to be the real eye-opener.

So our first bogus scene basically fudged that revelation. Instead of the four realizing they're actually Cylons, they come to believe the Cylons brainwashed them back on New Caprica to (possibly) do bad things. (Remember, this is the bogus version. Tigh, Tory, Anders and Tyrol are Cylons, honest, no foolin'.) The scene between the four in the locked room became a rather expository examination of how this might have been done. It actually made sense contextually, because events prior to this scene (the music) certainly pointed toward SOME sort of Cylon revelation.

Starbuck's resurrection was easier to hide; that scene, which wound up being shot in our Vipers on what we call a "green screen" (special FX) day, just didn't exist in the script. (There were a couple different versions of THAT moment too, but that's a discussion for another time.) However, that left the released script without an ending. So the bogus version closed with a completely invented moment. After the Cylons have reappeared and our pilots are getting ready for battle, Lee rushes back to his quarters to grab a flight suit only to be confronted by Tigh, who promptly conks him over the head with a whiskey bottle (!). Leaving Tigh to wonder if the Manchurian Candidate mechanism had finally been triggered, and leaving poor Lee bleeding out on the floor.

As a season ender, not exactly riveting, but like I said, when you're in the middle of a hectic production schedule, you're scrambling hard enough to get the real script finished, you don't want to spend days crafting bogus material. Anyhow, it's all just a curious piece of BSG trivia now...




I've love to have a copy of that script.

[Kezia]

Interesting.

It'd be cool if they had filmed it, and stuck it in as a DVD bonus feature or something. You know, like those "alternate ending" thingys.

[Coco Pops]

I just heard the Podcast for the last episode. Well, so much for my theory. What's up with that? I guess that RDM considered that the first recital of the final version of the lyrics for the song just happened to be carried by a freak wormhole opened up in the fabric of the space-time continuum (the same incident that happened to Arthur Dent and the Vl'hurgs) to either Bob Dylan or his counterpart in the Colonies (while they happened to have a Babel fish in their ear) who decide to plagiarize the song in time for Vietnam and Watergate (or the Colonial equivalent).

I quite like that.........

It is a pity they chose not to acknowledge the real Earth as that would have lended some meat to the story of their journey

[chevron3]

Wow. this ep was simply amazing cn't wait for s4!

[Pharaoh Atem]

Wow. this ep was simply amazing cn't wait for s4!

I love when the music gets so intense during the power outage. (heeding the call) the 4 walking to the gym one of my favorite moments in the series.

[chevron3]

I love when the music gets so intense during the power outage. (heeding the call) the 4 walking to the gym one of my favorite moments in the series.

indeed. the ending of that ep was quite well done!

[Pharaoh Atem]

indeed. the ending of that ep was quite well done!

the only change i would make is make saul hearing the music a secret. so then when he walks into the gym it would sell the "whoa!!!" alot bette r

[lommit]

i must say that episode was really good. that music , and that ander,tight and the oters might be the 4 /5 last cyclons.. come on!! what a great ending, and the ressing of starbuck, i had idee that she might be back,after maelstrom.
that made the last 1o mins worth it all. was the great Cover song allalong the watchtower. that really gave it some depth

[Madwelshboy]

Now that was a cliffhanger!

[AresLover452]

I love the phone convo between Roslin and Adama during this part. it was great!!.. course i love everything about them.