The Political Discussion Thread

[Gatefan1976]

Well, almost right.
Any illegal should be deported upon detection, along with anyone dependent upon them. (No, your kids don't earn you a free ticket)
They are then free to apply for re-admittance LEGALLY, but of course their record of breaking the law by sneaking in the first time should be taken into account.

Kick out the first lady then, she was illegal.
Kick out her kid, he is an Anchor baby.
Charge your President for aiding and abetting a crime, cause he knew it.
Charge him with employing illegals at his hotels, because he chose to do it.

[Gatefan1976]

Did I say that someone else had to make the same decision? If you, for example, can't stand "House" to that level, you are perfectly free to decline his services and go elsewhere.

So, move out of the US?
OK, you have made your point.

And, need I remind you that the US as a whole took a look at the options in 2016 and put Trump in the White House? You can argue EC till you're blue in the face, but the fact is that Trump won the election. If they change their mind in 2020, so be it.

The fact is, that in the US the largest party is the people who do not care.
Trump won an archaic system that has been totally bastardized in relation to what it was designed to do, and in 30 years it is has been the only way you have been able to win in 30 years besides ONCE.
Let that sink in for a moment.
The ONLY reason your POV wins is because of:
1: The Electoral college
2: A nationwide terrorist attack.

In 30 YEARS, that's what you have got, and you dare say the "people are with you"???
What a JOKE.
The "people" who you claim to defend don't WANT your crap, and all it shows is you don't give two hard craps about other people, just using them to get what you want.

But it's entirely possible that the Democrats will screw up again, they've got a good head start on doing so, and Trump wins re-election. What are you gonna say then?

That Americans are far more stupid than I thought.

[Gatefan1976]

Ok, a few tidbits...

The more you know her, the more you hate her...

Rep. Ocasio-Cortez Better Known, but Image Skews Negative

You did not understand what was written.

Now, she does best with younger demographics.

And what is their concern?

Confirmed: Millennials' Top Financial Concern Is Student-Loan Debt

Now, I know that due to the epic failure of the education system these days, people don't know how to put two and two together, so I'll spell it out.

No, it is PARENTS who want to send kids to school because school provides better pay.

Her supporters primary interest is to have someone pay off their debts!

Then suggest a System where people can defer their debt until they make a living wage.
They still have to pay, but not until they make a wage, and it dies not matter what field they work in.
Our system is called HECS.

No! You signed the loan, you pay it off! Why should anyone else?

You would have NOTHING under that system because when you were a kid, you lived under socialist light.
You are arguing against the very thing that allows you to live where you are, have a house, have a car, and have a boat.

[Gatefan1976]

Anyone see GF's goalposts? Maybe Trump sent them to Russia

No, just Annoyed.

[jelgate]

So Annoyed was the one colluding with the Russians?

His blind loyalty to Trump suddenly makes sense

[Gatefan1976]

So Annoyed was the one colluding with the Russians?

His blind loyalty to Trump suddenly makes sense

No, Annoyed just does not know when he is being manipulated, and if he did, he does not care.

[jelgate]

Sounds like dementia is settling in.

[Gatefan1976]

Sounds like dementia is settling in.

More like lifelong cognitive dissonance
My parents did nothing for me, and my children can do less.

[Chaka-Z0]

You mean, like congresscritter Maxine Waters, (D., California) encouraging people to threaten, harass and in general make life difficult for conservatives at restaurants and other public places because she doesn't like their political opinions?

Oh, wait a minute, that's justified, isn't it.

That video was just some yutz using the NZ shooting as an excuse for an anti-Trump rant, nothing more.

You just made my point, thank you. This is what they say a call for public disobedience, a public form of protest which, as history proves, is the most effective form of protest. Nelson Mandela, Gandhi, the end of segregation in the US comes to mind.

The regime in power, the Trump Nation, requires such measures to be overthrown, sadly.

[Annoyed]

Difference is that the guy in this video gives an opinion whereas the right extremist ones you talk about incite to violence and hate speech. Plenty of pro-trump video around.

Personally I skipped that part bc I think YouTube talk-overs are cringy. But nothing in this video that breach the ToS.

You mean, like congresscritter Maxine Waters, (D., California) encouraging people to threaten, harass and in general make life difficult for conservatives at restaurants and other public places because she doesn't like their political opinions?

Oh, wait a minute, that's justified, isn't it.

That video was just some yutz using the NZ shooting as an excuse for an anti-Trump rant, nothing more.

You just made my point, thank you. This is what they say a call for public disobedience, a public form of protest which, as history proves, is the most effective form of protest. Nelson Mandela, Gandhi, the end of segregation in the US comes to mind.

The regime in power, the Trump Nation, requires such measures to be overthrown, sadly.

So, violence is ok if your side does it, but not to be tolerated otherwise, right?

Gotcha.

[jelgate]

Someone needs to read a history book. Chaka's examples are mostly nonviolence protests

[Gatefan1976]

Someone needs to read a history book. Chaka's examples are mostly nonviolence protests

Most of them attracted violent outlier's, or were initially violent.
Mandela as a activist was violent, As was the FOLLOWERS of MLK with the black panther party, and you can't ignore that.
What I wonder about is weather the violence, when it happened was warranted, and sadly it was. Colonialism spent hundreds of years stepping on people, and to even attempt to claim victimhood when the people you spent time stepping on fight back, you open yourself up to all claims of false victimization.

[jelgate]

I admit Mandela was violent towards the end but his protest started out as nonviolent which is why I included mostly nonviolent. I consider the Black Panthers more as a follower of Malcolm X then MLK

[Annoyed]

I admit Mandela was violent towards the end but his protest started out as nonviolent which is why I included mostly nonviolent. I consider the Black Panthers more as a follower of Malcolm X then MLK

You can't possibly equate Trump with things like that. They're not even close to being on the same level.

[jelgate]

Once again my goalposts have disappeared.