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YAY! MacGyver smilies! *grabs them and runs*
! All Aboard The Shipper Train!My Fanfiction:http://www.fanfiction.net/u/829644/I Heart ! Proud Member of Thunk For Club!Don't wait for your ship to come in. Swim out to it.
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Originally posted by DutchIndeed View PostOoooh, the flowers scene huh?
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Originally posted by jumble65 View PostLOL, yes! The mullet has been the subject of much discussion And, yes, I do prefer the shorter, silver streaked style of
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Originally posted by BrenRen View Post
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[QUOTE=jumble65;7597647]Originally posted by Gatetrixer View PostThis is very interesting subject. Not so much to me as to why the different reactions to two characters by the same actor, but the fact that quite often female fans do not want a favorite male character to "settle down." Better go OT as this is long.Spoiler:I doubt this is something pertaining to a certain era. I did not watch MacGyver until I became a fan of SG, then started taping them on whatever cable channel was showing them. Over halfway through I noticed the propensity to "kill off" or otherwise dispose of his female friends. One became a nun! Anyway, I asked on the GW Jack thread if anyone there could tell me if he ever did "get the girl." A noted Mac and RDA fan, answered. No. It just wouldn't do for a character like Mac, travelling over the world, mostly by himself , to have to come home to a certain partner. He needed to be footloose and fancy free for the stories. Plus she also mentioned the fans wanted him that way. I've noted it's also that way with fans of actors and/or star athletes. They often don't like it when he marries. Quite often they denegrate his choice. I think it would be fun to see a psychological study on this.. I think some female fans, visualize themselves someday meeting the actor or star. They'd like him still to be single possibly imagining themselves impressing him, though very likely it is not a conscious thought. Even if it's just a character ( like Mac) rather than a real person, I think the thought processes are similar. However many of the older comic book characters,& older shows' male heroes had a special girl, but nothing overt happened, both due to earlier constraints on showing sex and because their hero status prevented any settling down. They just happily fought the bad guys together or else the hero kept rescuing her. Well, I've gone on too long, but I'm sure Mac was not the only TV hero the fans didn't want to keep one girlfriend too long, though I can't name another one right now. I wonder if early Daniel fans (not J/D types) weren't all that sorry they didn't have to worry about Shar'e ever coming back. Now why no such worries about Jack? Who knows if there weren't some early on? But I really don't have any theories yet about that.
Have had lots of interesting responses to this question. Thanks everyone
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Yes, I see that some fans are like that, I’m sure I remember some members of ‘boy bands’ keeping engagements/marriages secret in case it affected their record sales!
About Jack, personally I don’t recall hearing about of feeling that he should stay single. Maybe the fact that he had been in a longish marriage and had had a son before we met him made him a different kettle of fish from Mac? Also, I agree that having Sam as part of the team from the start enabled us to ‘get to know’ them both at the same time and see the ship grow over a period of time, not the case with Mac.
Spoiler:a fan on the RDAnderson site was worried that the secret that RDA was going to reveal was that he was about to be married! Turns out the secret was his involvement in S10, which TPTB asked him to withhold until a certain date. IMHO, ain't gonna happen, anonymous fan,so quit worrying.
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Originally posted by gater62 View PostLol-when I saw Sam doing the autopsy on the supersoldier, I was like "what the?" Since when did she get her medical degree? Why was Janet not there? This is a pre-Heroes show FCOL!Spoiler:While watching Quarantine, when all the 'Big Brains' were first locked up without commo or data stations, hubs and I hoped they weren't going to act as though, with those people out of it, no one else had enough sense between them to figure things out. It was so wonderfully refreshing to see that there were brilliant and compitent people besides main characters on SGA, and that even when put to it Shepherd was willing to show his brilliance. That was probably the best thing about that episode in general for me - characters shining outside their normal areas. I mean, even Rodney ended up showing more maturity and growth than I ever expected from him.
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Originally posted by hisg1fans View PostWhat is a 'Tim Tam'?
Great thread! I can't load any pictures, but will be 'lurking' and immensely enjoying the view
LOL ! I'm surprised somebody hasn't made a 'mullet' smiley. Believe it or not, but it was 'cool' at the time. I never really liked the style, except on Bono, but a lot of my friends did.Last edited by Gatetrixer; 21 January 2008, 03:05 PM.
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Originally posted by Aurora1101 View PostI have a question regarding Threads, specifically the scene where Jack is in his office with Kerry. Jack throughout the years always seemed to be hesitant about revealing his true feelings when it came to Sam. The scene in Entity comes to mind where General Hammond all but tells Jack he knows that Jack has feelings for Sam other than friendship. And in that specific episode Jack denies feeling nothing other than concern for his colleague, nothing more. In the scene with Kerry there doesn't seem to be any hesitation on Jack's part when Kerry practically comes right out and says she knows Jack cares for Sam, a lot. Jack doesn't come right out and say those actually words, unfortunately, but it's obvious, at least to me, what he is feeling.So my question is this - why was it so easy for him to be so honest with Kerry? Does he feel it's finally time for him to be honest with not only himself but Kerry as well as to what the true nature of his feelings for Sam are? Also if Jacob didn't die, would we still have had that fishing scene at the end of the episode?Originally posted by mara-anni View PostFirtly I think this is a completely different situation for Jack then the one in Entity.
In Entity Jack was still a Colonel and he was talking to Hammond, his CO. There's no way in Netu he would ever have admitted it to Hammond. Hammond himself was being vague.
I know Major Carter is important to you
She's a valuable member of my team sir
Yes she is
Jack won't admit he knows what Hammond means and Hammond allows him to keep it proffessional. But neither one of them is lying...Jack tells the truth, just not the whole truth.
In Threads however, Jack is 'the man'. But more importantly he's talking to Kerry. He doesn't have to be so defensive with her, after all she's already broken up with him and now that she knows he can't lie to her and lead her on. Jack is too nice a guy to do that. Plus the way Kerry words her comments to him really doesn't allow to tell a half truth like he did with Hammond. There's no way for to say something similar to "She's a valuable member of my team" and as I said, it would be leading Kerry on if he denied it. But he doesn't flat out confirm it either. The closest we get to him confirming it is his "and you know what I should do?" Which is still tantamount to saying "Yep, you're right, I do love her but I don't what I can do about it" IMHO
Anyway, Jenn, out Threads expert will answer this Q better
As for whether they still would have gone fishing (which = together) if Jacob hadn't died. I vote a huge honkin' YES!!!
IMHO it's Sam's visit to his house that precipitates the fishing. She goes to his house before she knows about her dad and it is a direct result of Sam doing that and Kerry seeing them together that makes Kerry split up with him and I think Kerry really does help shove him in the right direction too.
Hopefully I'm not repeating what someone else said as I'm a bit behind.
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Originally posted by Oma-1 View PostKerry came across to me as a very intelligent, capable woman, who understood not only her own feelings, but quickly understood Jack too. So I think she knew that Jack was holding part of himself back from the relationship. As soon as she saw Sam & Jack in his backyard and felt the tension between them, she knew exactly why he was holding back.
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Originally posted by Seahen View PostIf it makes you feel better, I wasn't born in the 80's.
EDIT: And I live in Wisconsin, where lately the daily high of 10F seems quite balmy before it drops to the nightly low somewhere below -20. The 6 inches of snow on my car since I parked it at noon is pretty, though
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Originally posted by JenniferJF View PostFairly OT S/J, but OT Stargate, spoilers for Quarantine:Spoiler:While watching Quarantine, when all the 'Big Brains' were first locked up without commo or data stations, hubs and I hoped they weren't going to act as though, with those people out of it, no one else had enough sense between them to figure things out. It was so wonderfully refreshing to see that there were brilliant and compitent people besides main characters on SGA, and that even when put to it Shepherd was willing to show his brilliance. That was probably the best thing about that episode in general for me - characters shining outside their normal areas. I mean, even Rodney ended up showing more maturity and growth than I ever expected from him.Spoiler:were Kirk fodder.
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