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Originally posted by minigeekAny of those have S/J(ack) ship in them? I love a really good Sam whump, but I want some goo as well, at the end of it all. I'm in a pathetic mood tonight {sigh}
My LJ
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I have been absent through much of the Sam/Jack discussion (darn something near and dear to my heart while watching the show) I don't really have anything to add, because well ... so many of you have already given great perspectives from the shippers and the non-shippers. My thoughts have run along a different path. While we all have one thing in common - We all think Sam/AT is a great character/person. We also watch the show for various other reasons. Whether you are a shipper or non-shipper. You ship for Sam/Jack or Sam/another character. Support the move to bring Vala back for season 10 or prefer she is around for a minimal amount. Wish the original team was still there or embracing the new team. While there has been several hiccups this season for many of us we can all come here and discuss in an adult fashion our differences (with minimal ducking...usually ) and enjoy the common denominator ... Sam. Why we think she is a great role model for women, and a great character for the show. We love to see the Scitentist Sam, Soldier Sam, Save the day Sam, Leader Sam, Sam as hero and/or Sam as human with weaknesses and fears like everyone else. This thread proves that varying opinions can enjoy the show if they have one thing in common.
Hic Comitas Regit
To translate: Kindness reigns here That's why I'm a proud memeber of this thread.
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Originally posted by ann_sgcfanI have been absent through much of the Sam/Jack discussion (darn something near and dear to my heart while watching the show) I don't really have anything to add, because well ... so many of you have already given great perspectives from the shippers and the non-shippers. My thoughts have run along a different path. While we all have one thing in common - We all think Sam/AT is a great character/person. We also watch the show for various other reasons. Whether you are a shipper or non-shipper. You ship for Sam/Jack or Sam/another character. Support the move to bring Vala back for season 10 or prefer she is around for a minimal amount. Wish the original team was still there or embracing the new team. While there has been several hiccups this season for many of us we can all come here and discuss in an adult fashion our differences (with minimal ducking...usually ) and enjoy the common denominator ... Sam. Why we think she is a great role model for women, and a great character for the show. We love to see the Scitentist Sam, Soldier Sam, Save the day Sam, Leader Sam, Sam as hero and/or Sam as human with weaknesses and fears like everyone else. This thread proves that varying opinions can enjoy the show if they have one thing in common.
Hic Comitas Regit
To translate: Kindness reigns here That's why I'm a proud memeber of this thread.
My LJ
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Originally posted by ChopinGalAnd what fine thoughts they are! A fair and reasoned critique. And just waiting for the sun to arrive on my doorstep too ... I've run out of umbrellas!
PS I vote for "gracefully clumsy" ... although that is definitely a contradiction in terms!
So before I wander off, some Sam pix from an episode several fans won't name, but that did have some nice Sam caps in it... (*whispers* Chimera...)
Convention Pix Shore Leave ('06 to '09), AT2, AT3, & AT4 ('06, '08, & '09), and Vancouver ('07)
My SG fanfic! ..Click Here.
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Convention Pix Shore Leave ('06 to '09), AT2, AT3, & AT4 ('06, '08, & '09), and Vancouver ('07)
My SG fanfic! ..Click Here.
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Convention Pix Shore Leave ('06 to '09), AT2, AT3, & AT4 ('06, '08, & '09), and Vancouver ('07)
My SG fanfic! ..Click Here.
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Convention Pix Shore Leave ('06 to '09), AT2, AT3, & AT4 ('06, '08, & '09), and Vancouver ('07)
My SG fanfic! ..Click Here.
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Originally posted by ShimmeringStarAhhhh... the sun, the sun, the sun!!! It's back! (And I now need to go out & get in it!
So before I wander off, some Sam pix from an episode several fans won't name, but that did have some nice Sam caps in it... (*whispers* Chimera...)
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Originally posted by ann_sgcfanI have been absent through much of the Sam/Jack discussion (darn something near and dear to my heart while watching the show) I don't really have anything to add, because well ... so many of you have already given great perspectives from the shippers and the non-shippers. My thoughts have run along a different path. While we all have one thing in common - We all think Sam/AT is a great character/person. We also watch the show for various other reasons. Whether you are a shipper or non-shipper. You ship for Sam/Jack or Sam/another character. Support the move to bring Vala back for season 10 or prefer she is around for a minimal amount. Wish the original team was still there or embracing the new team. While there has been several hiccups this season for many of us we can all come here and discuss in an adult fashion our differences (with minimal ducking...usually ) and enjoy the common denominator ... Sam. Why we think she is a great role model for women, and a great character for the show. We love to see the Scientist Sam, Soldier Sam, Save the day Sam, Leader Sam, Sam as hero and/or Sam as human with weaknesses and fears like everyone else. This thread proves that varying opinions can enjoy the show if they have one thing in common.
Hic Comitas Regit
To translate: Kindness reigns here That's why I'm a proud member of this thread.
The Samandan Award for Elocution goes to our very own ann_sgcfan! Well said, indeed!
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Originally posted by ChopinGalThe Royal Court of Samanda
"it is our honor to serve"
Madam President, Major Sam
Madam Vice-President/Couples Counselor, Major Sal
Keeper of the Flame, Astrogeologist
Accountant/Bean Counter and Editor of Oh Yea What Say Times , Coley
Court Jester and Bard, Chopin Gal
Census Taker, Skydiver
Royal Sage/Wise Elder, Nearly Circular
Head of Security, Agent Dark
Royal Pages, deepspace and Charlie
Royal Videographer and Pain in the Mikta, UberSG-1 Fan
Royal Terminator and Alternate Pain in the Mikta, minigeek
Royal Graphics Designer and Nanny, Forever Sg1
Assistant Graphics Designer, SamFan 31
First Assistant Head of Security, Carterslave
Second Assistant Head of Security/Bike Patrol, 1speed4Sam
Personal Bodyguard, Royal Guard/Security, Strix varia
Royal Ambassador-at-Large, SunKrux
Personal Shopper, ChevronSeven
Royal Technician, Myrth
Royal Administrative Assistant, Qasim
Royal Chauffeur/Stunt Person, tsaxlady
Royal Researcher and Reporter, sg-1 fanintn
Senior Scribe, Tok'ra Hostess
Royal Housekeeper, Head of Domestic Services, tara3583
Royal Baker/Chef, Atteria
Royal Gardener, gatebee
Royal Pet Groomer/Dog Walker, jerin
Royal Media Analyst/Documentarian, the dancer of spaz
Royal Minister Without Portfolio, jckfan55
Royal Pharmacist/Apothecary, Lys
Royal Physician/Therapist, Lida
Royal Chief Counsel, Dani76
Lurkers Extraordinaires, all remaining citizens of Samanda
Hear Ye Hear Ye Hear Ye
Be it known that SunKrux as been appointed Ambassador-at-Large. May she continue to establish fair and cordial diplomatic relations with other kingdoms as she represents the kind citizens of Samanda.
JesterLast edited by ChopinGal; 15 October 2005, 09:31 AM.
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Originally posted by LysExactly my thoughts, except that I don't define myself as an anti-shipper but a non-shipper.
jckfan55, I'm going to follow you and duck (it's an epidemic ).
majorsal, I don't want to break your heart so be careful if you want to read my post.
In my opinion, Divide and Conquer killed the wonderful friendly/flirty interaction Jack and Sam had in the first seasons. I really miss this dynamic between them. It was fun, it was refreshing and we could all enjoy it. But then became the ANGST I'm not against a little angst thrown into the story, but angsty relationship lasting for four years before they decided to do some resolve around the issue was unbelievable for me.
After Divide and Conquer all interactions between Sam and Jack were branded with the "OMG Jack and Sam have feelings for each other but they can't act because of the darn regulations ! OMG !" factor. They decided to go this road, fine. I don't care whether Sam is involved with Jack or another guy, but I do care that she's happy and has a fulfilling life. So it hurt because they clearly depicted Sam as not being happy with a part of her life when we couldn't see a lot from Jack because you know, he's so repressed when it comes to showing emotions. If Jack had been a little more open about his feelings, maybe we wouldn't have so much Sam haters blaming her of stalking. But I digress.
I can live with ship on the show, it's not my main interest, but if it's well done why not ? One of the problems I have with this whole thing is that we clearly saw Sam dealing with her feelings, take decisions, pondering what her life was going to be, but we didn't see so much from Jack. But you know, he's a tough guy and guys don't deal with romance and love, only girls do that. I agree that this story arc was important in Sam development, but this particular story arc wasn't just about Sam, it was also about Jack. I would have loved to have an episode where it's Jack who's dealing with the situation and not Sam. It's just a matter of balance. For example, we had Chimera to introduce Pete, why didn't we get an episode to introduce Kerry ? I have yet to understand how Jack gets from confessing that he'd like two Carters in Gemini to spending the weekend in his cabin with Kerry.
That's the problem with the writers. They want to do subtle so the fans can take what they like best, but in this case, they only succeded in frustrating the fans. The shippers are longing for some action and the non shippers are cringing because of the awkward moments. They're not showing a lot of respect for their audience if they think we're not able to act like adults and get past a disappointment because they favour one of the possibilities. We all have to make choices in life, avoiding them is what will kill the show.
So, I agree with what Über said in a previous post. They have to show or tell us something specific. Sam's "Not exactly" in Ex Deus Machina is not enough because we can understand what we want with that. It's not specific enough. Fans are going to battle and be unhappy until they decide to act.
Sorry for the long post. I'd guess that if I had only one thing to tell TPTB it would be : act as adults and consider the fans as adults and not five year olds. If only it could free us of the childish fans of the Dark Place of Negativity, I'd be more than happy.
I like that you and others here, even though the J/S ship was not your thing, are mature enough to now consider that option as the final resolution from what seemed to occur at end of S8.
What we all want, shipper or non-shipper alike, is the further development of Sam Carter as a well-rounded, three-dimensional personality who has made peace with some issues of the heart and is now ready to resume command. She should be bringing a new feeling of confidence and self-esteem to her job, now that she's assured of her love interest.
The writers are going to write themselves out of my heart if they continue with this mess: Sam in love with Jack? "Not exactly" Sam in command? "Not exactly" Cowards!Last edited by ChopinGal; 15 October 2005, 09:36 AM.
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Originally posted by tara3583How can people not like Sam, just look at that smile, right from her soul!
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