Original Starship Design Thread

[freyr's mother]

okay, I finally got around to scanning the drawing. If anyone remembers the F/X-386 (new designation there)

Spoiler:

You have the first one labeled wrong. Thats an F-302.

[Col. Matarrese]

You have the first one labeled wrong. Thats an F-302.

har-de-har-har
yeah, I know it looks similar, but it's the specs that are important on that one. These weren't actually made for this thread, but for another project I'm working on. I tend to like forward-swept wing designs in general, hence the similarity in design to the 302. Please don't judge before you read specs as it hurts the rather fragile feelings of the dedigner

[boberth2o]

firstly, well done the actualy ship is pretty gd. the specs however are not, 1 and 3 are basicly a bit crzy, especially 3. The Asgard have already said they will not give us offensive miltary hardware so you could change asgard turrets to either heavy rail guns or Hatak grade retro engineered energy weapons.
As for the human ZPM, we will never do it, just use the standard marks of naquadah, the Goauld ruled the galaxy with Naquadah generators for 5000 years, we dont need ZPM's. just because we know about them doesnt mean we actually need them, in all likelyhood trying to fit a ZPM on to our ships full time would end up blowing the circuits, or worse overloading everything...

I do like the concept though the image is gd, but come up with better spec's...

Thanks, well as for that whole human zpm thing I was just keeping my hopes up if you know what I mean, with the asgard energy turrets as well.

Here are the new specs:
Name:
DSD-307 standing for Deep Space Destroyer there isnt any cool name yet
Size:
the size of the ship is roughly 200 meters long and 80 meters wide at the front and 100 meters at the back. the height is about 30 meters and she has 8 decks.

Properties:
She has a reinfoced Trinium Hull of half meter thickness

Weapons:
The DSD-307 is equiped with fifteen heavy railgun enplacments, 20 Phalanx CIWS enplacements which were retro-fitted for space battles.
32 vertical launch missle bays that have normal payloads along with an optinal
Mark III and Mark V Naqahdah enhanced nuclear warheads that are equivant to muti-mega ton explosions. Last two energy turrets that were salvaged from old ha'taks and modified to be more powerful.

Sheilds:
DSD-307 is equiped with advanced asgard shields that rival that of the Daedalus class ships.

Power Source:
The power source the DSD class ships is three Mark III generators.

Movin' Round:
This ship has two side mounted asgard hyperdrive engines and two twin sets of sublight engines.

Other:
-asgard beaming technology
-deep space radar/sensors

*note that there are no fighter, the bays on the left and on the right of the ship are the engines

[An-Alteran]

http://www.stargatecaps.com/sga/s3/301/nml0322.jpg
http://www.stargatecaps.com/sga/s3/301/nml0328.jpg
http://www.stargatecaps.com/sga/s3/301/nml0330.jpg
http://www.stargatecaps.com/sga/s3/301/nml0474.jpg
http://www.stargatecaps.com/sga/s3/301/nml0440.jpg- love that image

Those images show a good comparison between the deadalus and aurora class, and the aurora looks 4 or 5 time the size of the deadalus..

So its about a kilometer long... wow.

Those are actually not good comparisons. The only one with the Daedalus and Orion, has the Orion at much closer to the cammera, and the Daedalus being pretty far.

The only way to scale it I think would be against the drones.
And from those I would say it is a bit more than 1 kilometer long.
That would make it about a little less than 1/3rd the length of Atlantis.

I am starting work on a large exposition of Wraith ships.
Stay tuned.
All my ships should be done within two weaks, school allowing.
My backstory and ship type outlines should be done tonight or tomarrow.
Hopefully one or two ships will also be finished.

[jds1982]

Thanks, well as for that whole human zpm thing I was just keeping my hopes up if you know what I mean, with the asgard energy turrets as well.

Here are the new specs:
Name:
DSD-307 standing for Deep Space Destroyer there isnt any cool name yet
Size:
the size of the ship is roughly 200 meters long and 80 meters wide at the front and 100 meters at the back. the height is about 30 meters and she has 8 decks.

Properties:
She has a reinfoced Trinium Hull of half meter thickness

Weapons:
The DSD-307 is equiped with fifteen heavy railgun enplacments, 20 Phalanx CIWS enplacements which were retro-fitted for space battles.
32 vertical launch missle bays that have normal payloads along with an optinal
Mark III and Mark V Naqahdah enhanced nuclear warheads that are equivant to muti-mega ton explosions. Last two energy turrets that were salvaged from old ha'taks and modified to be more powerful.

Sheilds:
DSD-307 is equiped with advanced asgard shields that rival that of the Daedalus class ships.

Power Source:
The power source the DSD class ships is three Mark III generators.

Movin' Round:
This ship has two side mounted asgard hyperdrive engines and two twin sets of sublight engines.

Other:
-asgard beaming technology
-deep space radar/sensors

*note that there are no fighter, the bays on the left and on the right of the ship are the engines

It would help to know how big your missile silos are. Judging from your estimates of ship size they appear to be about 10 meters by 10 meters, which seems overly large. You may be able to fit more missiles on your ship.

[An-Alteran]

Here is my outline of the Wraith war in detail (it includes at the end a part of the tie in to my story with the Ancient ships and why the Wraith were in the story):

Spoiler:

The Wraith War and the ships therein:
When the great plague hit millions of years before in the Milky Way Galaxy, most unaffected Ancients went into stasis for millions of years while the remaining unaffected scientists desperately tried to cure the disease. After a long while, All the Ancients were revived and they all spent nearly a million years constantly fighting the virus, which brought them to the brink of extinction on many occasions. Finally, five million years ago, the Ancients had lost the battle. They created a great device to restore much of the life in the galaxy that had been affected by the virus. The uninfected Ancients fled the Galaxy while the last infected Ancients allowed themselves to be wiped out by the device.
Nine Hundred and Twenty Thousand years ago, the Ancients had long established their reign in the Pegasus Galaxy. Being rather slow to progress technologically, culturally, and in many other areas, their race had remained mostly the same for literally millions of years.
They had dedicated themselves to a single goal: Ascension. The theory went that it was possible to cause the physical body to be artificially formed into energy and retain consciousness. This was discovered when the Ancients learned of a creature that existed as pure energy, and acted like an animal.
Unfortunately, they inadvertently killed the creature in their tests by accidentally sending an energy wave that cancelled the creature out. After millions of years of study, they were coming closer and closer to duplicating this form of life.
Few other experiments were being done, until some persons started becoming tired of this constant focus on Ascension. The once great civilization had become so rapped up in its philosophy that technological development and innovation had almost completely ground to a halt. Some scientists who were researching a strange bug that seemed to feed on the cellular structures that caused aging in creatures. The bugs began feeding on the human populace some time earlier, and the Ancients decided to study this process.
They found a human who had a bug attached to him and subjected both to experiments, partly to learn how to remove the bug and save the man’s life, and also to learn how the bug accomplished this.
Their experiments worked and they were able to separate the two with an intense form of radiation.
The bugs had an interesting cellular and shell structure that the Ancients found very intriguing. The bugs shell “armour” was very resilient, and capable of terrible blows without breaking, shattering, or piercing. This shell also rapidly repaired itself when damaged. The bug was very tough and capable of restoring a limb within days of losing it. A compound set of injuries would render this incapable of occurring. So if a bug was cut in half, it would die. Or if it lost a large section of itself, it would die. The shell and the internal structure of the bugs were both very resilient but operated almost as separate organisms, growing at different rates and in different ways. In fact the shell could live apart from the rest of the bug, but would die do to a lack of nutrients.
The Ancient scientists and engineers had been experimenting with the shell greatly. They learned that the internal aspects of the shell could survive in space easily. They started designing a way of mass-producing the shell materials with living aspects to allow for self-repair.
The Ancient’s experiment on the human and bug had an unaccepted result, what they did not realize was that the radiation had reacted with a chemical the bug process and had caused it to become a strange form of cancerous viral infection, which started transforming the human into a strange blending of the bug and human.
The bug had also been affected. Within several years the majority of bugs now caused humans they bite to turn into the blends. These blended human/bugs would have the intelligence of the human, pigmentation, senses, some of the instincts, and the amazing regenerative capabilities of the bug, as well as the strange telepathic capabilities of the bug. Since the chemical was a product of the bug and not the shell, the blends did not have true shells, but their physical structure was strengthened by some of the shell cellular structure over vital areas, especially bones.
The Ancients called them pesium irei unius, or “destroyed ones” because of the nature of their existence. The destroyed ones grew in number without control. The Ancients at the science post reported often and attempted to create a counter agent to the infections virus.
Eventually no human was left on the planet. And tens of thousands of the destroyed ones were left without food. The Ancients began intense experimentation on the destroyed ones, learning they were incapable of feeding on anything not living and humanoid because they are mostly human, non near-human cells cannot provide nutrients because the cells are incompatible.
The destroyed ones after several days without food began to die… they as a single group mind decided their was one course of action to take: They must storm the Ancient base, and eat them.
After a few hours of fighting, the destroyed ones had overwhelmed their captors and the guards of the lightly defended outpost.
They learned much from the scientists before consuming them.
The more intelligent ones learned from the computers a great deal, and learned of the experimentation on the shell structure. The destroyed ones learned that with the right stimulation and nutrients the shells would allow for extremely rapid construction of ships. With the right manipulation, 90% of a ship could build itself. The Ancients had already done most of the research, and the destroyed ones simply began applying it.
The destroyed ones learned how to use the Stargate and started attacking human worlds as well as Ancient worlds. Within a few days they had an abundance of food and masses of recourses at their disposal. Rapidly the human worlds began referring to them as the linguistic equivalent of “the Wraith”. “The Wraith” captured several large human production facilities and started building relatively conventional ships that had non-living shells covering and intertwined with the ships. They rapidly began building a fleet.
The Ancients, never wanting to kill, decided not to intervene and allow the humans to deal with the Wraith.
They viewed the loss of several hundred Lanteans at the science post as tragic, but acceptable and not worth wiping out a new race of creatures. The Wraith grew to millions in number over a very short period of time. Certain growth hormones are used to force most Wraiths to grow to adulthood in mere weeks. These generally wind up being relatively unintelligent and poorly educated with limited telepathic powers. They are used as mass ground troops. Most Wraiths grown rather quickly anyway, but they take years to mature. These become the leaders, commanders, scientists, and engineers in the civilization. After a few dozen human planets were under their control, with the populace as a form of heard that they used as food, the Wraith stopped invading and started setting up an infrastructure. Deep in their minds they viewed the Ancients with twisted hate because of leaving them and their former human existence to fight on their own. The Wraith are not conscious of this, but it is there. So this inspired them to win at all costs.
The Wraith laid dormant for centuries on their worlds… waiting.
Meanwhile, the Lanteans were mostly pleased with themselves and content to let the Wraith sit there and rot. Or so they expected. The Wraith in total only captured three of their worlds. The initial research post. another post, and finally a manufacturing plant. A total of 3,215 Lanteans were killed. The Lanteans never retaliated.
Many Lanteans, especially the military wanted revenge. It never was authorized.
The Lantean scientists, engineers, and philosophers who made up the vast majority of the civilization felt that doing so would bring up natural tendencies of violence which needed to be shed to allow for Ascension. They were content in “forgiving the Wraith” and moving onto their research.
Hundreds of thousands of years passed. The Wraith had built a massive fleet that they hid across their industrialized worlds.
15,000 years ago the Lantean Defense Force who had wanted to eradicate the Wraith and free the humans were gaining support in the council. The Defense Force, aware that the Wraith had been building production facilities and experimenting with Lantean inspired energy systems and weapons based on the limited examples they had found (Lantean policy dictated that all equipment would be destroyed in invasion occurred. Most weapons and the like at the Lantean worlds was damaged or destroyed leaving the Wraith with little to build upon).
The council determined that no such action would take place and ordered the Defense Force to disarm their ships and store all drones and other weapons off the fleet. The Defense Force was outraged and rebelled. Both sides wanted a peaceful resolution, but that didn’t occur. The Lanteans and the Defense Force exchanged fire among some of the ships. The Defense Force lost a few ships, and several loyalist ships were destroyed.
The Defense Force and many likeminded scientists, and engineers left Pegasus for good.
This caused Pegasus to be mostly unguarded. The Defense Force took most of the ships, and almost all of the most powerful ones. Though, like they had been, the Lanteans were unconcerned. Their weapons and shields were powerful, they never expected to have difficulty in any combat situation. The majority of their remaining fleet, small to begin with, was made up of transports, science ships, scouts, and very old warships.
After a few more thousand years the Wraith decided they were ready. Entire fleets had been hidden as mere agricultural growths on planets thought absent of intelligent life.
Many millions were kept in hibernation, and when they awoke for battle, they consumed all remaining humans on their few worlds. The Wraith launched an all out invasion against human and Lantean worlds.
They captured dozens of worlds over only a few weeks.
Before they could react, half the Galaxy was already in Wraith hands.
Many more massive human factories and several Lantean ones fell into Wraith hands. These were all converted to constructing the Wraiths biological ships.
The true war ensued. The Wraith ships were easily destroyed by Lantean weaponry, and the Lantean shields gave their ships massive staying power. Large land facilities were defended with ZPM powered shields. Many Lantean Gates in facilities had been quickly equipped with shields to prevent assault after the first invasion hundreds of thousands of years earlier. This prevented the loss of most Lantean planets to Gate assault.
The Wraith lost nearly every ship-to-ship engagement, and lost hundreds of ships every time they tried to take a Lantean world. Yet still, the Wraith pushed on.

[An-Alteran]

(I am using spoilers to save visual space)
Here is the rest of it:

Spoiler:

Then the Lanteans offered peace. They talked with the Wraith over hologram, and sent a delegation of their most powerful warships. These were mainly the newer ones the Defense Force had not left with. Several Rectoer (Master) Class ships came along with them. The Wraith devised a plan. They would send over a delegation one a ship filled with a powerful bomb. They met the Lanteans on the outskirts of the Pegasus Galaxy. Much to the Wraith’s delight, the Lanteans’ ships had their shields lowered as a sign of good faith. The Wraith delegates were to meat the Lanteans on, ironically, the Lantean flagship Pruedeantiea (Wisdom). The Wraith delegates, unarmed warriors, came aboard greeted by Lantean security who were to escort the Wraith delegates to the conference room… the Lanteans were confused. Suddenly the hanger flew apart in violent explosion. The bomb tore through the ship, tearing apart its systems. The ship lay disabled as hundreds of Wraith escort ships opened fire on the unshielded Lantean Warships. Their shields activated and they started returning fire with their pulse cannons and Drones. Explosions filled the sky. Thousands of Wraith ships were on their way already, and after several minutes of fighting, arrived. They had been hiding behind a black hole that prevented any sensor scans from detecting anything specific. The Lanteans fought valiantly. Thousands of drones filled the sky, tearing apart Wraith ships by the dozens.
In the end only one Lantean warship escaped, a Rectoer Class ship, after the delegates beamed aboard, and a few smaller ships that were there including several scout ships and science ships modified to carry more drones were destroyed, but a few escaped with the Warship. The rest of the fleet fought on and were destroyed. The Wraith lost thousands of ships in the fight, nearly all the ships they sent, but they won.
The Wraith launched every remaining ship they had directly at the Lanteans.
Few Lantean ships remained, and the Wraith were able to bash threw the defenses of many human and Lantean worlds. Eventually only a hand full of ships protected Atlantis and a handful of the most well defended worlds.
The Wraith were winning. They moved in on Atlantis. The system that Atlantis was in was heavily defended. Dozens and dozens of satellites were spread around the worlds in the system. The Wraith lost hundreds of ships to the satellites. And thousands more fell to the Ancient Drone systems across the Atlantis planet. The satellites one by one were destroyed. Finally the Lanteans submerged Atlantis under thousands of feet of water. The Wraith weapons were unable to effectively penetrate the water, but dispersed into the water. The Wraith left a fleet there which shot down many ships returning to Atlantis. The Wraith campaign was moving more slowly now. Hundreds of ships were lost in every encounter.
The Wraith sent a fleet to a world, after destroying the ships there and the satellites, communications was lost and they were never heard from again.
The Wraith had conquered almost every system in the galaxy.
There fleet fluctuated in numbers by the thousands.
The fleet was being spread out, chasing after the Lantean ships in the galaxy.
And then, suddenly, a large fleet of the remaining Lantean warships attacked the most well defended Wraith factory world and destroyed all the ships there and decimated the world. The retaliation campaign succeeded in the destruction of almost every Wraith factory world. The remaining worlds were all severely damaged. The Lantean fleet was finally broken apart. The few ships that remained fled in all directions. One ship apparently received information that would show a fundamental weakness in Wraith tech that would win the war. The Wraith learned of this and sent a fleet after the ship.
She was found repairing her hyperdrive, which was damaged after the attack on one of the last Wraith worlds, and was low on power and drones. She put up a valiant struggle, destroying several ships before being shot to pieces. In a last ditch effort, they opened a hyperspace window in a Wraith cruiser and rammed the ship. The Lantean ship was presumed destroyed, as no trace of it was found.
The Wraith learned that only Atlantis remained and all Lanteans were being recalled to travel through the Gate to an unknown destination. The Wraith sent much of their fleet to Atlantis to blockade the city. Few ships got through, but the Wraith lost hundreds of ships in the last months of the war. At one point, a strange energy was detected and a Lantean Gate Transport appeared out of nowhere. It was quickly shot down and presumed destroyed, then after a few days… silence. No life forms were detected anymore from Atlantis. The Wraith left ships for several hundred years… no life was detected again. The Human populace was devastated in the Galaxy. Few humans survived, none remained with any form of infrastructure.

The Wraith were left with no way of truly rebuilding their once great manufacturing potential. Many Wraith wanted to leave the Galaxy and search for food, a few wanted to remain and cull the worlds left, though few and few humans were left on them.
The Wraith were divided. And so they decided that those who wanted to leave would do so and separate from the main colony. The rest became fragmented between rival Queens after the main Queen was killed in an explosion assumed to be an accident.
They remained with few Hive ships, and only a few times more cruisers.
The rest of the fleet left in search of food…

Here is my Wraith ship types chart:

Spoiler:

Hive ships:
Designation for the large primary carrier/troop/command ships.
These ships are by definition flying war cities. They are several kilometers long, capable of carrying many thousands of fighter sized craft and many more thousands of troops and other personnel, as well as hundreds of culled humans and Lanteans.
4 designs of this type existed during the Wraith war including the design we have encountered.

Wraith Warships:
These ships have no fighter craft; but are instead armed to the teeth. They are the primary combat ships in the Wraith fleet. They are what won the war.
3 designs of this type of ship were produced during the Wraith war. None of these remain in the Pegasus Galaxy.

Wraith Escort/Culling Cruisers:
These ships have no fighter craft. They are designed to cull planets inhabitants en mass.
They are usually well armored, especially on the underside; they are also decently armed.
2 designs of this type existed during the Wraith war including the design we have encountered which often escorts Hives.

Wraith Scout Warships:
These are smaller than cruisers, but almost as heavily armed.
They are effective in small engagements and are very fast and maneuverable.
1 design of this type existed during the Wraith war.
None of them are known to remain in the Pegasus Galaxy.

Wraith Culling Fighter/Transports:
These are small, usually one manned craft designed to capture several dozen humans or Lanteans in the ships transporter buffer. They are lightly armed, but have virtually no armour. They are very fast and maneuverable craft.
3 designs of this type existed during the Wraith war. Including the “Darts” we have encountered.

Wraith Fighter/Bombers:
These craft are heavily armed and well armored for their size. They have no culling beams. They are fast, maneuverable, and tough. These are designed to take down resistance on the ground, in the air, and in space.
2 designs of this type are known to have existed during the Wraith war.
None of these are known to remain in the Pegasus Galaxy.

Wraith Scout/Transports:
These ships are the smallest type of hyperspace capable Wraith craft. They carry about a dozen people and are more efficient forms of planet to surface transport of groups of people. They are lightly armed.
2 designs of this type existed during the Wraith war. Including the design we have encountered.

Wraith Transports:
These ships are usually considerably larger than Cruisers, but far smaller than Hives and lightly armed. They have weak hulls. They are meant to carry many thousands of humans and Lanteans in storage to supply the Wraith on non-culling ships with food.
5 designs of this type existed during the Wraith war.

Wraith Ship Tenders:
These are usually large ships that are designed to tend, repair, and heal Wraith ships damaged in combat (usually) or by other things.
They carry growing factories to graft onto the hull of damaged ships. Technical construction facilities for the non-organic parts like hyperdrives and weapons. They often have the ability to construct small craft.
6 designs of this type existed during the war.

[An-Alteran]

Here is the first batch of my Wraith ships:

Spoiler:

Hives:

Name:
Unknown.
First Hive ship design used by the Wraith in the Wraith war.
This is also the first Hive ship encountered by the Lanteans.

Role:
The ship is design as the Primary Fighter/Bomber,
Culling-Fighter/Transport carrier,
Primary troop carrier.
Primary fleet command ship.
Tertiary weapons platform.
Can act as the Queen command ship.

Size:
4.04 kilometers long (varying slightly depending on ship)
1260 meters wide (varying slightly depending on ship)
180 meters wide from wall to wall in the widest hole (varying slightly depending on ship)
440 meters in height (varying slightly depending on ship)

Physical Structure:
The ship in its original form was designed as a single hull separated at multiple points. The ship had 5 holes in the center of the ship that were all about the same size, each with an oval shape. The ship came to twin points. And the ship had an arrangement of several tails that came off the rear- three equally spaced apart on the top, one to the lower port, and one to the lower starboard.

Propulsion:
8 thrust producing engines.
1 primitive hyperspace engine based on a crude application of hyperspace technology learned from several of the advanced human civilizations. This is capable of slow interstellar travel. The ships organic nature forces a “cool down” period after a long while in hyperspace. This “cool down” period is rather random in when it is needed.

Power Source:
Triple reactors based on human innovations, paired with a simple understanding of certain power sources in the fragmented Ancient technical history databanks captured long ago. These are sufficient to power the hyperdrive fully, or half the weapons at any one time.

Weaponry:
Main Weaponry:
6 forward firing heavy energy cannons.
6 port, 6 starboard heavy energy cannons.
7 dorsal, and 7 ventral heavy energy cannons.
4 rear heavy energy cannons.
Secondary Weaponry:
40 forward firing medium energy cannons.
60 Port, 60 Starboard medium energy cannons.
20 dorsal, and 20 ventral medium energy cannons.
20 rear medium energy cannons.

Defenses:
Heavy bio-armour capable of significant self-repair covers the hull. If more than 30% of the hull is lost, the ship will die.

Craft:
2,800 +/- Culling Fighter/Transports are on the ship.
1000 +/- Fighter/Bombers are on the ship.
40 +/- Scout/Transports are on the ship.

Other:
The ship is equipped with one inter ship transporter beam system. The ship must be within 50 meters of the other ship for the transporter to work.
These only works when both ships have one and both ships have it activated. The two ships beams connect and create a sort of “Particle Bridge” between the two ships that allow the transfer of personnel.

History and details:
This Hive ship was designed some 100,000 years before the Wraith war. Several thousand were built.
They were designed to allow mass movement of Wraith to cull new worlds and to command fleets against the Lanteans.
These ships were designed to blend into the environment. So they have a rather pitted and uneven hull form do to being in the ground for centuries. Each ship has different shapes and forms do to growth over the many years it has been alive. The ship is less open in the center than the Hives we have encountered; it has several structures that go between the two sections of the hull making several small separations. The Separations are uneven and vary in size and shape between ships.



Name:
Unknown.
Second Hive ship design used by the Wraith in the Wraith war.

Role:
The ship is design as the Primary Fighter/Bomber,
Culling-Fighter/Transport carrier,
Primary troop carrier.
Primary fleet command ship.
Secondary weapons platform and
often acts as a Queen’s command ship.

Size:
4.4 kilometers long (varying slightly depending on ship)
1560 meters wide (varying slightly depending on ship)
240 at the widest point between the Catamaran hulls is
510 meters in height (varying slightly depending on ship)

Physical Structure:
The ship was designed as a large semi-catamaran style hull with two main sections connected by thick (height wise) sections at two points across the hull. Each of these is 150 meters long, and 200 meters tall. A third point between the two connections is 300 meters long and 220 meters tall, this houses the primary Wraith control center. The two main sections come to a single point 300 meters long where a large energy cannon is mounted. The catamaran style is to allow all the Darts to launch from between the hulls.
The rear has the two sections, each with five thrust generators. Three “tails” come off the end of each section. 1 on the outer side of each section, 1 on top of each section, one on the bottom of each section.

Propulsion:
10 thrust producing engines of a slightly smaller design than on its predecessor.
1 primitive hyperspace engine based on a crude application of hyperspace technology learned from several of the advanced human civilizations. This is capable of slow interstellar travel. The ships organic nature forces a “cool down” period after a long while in hyperspace. This “cool down” period is rather random in when it is needed.

Power Source:
Quadruple reactors of the same design as on the pervious hive are on the ship. Usually only two are operative. But in combat three of them power the weapons and one powers the rest of the ship. Unlike on its predecessor, the ship can power all its weapons at once.

Weaponry:
Main Weaponry:
1 very heavy main cannon, prone to overloading. Able of firing again every 5 seconds.
9 forward firing heavy energy cannons.
11 port, 11 starboard heavy energy cannons.
9 dorsal, and 9 ventral heavy energy cannons.
6 rear heavy energy cannons.
Secondary Weaponry:
70 forward firing medium energy cannons.
70 dorsal, and 70 ventral medium energy cannons.
60 Port, 60 Starboard medium energy cannons.
30 rear medium energy cannons.

Defenses:
Heavy bio-armour capable of significant self-repair covers the hull.
If more than 35% of the hull is lost, or the hull is shredded across the ship, the ship will die.

Craft:
2,500 +/- Culling-Fighter/Transports are on the ship.
1,600 +/- Fighter/Bombers are on the ship.
25 Scout/Transports are on the ship.

Other:
The ship is equipped with two inter ship transporter beam system which make it easier for the ship to move between Wraith ships. Having two of them allows the ship to transfer troops on either side of the ship. The ship must be within 50 meters of the other ship for the transporters to work.

History and details:
Several hundred of these ships were produced in the war. The ship began production 15 years into the war. They are physically larger than their predecessor, and contain over 10% more Darts of the Fighter/Bomber type, but 300 +/- less Darts of the Culling-Fighter/Transport type. This ship was designed and constructed soon after the war started in response to the loss of many of the older models. These were harder to destroy than the older models because of their sheer size and greater mass and volume. They are far more heavily armed and are second only to the Wraith Warships in firepower in the fleet. Its predecessor was actually slightly weaker than it’s cruiser escort because it couldn’t power all its weapons at once, at least if the commander wanted its ship to be able to move. This ship was designed to be able to do that from the beginning.

[An-Alteran]

Here are my last two of the four ships I am posting tonight:

Spoiler:

Name:
Unknown.
Third Hive ship design used by the Wraith in the Wraith war.

Role:
The ship is design as the Primary Fighter/Bomber,
Culling-Fighter/Transport carrier,
Primary troop carrier.
Secondary weapons platform.
Primary fleet command ship, and designed to each act as a Queen’s ship.

Size:
6.12 kilometers long (varying slightly depending on ship)
1.63 kilometers wide (varying slightly depending on ship)
1.13 kilometers in height (varying slightly depending on ship)
The wing like structure adds another 100 meters to the ship’s height, going 50 meters over the main hull and 50 meters bellow.

Physical Structure:
Harkening back to the first Hive in the Wraith war, the ship comes to twin points.
The ship has two holes through the center. These are before and after a somewhat “airplane wing” like structure in the center. The engines are arranged in three sets of three. Three in the upper center of the ship, and then one set of three curved and tilted on the lower rear port side and another set on the lower rear starboard side. The hull extends slightly past them creating a slight protrusion, but not a long wing like on the previous designs.

Propulsion:
9 thrust producing engines.
1 primitive hyperspace engine based on a crude application of hyperspace technology learned from several of the advanced human civilizations. This is capable of slow interstellar travel. Like all Wraith ships, the ship’s organic nature forces a “cool down” period after a long while in hyperspace. This “cool down” period is fixed at certain intervals.

Power Source:
Six separate reactors of a similar type as on previous Hives power the ship. They are each smaller than on previous Hives, but produce far more power overall. They are sufficient to power the ship fully at all times.

Weaponry:
Main Weaponry:
14 forward firing heavy energy cannons.
14 port, 14 starboard heavy energy cannons.
16 dorsal, and 16 ventral heavy energy cannons.
10 rear heavy energy cannons.
Secondary Weaponry:
80 forward firing medium energy cannons.
70 Port, 70 Starboard medium energy cannons.
75 dorsal, and 75 ventral medium energy cannons.
50 rear medium energy cannons.

Defenses:
Heavy bio-armour capable of significant self-repair covers the hull. If more than 40% of the hull is lost, or the ship’s hull is damaged across the entire ship, the ship will die.

Craft:
3,200 +/- Culling Fighter/Transports are on the ship.
2,400 +/- Fighter/Bombers are on the ship.
50 +/- Scout/Transports are on the ship.

Other:
The ship is not equipped with an inter-ship transporter beam, because the Ancients learned how to cause a feedback pulse that causes the ships power systems to overload, and the transporter projectors to explode, as well as cause many internal explosions.

History and details:
The ship was designed as a replacement of the previous Hive design 21 years into the war.
The previous design had several design breaking flaws (though they did not prevent the ship from being very effective during the war:
1) The catamaran hull’s connecting points proved wonderful targets for drones, which in later encounters would simply cut the ship in half.
2) The transporters were easily caused to create a feedback pulse that would overload half the ships power grid, destroy the projectors and the entire system, and cause many internal explosions. This was learned after 4 Hives engaged in troop transfer were all crippled by an Ancient Science vessel that was testing the new energy pulse generator, which causes the reaction.
3) The ship’s main cannon, while effective, was easily destroyed by a few drones. This was learned in one of the first engagements involving these ships against the Lanteans, where a single Lantean warship almost immediately disabled the 3 Hive ships’ main cannons in a battlegroup of Wraith combat ships. This prevented the ships from being effective in the fight that did end in the destruction of the Hive ships, and most of the battlegroup. The Lantean warship was destroyed also after many minutes of fighting with the Wraith Warships.
This ship is designed to correct these flaws. The ship has not been equipped with the transporters, as they would now be too dangerous to use. The ship has a mostly solid center, with only two holes through the ship. The ship has a thick “wing” protrusion on the center, through the center. The ship is designed solely with more standard weapons, and is heavily armed. The ship is second only in the Wraith fleet in raw firepower to the newest of Wraith Warships at the time.
The ship is considerably larger than its predecessor, and actually packs a much harder punch.

Name:
This is the Hive ships that we have encountered now.
Fourth Hive ship design used by the Wraith in the Wraith war.
It was a rather late development. They were designed about 18 years before the end of the Wraith war.
Thousands were constructed.
Though it was rather smaller and weaker than its predecessor, it was far simpler to construct. Drastically increasing how quickly they could be built. This allowed the ship to be used far more widely, providing a far larger contingent of Darts and troops to combat.
Many energy cannons of the same type covered the hull. Thousands of Culling-Fighter/Transport Darts were stored inside.
Many more thousands of Wraith crewed the ships and acted as troops.
This ship was designed as the first true ship-wide innovation in Wraith technology.
Biological parts were added to the weapons to allow some level of self-repair.
In doing this, the Wraith further designed all their energy cannons on their ship to be of the same strength. This allows a uniform power distribution system. Also it allows a rather simple genetic programming to cause the ship to heal the organic parts if they are damaged.

[boberth2o]

It would help to know how big your missile silos are. Judging from your estimates of ship size they appear to be about 10 meters by 10 meters, which seems overly large. You may be able to fit more missiles on your ship.

yeah I guess your right, here is the new drawing with more silos, it has 128 now, and i gave the lines more definition:

[jds1982]

How the frack do you build a 3,050 kilometer hive ship!!?? Your first two are less than half the size of what a hive is generally considered to be, and then your third is something like 30 times the size of the largest vessel ever shown on SG!!! Dude I hope that was a typo.

[.jolinar.]

This is my fleet to date. I have an Escort type ship and a new Fighter comming too.


BC-401

~Type: Midsize Hyperspace capable Battlecruiser
~Technology Base: Tau'ri/Asgard/Goa'uld
~Length: 486 metres
~Width: 121 metres
~Height: 72 metres
~Goa'uld Inertial Dampeners
~Decks: 9
~Mass: 3.65 million metric tones
~Powerplant: Relative Singularity Generator
~Propulsion: Asgard Hyperdrive
Two Trans-C Twin Drives
Two +C Main drives
Anti-gravity wave generators
~Hangar Capacity: 28 F-402's & 2 F-403's

~Weapons: Rail Guns x8
Rail Cannons x2
Missile Farms capable of launching standard missiles as well as Mk VI naqudah enhanced nuclear missiles

~Defenses: Two Asgard shield Generators
Trinium Alloy Hull
Cloaking device

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F-402

~Type: Small Fighter Craft
~Technology Base: Tau'ri/Goa'uld
~Length:3.5metres
~Height:1.4 metres (2.5with wings folded)
~Width:4.5 metres (2 with folded wings)
~Crew: One Pilot
~Goa'uld Inertial Dampeners
~Power source: One MK1 Naqudah Generator
~Propulsion: Trans-C Twin Drive
Anti-gravity wave generator

~Weapons: Nagudah enhanced Missiles
Machine Gun

~Defenses: Goa'uld Shield
Trinium Alloy Hull

~Notes: The F-402 Is Capable Of Raising Its Wings To Fit Through A Stargate

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F-403

~Type: Small Transport Craft
~Technology Base: Tau'ri/Asgard
~Length:8.5 metres
~Height:2 metres
~Width:1 metre
~Goa'uld Inertial Dampeners
~Crew: Two Pilots-Six Passengers
~Power source: One MKII Naqudah Generator
~Propulsion: Asgard Hyperdrive Engine
Three Trans-C Twin Drives
Anti-gravity wave generator

~Weapons: Naqudah enhanced Missiles

~Defenses: Asgard Shield
Trinium Alloy Hull
Cloaking Device

~Notes: The F-403 Has an Airlock at the Rear (The Design is based on the Puddle Jumper)

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BC-404

~Type: Large Capital Ship
~Technology Base: Tau'ri/Goa'uld/Asgard/Ancient
~Length: 875 metres
~Height: 98 metres
~Width: 159 metres
~Asgard Inertial Dampeners
~Power source: Relative Singularity Generator
Six Backup mk.II Naqudah Generators
~Propulsion: Alteran Hyperdrive Engine
Two +C Main Drives
Two Trans-C Twin Drives
Anti-gravity wave generator
~Hangar Capacity: 62 F-402's & 6 F-403's

~Weapons: Alteran Drones
Tollan Ion Cannon x2
Rail Gun Placements x8
Rail Cannon Placements x4
P-18 (Felgers Energy Weapon) Placements x8
Missiles (Naquadria Enhanced)
Mk IIX Nuclear Missiles (Naquadria Enhanced)

~Defenses: Two Alteran Sheild Generators
Trinium-Naqudah-Carbon Alloy Hull
Alteran Cloaking Device

~Notes: The BC-404; Klytia, The Tau'ri's Flagship contains a Stargate and D.H.D
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[boberth2o]

How the frack do you build a 3,050 kilometer hive ship!!?? Your first two are less than half the size of what a hive is generally considered to be, and then your third is something like 30 times the size of the largest vessel ever shown on SG!!! Dude I hope that was a typo.

I think he meant meters because its about 1895 miles in standard.

[jds1982]

I think he meant meters because its about 1895 miles in standard.

I'm hoping it was supposed to be 3.050 km instead of 3,050 km, but still that's really small for a hive, more like cruiser size. How big is a hive ship, something like 11 km? The smallest estimate I've heard was 5 km.
Edit: I suppose this is the best basis for estimating the size of a hive ship, making it about 11 times the length of Daedalus. If only we had accurate data on the size of Daedalus, stupid scaling issues.

[boberth2o]

If any of you guys want to make a 3D hive ship i suggest that you use 3D Canvas, it's better than google sketchup and you can animate your models so you could make battles with scale ship. It's sweet, to get the program Click Here