The Anti Season 4 Thread (Spoilers). For complaints and misgivings ONLY.

[justhere1971]

I need sleep... I need to dream of beautiful psychologist and kick-ass Athosian. I need to have plenty of adventures in and around Atlantis. I need to kick Wraith butt and race my puddlejumper around the planet.

Alright you can go as far as REM sleep. Then it's time to get back and wield some Anti mojo.

[Falcon Horus]

As for the less humor, ITA. What little humor is there, is done in bad taste, i.e. Zelenka ogling Carter's chest. Come on.
Make it dark, I am all for it, but in the darkness to survive one must have humor.

Apart from being sleep deprived, I'm on no drugs at the moment...and I think you're making loads of sense.

[Falcon Horus]

Alright you can go as far as REM sleep. Then it's time to get back and wield some Anti mojo.

[kirmit]

You know it's funny how reading one little thing can completely throw you off of a show. So about a week ago I was reading JM's blog when I came across this

PG15 writes: “I thought the Replicator Aurora class ships were kind of weaker than their Lantian cousins in BAMSR. They barely fired any drones and their shields seemed to have come down really fast.”

Answer: Two points - 1. The weapons systems on the Earth ship have been upgraded following the events of Unending. 2. The replicator Aurora-class ships are very good replicas of their original Ancient counterparts. But they are not the originals.

My first reaction, WTF?! Right so the Asgard (one of the most powerful races in the stargate universe) spend a whole year developing perhaps one of the most powerful weapons we've seen and then the primitive Earthlings come along and upgrade it.....yeah right.

Now about the Asurans, so throughout their entire time on the show we were told they imitated the ancients and through what we saw they did it to the max and moreso. All seemed good with them, their technoloy fit the bill and is what I expected from the ancients until BAMSR roles around. Suddenly their Aurora class ships can't match upto their creators and are just cheap knock-offs, again.....yeah right.

The point of this is, it's shown me how little thought and effort TPTB are putting into the show now, they're making more plotholes than ever then trying to cover their mistakes with crap explanations. I've noticed a steady decline in the effort put into our enemies on the show, making both their intelligence and military might weaker to make Earth look great. I'm tired of it now, I prefer SG-1 when they used stealth and clever tactics to defeat the enemies, not this dumb 'Lets blow them up with our big weapons and use simple tactics that our supposedly vastly superior enemy could never counteract'. What I loved was the clever ideas, the thought that went into it, now it's just simple ideas that are somehow doing the job. I'll admit the method of defeating the Asurans was clever but I mean it's nothing like what they used to do, for example the Asurans was basically stick them all together and blow them up, old days example, Earth lures Apophis' fleet to a planet, use a stargate to make the sun go supernova, timed perfectly, sun destroys most of the fleet (even hat didn't g completely to plan). Maybe it's just me though, anyway I doubt I'll be watching the rest of season 4 or 5 because of these reasons, rant over .

[Jackie]

You know it's funny how reading one little thing can completely throw you off of a show. So about a week ago I was reading JM's blog when I came across this



My first reaction, WTF?! Right so the Asgard (one of the most powerful races in the stargate universe) spend a whole year developing perhaps one of the most powerful weapons we've seen and then the primitive Earthlings come along and upgrade it.....yeah right.

Now about the Asurans, so throughout their entire time on the show we were told they imitated the ancients and through what we saw they did it to the max and moreso. All seemed good with them, their technoloy fit the bill and is what I expected from the ancients until BAMSR roles around. Suddenly their Aurora class ships can't match upto their creators and are just cheap knock-offs, again.....yeah right.

The point of this is, it's shown me how little thought and effort TPTB are putting into the show now, they're making more plotholes than ever then trying to cover their mistakes with crap explanations. I've noticed a steady decline in the effort put into our enemies on the show, making both their intelligence and military might weaker to make Earth look great. I'm tired of it now, I prefer SG-1 when they used stealth and clever tactics to defeat the enemies, not this dumb 'Lets blow them up with our big weapons and use simple tactics that our supposedly vastly superior enemy could never counteract'. What I loved was the clever ideas, the thought that went into it, now it's just simple ideas that are somehow doing the job. I'll admit the method of defeating the Asurans was clever but I mean it's nothing like what they used to do, for example the Asurans was basically stick them all together and blow them up, old days example, Earth lures Apophis' fleet to a planet, use a stargate to make the sun go supernova, timed perfectly, sun destroys most of the fleet (even hat didn't g completely to plan). Maybe it's just me though, anyway I doubt I'll be watching the rest of season 4 or 5 because of these reasons, rant over .

Excellent post.

JM merely confirmed in his blog that the Asgard were killed off and discarded so they could have an easier way of explaining the obvious lack of thought they put into their product.

Early SG-1 was far better than any SGA ep I have ever seen and even with the excuse of "we had 2 shows to write for" no longer an issue they still don't seem to get it.

The big bad ships, the alien tech, the lack of a solid story arc over all degrades the show and has morphed it into something that is not Stargate.

SGA is now a bad knock off of Star Trek...meaning star trek is better and I'm not a trekky.

I liked Stargate because we (earth) didn't have all the gadgets, gizmos and alien tech. No beam in and out tech, no Earth ships and certainly no space battles pitting Earth battle cruisers against alien mother ships.

tptb just don't seem to understand that they are losing more viewers than gaining due to this cheap knock off of Star Trek.

If I wanted to watch deep space battles with big, honking, earth ships I would watch Star Trek.

[mcbarr]

You know it's funny how reading one little thing can completely throw you off of a show. So about a week ago I was reading JM's blog when I came across this

My first reaction, WTF?! Right so the Asgard (one of the most powerful races in the stargate universe) spend a whole year developing perhaps one of the most powerful weapons we've seen and then the primitive Earthlings come along and upgrade it.....yeah right.

Now about the Asurans, so throughout their entire time on the show we were told they imitated the ancients and through what we saw they did it to the max and moreso. All seemed good with them, their technoloy fit the bill and is what I expected from the ancients until BAMSR roles around. Suddenly their Aurora class ships can't match upto their creators and are just cheap knock-offs, again.....yeah right.

The point of this is, it's shown me how little thought and effort TPTB are putting into the show now, they're making more plotholes than ever then trying to cover their mistakes with crap explanations. I've noticed a steady decline in the effort put into our enemies on the show, making both their intelligence and military might weaker to make Earth look great. I'm tired of it now, I prefer SG-1 when they used stealth and clever tactics to defeat the enemies, not this dumb 'Lets blow them up with our big weapons and use simple tactics that our supposedly vastly superior enemy could never counteract'. What I loved was the clever ideas, the thought that went into it, now it's just simple ideas that are somehow doing the job. I'll admit the method of defeating the Asurans was clever but I mean it's nothing like what they used to do, for example the Asurans was basically stick them all together and blow them up, old days example, Earth lures Apophis' fleet to a planet, use a stargate to make the sun go supernova, timed perfectly, sun destroys most of the fleet (even hat didn't g completely to plan). Maybe it's just me though, anyway I doubt I'll be watching the rest of season 4 or 5 because of these reasons, rant over .

I thought they were going to explain the overall lack of planetary defense, and the weaker Auroras as some sort of sabotage conducted by RepliWeir's gang. Guess I was wrong...

But yeah, when a PTB tries to fill plot holes on his personal blog (to no effect), something ain't right.

Early SG-1 was far better than any SGA ep I have ever seen and even with the excuse of "we had 2 shows to write for" no longer an issue they still don't seem to get it.

The first season of SGA was very good, actually. Things got worse when TPTB started bringing Stargate Command elements (problems) to SGA from season 2 onwards. Unfortunately, they continue to do so to this very day. Even SG-1 characters are being brought now.

[Ruined_puzzle]

Hey while I was napping this afternoon, I had one of those half sleep/half awake dreams, and saw Shep sitting with us on the couch.

Shep wants Lizzie back

Was everyone fighting to seat next to Shep. lol.

[justhere1971]

Shep wants Lizzie back

Was everyone fighting to seat next to Shep. lol.

Surprisingly it was only the two of us.

[marielabbott]

hee hee, they did give me good drugs though, which is good.

As for the less humor, ITA. What little humor is there, is done in bad taste, i.e. Zelenka ogling Carter's chest. Come on.
Make it dark, I am all for it, but in the darkness to survive one must have humor.
Maybe it's my drugs talking?

I'm drug-free and you're making sense to me.

You know it's funny how reading one little thing can completely throw you off of a show. So about a week ago I was reading JM's blog when I came across this


My first reaction, WTF?! Right so the Asgard (one of the most powerful races in the stargate universe) spend a whole year developing perhaps one of the most powerful weapons we've seen and then the primitive Earthlings come along and upgrade it.....yeah right.

Now about the Asurans, so throughout their entire time on the show we were told they imitated the ancients and through what we saw they did it to the max and moreso. All seemed good with them, their technoloy fit the bill and is what I expected from the ancients until BAMSR roles around. Suddenly their Aurora class ships can't match upto their creators and are just cheap knock-offs, again.....yeah right.

The point of this is, it's shown me how little thought and effort TPTB are putting into the show now, they're making more plotholes than ever then trying to cover their mistakes with crap explanations. I've noticed a steady decline in the effort put into our enemies on the show, making both their intelligence and military might weaker to make Earth look great. I'm tired of it now, I prefer SG-1 when they used stealth and clever tactics to defeat the enemies, not this dumb 'Lets blow them up with our big weapons and use simple tactics that our supposedly vastly superior enemy could never counteract'. What I loved was the clever ideas, the thought that went into it, now it's just simple ideas that are somehow doing the job. I'll admit the method of defeating the Asurans was clever but I mean it's nothing like what they used to do, for example the Asurans was basically stick them all together and blow them up, old days example, Earth lures Apophis' fleet to a planet, use a stargate to make the sun go supernova, timed perfectly, sun destroys most of the fleet (even hat didn't g completely to plan). Maybe it's just me though, anyway I doubt I'll be watching the rest of season 4 or 5 because of these reasons, rant over .

I get so focused on what they're doing to mess with the characters I like, sometimes I don't notice the flaws in the universe they created. Interesting post. Maybe that's the plan, to get us so up in arms about frakking with the characters that we'll overlook the other problems.

[parisindy]

Hey while I was napping this afternoon, I had one of those half sleep/half awake dreams, and saw Shep sitting with us on the couch.

i hope you feel better soon ((hugs)) but having a dream like that must of helped a little

[Pajus]

If I send Seven you'll beg for those tubules .


*Sending jeri out the door *

*activates lightsaber* You won't assimilate anyone

p.s. My back is still in pain, left side still numb. Stupid drs. don't know what's wrong. I blame lack of Weir in S4!

Hope you get well soon

Bed? What's that? No sleeping for the antis. It's a 24/7 duty!

Unless it's an anti-bed, where FH can sleep with...

There's a lot less humor in season 4 than in previous ones, I think. Maybe that goes along with their darker tone, but I also think some of the humor just falls flat, too. They had a much better balance of humor/drama in previous seasons.

The Zelenka ventilation-crawling was the best scene I've seen in S4 (so far)

I need sleep... I need to dream of beautiful psychologist and kick-ass Athosian. I need to have plenty of adventures in and around Atlantis. I need to kick Wraith butt and race my puddlejumper around the planet.

You can always create an OC and incorporate her in your fanfictions

You know it's funny how reading one little thing can completely throw you off of a show. So about a week ago I was reading JM's blog when I came across this



My first reaction, WTF?! Right so the Asgard (one of the most powerful races in the stargate universe) spend a whole year developing perhaps one of the most powerful weapons we've seen and then the primitive Earthlings come along and upgrade it.....yeah right.

Now about the Asurans, so throughout their entire time on the show we were told they imitated the ancients and through what we saw they did it to the max and moreso. All seemed good with them, their technoloy fit the bill and is what I expected from the ancients until BAMSR roles around. Suddenly their Aurora class ships can't match upto their creators and are just cheap knock-offs, again.....yeah right.

The point of this is, it's shown me how little thought and effort TPTB are putting into the show now, they're making more plotholes than ever then trying to cover their mistakes with crap explanations. I've noticed a steady decline in the effort put into our enemies on the show, making both their intelligence and military might weaker to make Earth look great. I'm tired of it now, I prefer SG-1 when they used stealth and clever tactics to defeat the enemies, not this dumb 'Lets blow them up with our big weapons and use simple tactics that our supposedly vastly superior enemy could never counteract'. What I loved was the clever ideas, the thought that went into it, now it's just simple ideas that are somehow doing the job. I'll admit the method of defeating the Asurans was clever but I mean it's nothing like what they used to do, for example the Asurans was basically stick them all together and blow them up, old days example, Earth lures Apophis' fleet to a planet, use a stargate to make the sun go supernova, timed perfectly, sun destroys most of the fleet (even hat didn't g completely to plan). Maybe it's just me though, anyway I doubt I'll be watching the rest of season 4 or 5 because of these reasons, rant over .

That explanation was bad and JM should feel bad for delivering it

I thought they were going to explain the overall lack of planetary defense, and the weaker Auroras as some sort of sabotage conducted by RepliWeir's gang. Guess I was wrong...

Are you mad? That would require TPTB to think! That they never do

The first season of SGA was very good, actually. Things got worse when TPTB started bringing Stargate Command elements (problems) to SGA from season 2 onwards. Unfortunately, they continue to do so to this very day. Even SG-1 characters are being brought now.

And even that is not enough to make things better.

[Integrabyte]

Hey while I was napping this afternoon, I had one of those half sleep/half awake dreams, and saw Shep sitting with us on the couch.

Are you telling us your fantasies missy ? Should we tell you ours?

Was everyone fighting to seat next to Shep. lol.

Not a big fan of GEL so the answer is not everybody

[Pajus]

Are you telling us your fantasies missy ? Should we tell you ours?

As a servant of the Smut side, I'm very pleaserd to see this thread going down the gutter

[dana]

As a servant of the Smut side, I'm very pleaserd to see this thread going down the gutter

You should see the Shep/Weir thread from time to time....

[Pajus]

You should see the Shep/Weir thread from time to time....

And you should see the Zelenka/Weir thread all the time