Re: isn't it about time we get better weapons of daedalus an prometheus

[Durgia]

you do know this thread is 4 years old???!!??

[hawkmajor]

massive spoiler!!

Spoiler:

the Oddyssey and daedalus were given asgard weapons in s10 'Unending' just before they commited mass suicide

i though just the oddyssey got the upgrades

[tjoflojt]

Oddy got them in Unending, the rest of the 304s were upgraded with them after that.

[boyd18]

before they got the plasma beam weapons, people were complaining thatearth ships are weak because they dont have decent weapons....that it was time to get something that was more powerful then the railguns....but now that earth ships finally got some decent weapons (more then decent) people are still complaining...only now they're complaining about them being to powerful...that earth ships and specifically the oddyssey have become to powerful....

it just seems you cant satisfy anyone...

[Buba uognarf]

before they got the plasma beam weapons, people were complaining thatearth ships are weak because they dont have decent weapons....that it was time to get something that was more powerful then the railguns....but now that earth ships finally got some decent weapons (more then decent) people are still complaining...only now they're complaining about them being to powerful...that earth ships and specifically the oddyssey have become to powerful....

it just seems you cant satisfy anyone...

Would it have been to hard to give the 304's standard Asgard pulse weapons? The Asgard beams are wank rays and plot devices which ruin any sort of suspense in space battles.

[tjoflojt]

Would it have been to hard to give the 304's standard Asgard pulse weapons? The Asgard beams are wank rays and plot devices which ruin any sort of suspense in space battles.

they could have been fine, if they had kept them on the oddy. the rest of the 304s are underpowered the way it is, so why not give them a weapon they can power properly?

[guppy338]

the reason they got ABW is because on the show the standard Asgard weapons did not work on the Ori so BW where needed to beat them it just so happed that they put them on the others so it for the first time gave us a advantige in weapons tec for the first time

[Buba uognarf]

they could have been fine, if they had kept them on the oddy. the rest of the 304s are underpowered the way it is, so why not give them a weapon they can power properly?

I agree, the stunning power of the beam weapons could have been linked to the ZPM powering them instead we get all 304's owning everything in sight.

the reason they got ABW is because on the show the standard Asgard weapons did not work on the Ori so BW where needed to beat them it just so happed that they put them on the others so it for the first time gave us a advantige in weapons tec for the first time

Yes but now the Ori are gone and TPTB need to invent handicaps in battles to prevent Earth owning everyone that or wank up the Wraith to massive proportions.

[guppy338]

Yes but now the Ori are gone and TPTB need to invent handicaps in battles to prevent Earth owning everyone that or wank up the Wraith to massive proportions.

i no that but atlantic and sg1 have ended apart form the new movies and SGU will not have it and the destany is falling apart so we will be back to square one agen

[boyd18]

the way i see it is the beam weapons stength isn't because they're uber powerful, but rather there ability to be fired in rapid secession without a long recharge period...there ability to be fired in rapid secession let the Oddy punch through the ori ships shields without actually having to drain its them..

now we've seen the Oddy fire multiple times a min...but from what i've seen, normal 304's dont seem to fire as fast...so maybe thats there handicap right there...the oddy's ZPM enables it to fire faster then a normal 304...so i wonder how well a normal 304 wold do against a ori mothership...

[oniel193]

well now theyve got asgard beams YEAH PWN THEM lol

[hawkmajor]

well now theyve got asgard beams YEAH PWN THEM lol

does the george hammond though??

[thekillman]

the railguns on the deadalus IMO suck, just as the missiles, and just as the 302's. now TBH, we dont need uber plasma weapons to solve that.

1: railguns. add two more "rails" that are not connected to the main rails. they generate an additional magnetic field which augments the railgun. doubling or so it's power.

2: Missiles. i know, they're expensive. but mostly, that applies to ICBM's. space has no range. i think adding a small powersource (like a staffweapon's), along with a VASIMR drive, will significantly enhance it's speed and maneuverability, and make our missiles well, better. also, detonate their nukes ON the shield and dont let the missiles harmlessly impact them.

regarding the cost of nukes: america still has to reduce the amount of nukes it has. take the nukes scheduled for demolition, add a few bricks of naquahdah and push them in these missiles. (relatively) cheap and easy.

3: energy weapons. i think that the 304's should have adaptable turrets. so when a 304 goes off to fight the wraith, these energy hardpoints have Particle Beam Cannons mounted on them (A Hundred Days, Serpent's Song (i believe)). when we fight enemies with shields, we replace them with energy cannons of our own design, a ship-grade version of the X-699 made to function.

without using the Asgard in any way, our 304's would be way better. much greater firepower.

[hawkmajor]

the railguns on the deadalus IMO suck, just as the missiles, and just as the 302's. now TBH, we dont need uber plasma weapons to solve that.

1: railguns. add two more "rails" that are not connected to the main rails. they generate an additional magnetic field which augments the railgun. doubling or so it's power.

2: Missiles. i know, they're expensive. but mostly, that applies to ICBM's. space has no range. i think adding a small powersource (like a staffweapon's), along with a VASIMR drive, will significantly enhance it's speed and maneuverability, and make our missiles well, better. also, detonate their nukes ON the shield and dont let the missiles harmlessly impact them.

regarding the cost of nukes: america still has to reduce the amount of nukes it has. take the nukes scheduled for demolition, add a few bricks of naquahdah and push them in these missiles. (relatively) cheap and easy.

3: energy weapons. i think that the 304's should have adaptable turrets. so when a 304 goes off to fight the wraith, these energy hardpoints have Particle Beam Cannons mounted on them (A Hundred Days, Serpent's Song (i believe)). when we fight enemies with shields, we replace them with energy cannons of our own design, a ship-grade version of the X-699 made to function.

without using the Asgard in any way, our 304's would be way better. much greater firepower.

i like your ideas but the asgard weapons are great and why would "we" sacrifice the asgard core

[lordofseas]

does the george hammond though??

It is a Daedalus class, so logically, it would, unless Earth has created a new uber superheated plasma beam weapon that can be mounted on ships.