So either the crew is consisted of idiots or they are willfully ignorant

[Lord Hurin]

I'm ashamed to say I'm very new to Stargate. I watched the movie, but haven't seen the other series. I plan on buying the boxed set for season 1 of each this weekend.

I'd advise watching the first few seasons of SG-1 before starting on Atlantis. Atlantis season 1 was concurrent with SG-1's (I believe) 8th season. You don't want to hear something on Atlantis that will spoil seasons' worth of SG-1 for you, right?

[Saquist]

You're mixing up Atlantis and Vis Urban. Though Atlantis was built before the Plague, it's highly unlikely it was anything more than an unimportant research station. I doubt the early Lantians would have survived the Plague if it had been anything more than that.

I don't know about that.

[Daro]

I'd advise watching the first few seasons of SG-1 before starting on Atlantis. Atlantis season 1 was concurrent with SG-1's (I believe) 8th season. You don't want to hear something on Atlantis that will spoil seasons' worth of SG-1 for you, right?

Good idea. Wow, 8 seasons? Dang. How many did Atlantis have?

[Avenger]

5

[Buck32]

Young: We got caught in a rockslide! There was no time for me to help Rush through the gate!
Everyone: Alright. We'll buy.

Umm... what? From what we saw, the planet consisted of a lot of desert and that one cliff-mini-mountain-hill-looking thing devoid of much rock for a slide. If you look at Young's clothes, it's obvious he hasn't been in a rock slide. Especially not rocks big enough to cause a rock slide serious enough to knock someone unconscious.

For one thing, his physical damage is highly local. There are no scrapes all over his body or face. All he has is a gash on his forehead, consistent with a fight (or just that one rock that was hurled at him).

If you take a look at his clothes, there's sand all over them. But there aren't holes in them. If there had been a rock slide, jagged rocks would've cut up his clothes (and possibly his body beneath those clothes).

Yeah, if I saw him walk in like that, the way he did and listened to the way he said what he said (without looking at anyone, by the way), I would've been highly suspicious. Especially if I was Eli, considering what he later tells Eli to do. Why wasn't there a KINO there recording them, anyway?

So is the expedition full of idiots or are they willfully ignoring the evidence?

These people aren't stupid they would have to think Young's rockslide story is a cover and a pretty bad one at that.

[The Mighty 6 platoon]

These people aren't stupid they would have to think Young's rockslide story is a cover and a pretty bad one at that.

Pretty much. In fact it’s very obvious from the look on Eli’s face at the end of the episode that he doesn’t believe a word of it.

[Skydiver]

eli is suspicious. the others, questioning

as to Rush being the only one to understand the ship, that's doubtful. Right now, yeah he had the most experience, but I think that's more because he didn't allow others to learn. They were there to be his assistants, fetch him coffee, do his scut work. I doubt he briefs and trains them adn shares any more knowledge than he has to.

that's how he keeps his control. And, for example, that's how it took Eli to figure out that he'd edited the database, not once, but twice. (inserting the Icarus planet, deleting the kino footage).

In my opinion, rush doesn't want competition, just lackies, so he shares as little as he can, so he's always the expert, always in control, and he can tweak the data to say whatever he wants it to and no one else is any the wiser, because they lack the knowledge to question him.

Treatment like this breeds a lot of dissent and distrust amongst people. They get frustrated with being kept in the dark, with being stymied, and knowing Rush, likely snarked at and insulted if the mood strikes him.

So, for a lot of them, maybe they are suspicious about how it happened. But they're simply to glad to be rid of him that they don't push. Because, with him gone, the scientists can now honestly study stuff and work on the ship without being curtailed and directed.

Sure, he may know more, but I do think he keeps others from learning, and they will be well rid of the conflict and control

[Blackhole]

The stones are only to be used for beating up rivals and having sex using other folks' bodies. There'll be none of this logical 'let's bring in someone who can help us.' crap!

Forgive me, you are likely correct in saying Daniel is the expert.

I'm ashamed to say I'm very new to Stargate. I watched the movie, but haven't seen the other series. I plan on buying the boxed set for season 1 of each this weekend.

As for Rush's expertise, I have to believe that O'Neill wouldn't have Rush on the project as the lead scientist to start with if he wasn't near the top of the list.

I believe Stargate Atlantis came out concurrently with the 8th season of Stargate SG-1. To achieve maximum continuity you may want to watch the first 7 seasons of SG-1 first, assuming you get into the show enough to enjoy it.

The MGM website says Rush is one of the leading scientists of his time. I read it yesterday for the first time. See it below:

"The scientific head of the Icarus program and a certifiable genius, Dr. Nicholas Rush is one of the most brilliant scientists of his day. Having devoted some of the most difficult years of his life to the program, he knows more than anyone the importance of what is beyond that 9th chevron address. Definitely not the most agreeable aboard the ship, he is without a doubt the mastermind behind most of what goes on, whether people know it or not. Unwilling to bend to any sort of military rule, his focus is always on discovering the secrets to, and purpose of the Destiny."

I have watched all the series from their inception many times I have to admit that Rush didn't come across to me as that brilliant. I suspect part of that impression arises out of the fact that SGU is different than previous series in that it isn't letting the Destiny’s problems solved as fast, making Rush's competence seem less. I think that is why die hard fans don't regard him as being as smart as Carter and McKay and other scientists. Many of these same fans expect them to stone to the Destiny so they can fix things. I don't think that is going to happen anytime soon as SGU's writers for dramatic purposes don't want the show's problems solved that quickly or easily.

[AdamTM]

I believe Stargate Atlantis came out concurrently with the 8th season of Stargate SG-1. To achieve maximum continuity you may want to watch the first 7 seasons of SG-1 first, assuming you get into the show enough to enjoy it.

The MGM website says Rush is one of the leading scientists of his time. I read it yesterday for the first time. See it below:

"The scientific head of the Icarus program and a certifiable genius, Dr. Nicholas Rush is one of the most brilliant scientists of his day. Having devoted some of the most difficult years of his life to the program, he knows more than anyone the importance of what is beyond that 9th chevron address. Definitely not the most agreeable aboard the ship, he is without a doubt the mastermind behind most of what goes on, whether people know it or not. Unwilling to bend to any sort of military rule, his focus is always on discovering the secrets to, and purpose of the Destiny."

I have watched all the series from their inception many times I have to admit that Rush didn't come across to me as that brilliant. I suspect part of that impression arises out of the fact that SGU is different than previous series in that it isn't letting the Destiny’s problems solved as fast, making Rush's competence seem less. I think that is why die hard fans don't regard him as being as smart as Carter and McKay and other scientists. Many of these same fans expect them to stone to the Destiny so they can fix things. I don't think that is going to happen anytime soon as SGU's writers for dramatic purposes don't want the show's problems solved that quickly or easily.

Hes a realistic genius, not McKay genius.

McKay is really close to a Savant, Rush is more like...lets say Dyson.

I wonder if he and Hawkings are friends.

[aretood2]

Hes a realistic genius, not McKay genius.

McKay is really close to a Savant, Rush is more like...lets say Dyson.

I wonder if he and Hawkings are friends.

Some how I don't see Rush and Hawkings being friends!

[AdamTM]

Some how I don't see Rush and Hawkings being friends!

Yeah, Rush would never let Hawkings finish a sentence

[aretood2]

Yeah, Rush would never let Hawkings finish a sentence

I just don't see him being sensitive to Hawkings...condition.

[AdamTM]

I just don't see him being sensitive to Hawkings...condition.

Gah my humor was wasted

[aretood2]

Gah my humor was wasted

Contact Soul [email protected] will teach you well on humor....

[Skydiver]

I don't know if rush is friends with anyone really. he's isolated himself - especially with his arrogant attitude - and impatience with others.

I doubt he really has anyone he can consider or call friend