Lets Play Stratedgy, How would you of defended destiny?

[dgh64]

IMO the difference between the prison planet and the Jumper in 38 minutes was that if it had been possible to apply the reverse thrust necessary to fight against the Gate's inertia then they would have been able to get out of that. Don't forget that when you start to enter the gate then it automatically tries to pull you through. It is possible to pull out again, but only if there is more of you outside the gate than in, or if the force was great enough. I always got the impression that the pulling force increased the greater amount of an object started to go through. In the case of the Jumper, at first the engine got stuck, this robbed them of their momentum and then their position and damage to the ship prevented them from applying the necessary reverse thrust.

Yes, if the Jumper had been able to apply reverse thrust then they could have backed out of the gate just fine. The thing is, though, a large portion of the jumper (seemed like 4 or 5 feet, at least) was sticking through the gate, and if they were being consistent (with the food pipe on the prison episode) then the front part of the Jumper should have been sticking out in Atlantis's gate room.

[Phenomenological]

The 'One way through the gate' concept is used when it's convenient and ignored when it's convenient. Such is television.

[pipi]

The reason the food pipe worked on the prison planet is because it never completely emerged from the puddle

I think it's just a plot hole, or a specially modified stargate, seeing that the people had some advanced technology anyway. What would happen if a prisoner grabbed onto the end of the food pipe as it retracted? The arm and body could constitute part of the end of the food pipe as far as the stargate is concerned.


Speaking of plot holes. The event horizon specifically repells water and air. So depending on how strict it is, food gloop could be repelled from entering the horizon if it had a high water content. Possibly another plot hole.

[Major_Griff]

In 38 minutes Ford was pulled out from the puddle when only his hand was sticking out. I don't think there's any inconsistency. Besides if I'm just missing something and there is, the argument could be made that in Prisoners it was an incoming wormhole and in 38 minutes it was outgoing so that could explain it.

[dgh64]

Yes, in Prisoners they were on the "out" side of the wormhole and in 38 mintues they were on the "in" side... but for consistency, the front end of the jumper should have been sticking through into Atlantis's gate room, along with the pilot and all-of-Ford-except-his-hand.

[jelgate]

Yes, in Prisoners they were on the "out" side of the wormhole and in 38 mintues they were on the "in" side... but for consistency, the front end of the jumper should have been sticking through into Atlantis's gate room, along with the pilot and all-of-Ford-except-his-hand.

No. The wormhole only transmits as whole. Numerous episodes prove this

[Major_Griff]

No. The wormhole only transmits as whole. Numerous episodes prove this

Yeah Air pt 3 for instance, and I'm sure there's some SG-1 eps from before 38 minutes that would be examples.

[fmbchris]

I would use kenos as Suicide Bombers. put a block of c4 on one!

[Giantevilhead]

Push the gate over so that anyone who comes through falls right back into the event horizon.

[J_schinderlin56]

I would have Optimus Prime waiting for them in the Gateroom ready to Transform and Roll over em'

[bobsuncorp]

Turn off the artificial gravity and have a defense team in magnetised boots. Has someone already said that?

Glad we have got away from the discussion of wormhole theory....

[YutheGreat]

With Young's intel, Strategically venting would be the best way to defend the gate; but you have to do it fast I mean really fast like 30 seconds or less I mean there is a chance the enemy brought oxygen tanks and had time to use them. In order to conserve ammo and prevent loss of life for earth forces

If I had all information, (Like the fact that Kiva had hostages, Icarus planet blowing up, and that they had door openers I would have had cargo containers placed in front of the gate with every man armed behind them. The moment a LA member step in a single shot to the head for each one. The ones behind will have no warning so they'll just keep comming in and dying as they rematerialize on our side. Of course, we might run out of ammo before they run out of men.

[xxxevilgrinxxx]

With Young's intel, Strategically venting would be the best way to defend the gate; but you have to do it fast I mean really fast like 30 seconds or less I mean there is a chance the enemy brought oxygen tanks and had time to use them. In order to conserve ammo and prevent loss of life for earth forces

If I had all information, (Like the fact that Kiva had hostages, Icarus planet blowing up, and that they had door openers I would have had cargo containers placed in front of the gate with every man armed behind them. The moment a LA member step in a single shot to the head for each one. The ones behind will have no warning so they'll just keep comming in and dying as they rematerialize on our side. Of course, we might run out of ammo before they run out of men.

he didn't have all the information though, which is the thing
he had what he had to work with

[Control_Chair]

I would have already had the gate room in a vacuum before the gate dialled and not waited until the wormhole had established. I would also have had Riley standing by in the communications lab to pull the plug on the stones as soon as Rush/Telford came through (not knowing that gate travel would sever the link anyway). Finally I would have had Scott and Greer in the environmental suits to recue Telford as soon as possible....Incursion by LA forces, dealt with!

[YutheGreat]

he didn't have all the information though, which is the thing
he had what he had to work with

Yeah he did the best he could under the circumstances. Without killing Telford...