How Did Scott Ever Pass Military Training?

[The Mighty 6 platoon]

Greer never questions what Col. Young does, because he knows his place. Scott was sounding like a little wimp. "Waahh, you're gonna kill him, waaaaah". Shut up and be a soldier Scott!

Err, it's Scott's job to question his superior if he thinks he's about to commit illegal actions. It's his duty to stop him. Please actually know something about the military before jumping to conclusions.

[Lahela]

This argument always reminds me of SGA's "Instinct".

DEX: Aren't we supposed to follow his orders?

TEYLA: Sometimes, we are allowed to make exceptions.

DEX: And who decides when it's one of those times?

TEYLA: We do.

It seems to sum up the way things work in practice pretty well. I take it to mean that if the orders are inappropriate for a developing situation and the officer in charge can't or won't change them, then those who serve under that officer have some leeway.

[The Mighty 6 platoon]

This argument always reminds me of SGA's "Instinct".



It seems to sum up the way things work in practice pretty well. I take it to mean that if the orders are inappropriate for a developing situation and the officer in charge can't or won't change them, then those who serve under that officer have some leeway.

All orders are subject to change on the ground. If you've just had an order to charge an enemy position passed down from HQ, but you've just discovered an enemy machine gun nest in the way, then no one will raise an eyebrow if those orders are disregarded.

If an order is downright illegal, then not only to those receiving it have the duty not to obey, but if at all possible prevent the execution of that order and report it.

[Lahela]

All orders are subject to change on the ground. If you've just had an order to charge an enemy position passed down from HQ, but you've just discovered an enemy machine gun nest in the way, then no one will raise an eyebrow if those orders are disregarded.

If an order is downright illegal, then not only to those receiving it have the duty not to obey, but if at all possible prevent the execution of that order
and report it.

That's what I thought, but my military training has consisted entirely of a lot of TV, so I just wanted to check.

[jelgate]

Those female instructors can be easily convinced

[The Mighty 6 platoon]

That's what I thought, but my military training has consisted entirely of a lot of TV, so I just wanted to check.

Clearly you've been watching the more realistic shows then.

[Coronach]

I love how the one person who is extremely familiar with military matters in this thread is diametrically opposed to the view others are taking of "Scott needs to be a REAL soldier!!!11", yet those others are convinced they're right.

Not to pull a Godwin's law or anything, but if you're going to say that soldier's must ALWAYS obey their superior officers without question, then you cannot fault anyone in the Nazi regime for what they did save for the superior officers that gave those orders. After all, they were just "being good soldiers", amirite?!

Sure, this example is very far removed in magnitude...but the underlying idea is the same. Also, thanks go out to The Mighty 6 platoon for his insight. I can't green you at the moment though.

[Shai Hulud]

Thing is though, Scott's making a habit of questioning or ignoring Young's orders. Hardly the sort of actions which the Captain of Team Young should be displaying.

[The Mighty 6 platoon]

I love how the one person who is extremely familiar with military matters in this thread is diametrically opposed to the view others are taking of "Scott needs to be a REAL soldier!!!11", yet those others are convinced they're right.

Not to pull a Godwin's law or anything, but if you're going to say that soldier's must ALWAYS obey their superior officers without question, then you cannot fault anyone in the Nazi regime for what they did save for the superior officers that gave those orders. After all, they were just "being good soldiers", amirite?!

Sure, this example is very far removed in magnitude...but the underlying idea is the same. Also, thanks go out to The Mighty 6 platoon for his insight. I can't green you at the moment though.

Steady now let's not make my head too big.

I'm not even the biggest expert on the forum, I'm part time, a member of the TA, come from a military family and have a lot of friends in the military. Compared to some of the military guys on the forum I'm a small fry.

Problem is their not online at the moment.

[The Mighty 6 platoon]

Thing is though, Scott's making a habit of questioning or ignoring Young's orders. Hardly the sort of actions which the Captain of Team Young should be displaying.

And if his orders are illegal or even invalid then its his job to question those orders.

[erotavlas]

He passed through it, like everything else. In and out, in and out.



* get it? :-P

i don't get it....sorry my simple mind can't handle certain things...

[Shai Hulud]

And if his orders are illegal or even invalid then its his job to question those orders.

Fact that he listens to Wray rather than Young speaks volumes IMHO.

[Shai Hulud]

i don't get it....sorry my simple mind can't handle certain things...

A pun on Scott's sexual proclivities?

[The Mighty 6 platoon]

Fact that he listens to Wray rather than Young speaks volumes IMHO.

Not really. He listened to Wray in this case because Young was on the verge of committing a highly illegal act under military law. But when Wray tired her little coup Scott was with Young 100%. Pretty much says it all really.

[Cory Holmes]

Steady now let's not make my head too big.

*shoots you in the head*
There, problem solved

Not really. He listened to Wray in this case because Young was on the verge of committing a highly illegal act under military law. But when Wray tired her little coup Scott was with Young 100%. Pretty much says it all really.

This is so true.