Jack O'Neill's position and actions in Earth

[leiasky]

You know, I get the feeling O'Neill was cool with it - simply because he wanted Young in command and not Telford. When Young stood up for himself and grew a pair while Telford ran away, O'Neill let it slide.

I can believe that. It is something Jack would do and does keep with his character and personality from SG-1.

[Maxum]

Jack was right. The military is not a democracy.

Young was being a douche.

Except that the crew of the Destiny is made up mostly of civilians, not military. I think that was Young's point to Jack.

As for Jack's spine, it's still there and fully intact. I like that Jack took Young into his office and they both expressed their mutual respect for each other. I think the animosity and disrespect at the end was directed at the IOA and Telford, which is something Jack himself has done many times when sitting at a table with Hammond and other Washington types. If anything, I think Jack sees a bit of himself in Young, minus the wisecracking, of course. I really like Young. He's my favorite character, and I'm looking forward to some more interaction with him and O'Neill.

[Pharaoh Atem]

i agree, i think O'Neill has changed, part of it is most likely because his job is alot more stressful than in sg-1

actually i think his newe job has changed in a good way. he can just sit back and relax and not have to worry about commanding a team and keeping everyone safe.

and last i knew the milky way galaxy is safe so earth would also be safe.

[Spimman]

Sounded like he was getting orders from above, but he is smart enough to follow orders.

[IrishPisano]

being in command changes your perspective on things and your attitude

jack is no longer a field commander, he is the Chief of Homeworld Security.... (which means Earth, the SGC, ATLANTIS, Former Icarus Base, the Destiny crew, and Earth's blossoming SPACE FLEET)..... that will give you a different perspective on things


and, also, let's not forget that O'Neill was once suicidal and that the whole reason he joined Stargate Command was so that he could kill himself on Abydos with a gigantic nuke...


time changes
situations change
people change
c'est la vie

i actually would HATE to see O'Neill being in his current office while still being the maverick he was as a colonel... that would be completely unacceptable for arguably the most important military officer on the planet.

[Col. Tomorian]

Don't get me wrong I prefer General O'Neill to General Landry, but why is Jack suddenly back in charge of the SGC? Earth, Jack O'Neill Quote: "Colonel, my office"

I like having Jack in charge, but I want to know why he is being a jerk. I am beginning to hate Jack O'Neil. If this is how Jack is going to be written for now on, I might as well burn all of my Stargate dvd sets.

Pardon me while I get the fire ready.

[WishIwasJoes]

Because Jack rocks. Duh.

[Col. Tomorian]

As a matter of fact, I have made up my mind on something. If they don't fix Jack O'Neil's attitude and willingness, I'm NOT going to buy the next SG-1 movie. Period.

[Col. Tomorian]

What happened to Jack? When did he lose his backbone??

Oh, I agree with you. If this is the new direction Jack is being written, I'm not going to buy the next SG-1 movie. I did a double-take from his unwillingness to cross the line. Spineless-jerk Jack O'Neill!

I have my fire ready. If they don't change him back, I'm going to start burning the SG-1 dvd sets.

If they ever get the Stargates: Worlds released, I refuse to put any money down on that game. Since they want to stick it to the fans, I say we should stick it to the franchise.

[ttsec]

Here you go. Ya, face is always the last to go.
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Is the guy on the right Jake?

[IrishPisano]

Oh, I agree with you. If this is the new direction Jack is being written, I'm not going to buy the next SG-1 movie. I did a double-take from his unwillingness to cross the line. Spineless-jerk Jack O'Neill!

I have my fire ready. If they don't change him back, I'm going to start burning the SG-1 dvd sets.

If they ever get the Stargates: Worlds released, I refuse to put any money down on that game. Since they want to stick it to the fans, I say we should stick it to the franchise.

you obviously do not comprehend what it means to be in command

[leiasky]

I'm starting to come to the understanding that Jack because he's a rebellious sort is giving Young a great deal of rope in hopes that he'll turn out to be a great leader. The orders Jack gave Young (and Telford I assume) came from above him. Which is the President. Jack's hands were tied in some ways, but in those small ways (that I didn't really notice on first viewing) he's letting Young get away with a few more things. . . so that he (Young) can stick it to the IOA in ways that Jack can't in his current position. Jack has to play somewhat nice with the IOA being in his position. Young - doesn't.

If Jack chose Young to lead, he's got a good reason. I very badly want to see more Young and Jack interaction.

[leiasky]

On JM's blog he said this ep would explain why Carter and McKay didn't help out with the Destiny, but that was never discussed, was it? It still appears to be some random group of scientists- albeit the "best minds on earth". I guess McKay and Carter just aren't on earth, huh?

I'm guessing they're not on Earth either.

Otherwise, when Young called O'Neill in the middle of the night, he wouldn't be up doing paperwork. He'd be home in bed with Sam

[Col. Tomorian]

Man, I hated this bureaucratic junk when it was used in SG-1. I think its time to just walk away from Stargate as a whole.

Stargate is science-fiction meets mythology. Its not suppose to have a heightened sense of reality.

[IrishPisano]

Man, I hated this bureaucratic junk when it was used in SG-1. I think its time to just walk away from Stargate as a whole.

Stargate is science-fiction meets mythology. Its not suppose to have a heightened sense of reality.

i similarly disliked the NID, IOC, IOA storylines.....


but they are not, in my opinion, all that bad in SGU
either i'm used to them
or its better written

i say, give SGU a full season before deciding...

i mean, i once turned off The Godfather after 5 minutes bc it was boring
then i watched the first half hour - and found out it was f****ing awesome