Pro-civilian bias?

[The Mighty 6 platoon]

I don't see how a dictatorship under civilians is any better. In fact its quite the same

Worse actually because under the military there is a structure and there are rules. They're aren't when it comes to civilians.

[Lord Hurin]

I don't see how a dictatorship under civilians is any better. In fact its quite the same

Haven't you heard?! Military personnel are inherently untrustworthy, violent, arrogant and unfit to command.

[carmencatalina]

Dictatorships are almost always in some way military - I can't think of a single dictator that managed to stay in power without the force of the military behind him.

[Nemises]

I don't see how a dictatorship under civilians is any better. In fact its quite the same

what ?

Last i heard people could get rid of a president by not voting for him after his term finishes.

[Lord Hurin]

Dictatorships are almost always in some way military - I can't think of a single dictator that managed to stay in power without the force of the military behind him.

That's because you're thinking in terms of nations. What about on a merchant ship? What about Atlantis? Sure, they have their military/ security behind them, but they aren't military.

[Lord Hurin]

what ?

Last i heard people could get rid of a president by not voting for him after his term finishes.

Last I heard, that's far from a sure bet.

[jelgate]

what ?

Last i heard people could get rid of a president by not voting for him after his term finishes.

But that is not a dictarship. What the civilians are doing would just gone from a military dictarship to a civilian one

[carmencatalina]

That's because you're thinking in terms of nations. What about on a merchant ship? What about Atlantis? Sure, they have their military/ security behind them, but they aren't military.

What I'm trying to say is - if one person wants to keep command over a larger group of people, and those people don't want that person in command, the only way is by using force/weapons.

The better options are (1) pick a person the people do want in command, (2) have the person they don't like not in complete command. Otherwise, you are sitting there, waiting for the revolution to come.

[The Mighty 6 platoon]

Dictatorships are almost always in some way military - I can't think of a single dictator that managed to stay in power without the force of the military behind him.

Not that simple though. Having the military at least partially on side is necessary but they often resist dictatorships. In Nazi Germany it was the German Army that organised most of the assassination attempts against Hitler, German military officers leaked intelligence to the Allies, and the German army thoroughly despised the SS who were the true power in Nazi Germany.

[KEK]

But that is not a dictarship. What the civilians are doing would just gone from a military dictarship to a civilian one

To be fair, we don't really know how things would have played out.

[Nemises]

Let's use an example here, if we replace Destiny with a base in Afghanistan and 60 or so civilian contractors have to take shelter there, does the base suddenly fall under civilian control? No it remains under military command. Civilian leader with regards to the military make policy, but the military makes the orders to carry out said policy.

No you can't because:

1. US military can't re-supply on the destiny.
2. They're not on earth.

P.S A civilian president still controls the military in afghanistan...he can pull em out anytime he wants

[The Mighty 6 platoon]

No you can't because:

1. US military can't re-supply on the destiny.
2. They're not on earth.

P.S A civilian president still controls the military in afghanistan...he can pull em out anytime he wants

OK so surround the base with Taliban. They can't get out, they can't be resupplied, would they still fall under civilian control if civilians were present?

[Nemises]

But that is not a dictarship. What the civilians are doing would just gone from a military dictarship to a civilian one

"Every action has an equal and opposite reaction."

The military forced there hand and that was the only way because young doesn't listen to any civilian.

[Coronach]

OK so surround the base with Taliban. They can't get out, they can't be resupplied, would they still fall under civilian control if civilians were present?

At that moment? No, because such a situation is clearly a military emergency situation.

[Nemises]

OK so surround the base with Taliban. They can't get out, they can't be resupplied, would they still fall under civilian control if civilians were present?

Put an ancient shield around the base and the civilians can play football!