The Real GateWorld Virtual Fleet

[Andrew Joshua Talon]

Well, we'll start with the F-302s, and you guys can submit new fighter designs. The Hurricanes will be available if you want them for your ships or stories.

[boberth2o]

I was perked again and Im doing another scaling of the daedalus from the jumping coming out of the hanger bay in The Hive. Details soon

[ZakeD]

Well, we'll start with the F-302s, and you guys can submit new fighter designs. The Hurricanes will be available if you want them for your ships or stories.

If there are any other designs for an American fighter we'll vote on them..

[Andrew Joshua Talon]

If there are any other designs for an American fighter we'll vote on them..

Indeed. Any designs?

[boberth2o]

I was perked again and Im doing another scaling of the daedalus from the jumping coming out of the hanger bay in The Hive. Details soon

*Sigh*
Daedalus Scaling Numero uno

Spoiler:

Here is some scaling of the Deadalus class ships. I have been browsing the scaling threads in form and have came to a conclusion that there is no really good scaling for the ship. So I decided to do a scaling of my own, actually there are a couple different scaling from different points of the same ship. For each of the scaling I will use two ways of scaling it; coping and pasting apts of the ships to compare it to other parts of the ship, and using the pixel counts of parts of the ship.

Note: I used pictures from the episode Camelot but I and not comparing the size of the ship to the other ships. I would think that the VFX guys would no mess up the proportions of the ship itself.



In the picture it shows Sam right next to the Odyssey. Sam is about 7ft tall in the space suit is 2.6667x smaller than the front of the ship; Carter = C, Front Height Small = S, Meters = M.

S = C*2.6667

S = 7*2.6667

S = 18.546 Feet

M = S*.3048

M = 5.6388

First I got the measurement of cater in the space suit which was 24 pixels and the front with 61 pixels. The front of the X-304 is 2.5416 times larger than Carter.

S = C*2.5416

S = 7*2.5416

S = 17.79 Feet

M = S*.3048

M = 5.4227




Here I’m taking the front of the ship to the total size of the 'head' of the ship. It's 12x the size of the front making it 148ft or 45.1104 meters; Front Bottom = B.

B = S*12

B = 18.546*12

B = 222.552 Feet

M = B*.3048

M = 67.834


I used the shot of the X-304 from the side at Camelot to do the bottom length of the ship. I got 110 pixels and Front Height Small of the ship and, I got 9 pixels for the front that. The front bottom of the ship is 12.2222 times larger than Front Height Small; Front Bottom = B.

B = S*12.2222

B = 17.79*12.2222

B = 217.43 Feet

M = B*.3048

M = 66.27266




Now in the third picture I'm taking the size of the 'head' of the ship to the length. It’s 8.8182x the length of the ship; Length =L

L = B*8.8182

L = 217.43*8.8182

L = 1917.341 Feet

M = L*.3048

M = 584.406

I am using pixels now, the front bottom is 28 pixels and the length of the entire ship is 248 pixels. The front bottom is 8.857x smaller than the length.

L = B*8.857

L = 217.43*8.857

L = 1925.778 Feet

M = L*.3048

M = 586.977


I took the length of the front bottom and took it to the back of the Odyssey. 1.3334x larger; H = Height

H = B*1.3334

H = 217.43*1.3334

H = 289.9212 feet

M = H*.3048

M = 88.367

For pixels the front bottom is 28 pixels and the Height of the entire ship is 36 pixels. Its 1.2857x larger

H = B*1.2857

H = 217.43*1.2857

H = 279.549 Feet

M = H*.3048

M = 85.206




For the width I took the height at the back and compared it to the width at the back. The bottom of the back is 4.0930x the height at the back; W = Width

W = H*4.0930

W = 279.549*4.0930

W = 1144.194 Feet

M = W*.3048

M = 348.750

The pixel width in the picture is 614 pixels and the height is 151 pixels. The width is 4.0662x larger than the height.

W = H*4.0662

W = 279.549*4.0662

W = 1136.702 Feet

M = W*.3048

M = 346.467


The scale of the Deadalus class ships from the information above:

With Pixels

Length = 1925.778 Feet, 586.977 Meters
Width = 1136.702 Feet, 346.467 Meters
Height = 279.549 Feet, 85.206 Meters

With coping and pasting existing parts of the ship

Length = 1917.341 Feet, 584.406 Meters
Width = 1144.194 Feet, 348.750 Meters
Height = 289.9212 Feet, 88.367 Meters

Daedalus Scaling Numero Dos

Spoiler:

There have been many explainations in this. I used Sam Carter a measurable thing. Then there are different objections too. Why does a 304 only go into a hive ship 10.9 times. If you do the math it make the 304 about 1 kilometer as seen below, thats absurd.



Then in this pic it shows that the 304's go into a hive 11.66 times. Thats no differnet and out of the question, 943 meters.



And here the 304 is 18 times smaller than the hive. Now thats reasonable at 611 meters. I think that the specs in allies are wrong and the screenshot is correct.

Daedalus scaling Numero Tres

Spoiler:

Jaffa is 6ft tall (average), the Jaffa goes into the height of the jumper 1.3636 times.
Height of jumper = 8.1816 Feet

The height of the jumper goes into the width of the jumper 0.8498 times.
Width of jumper = 6.952 Feet

The width of the jumper goes into the hanger of the Daedalus 14.5 times
Width of hanger = 100.804 Feet

The width of the hanger goes into the width of the ship 5.5 times
Width of ship = 554.422 Feet

The width of the hanger goes into the height (front) of the ship 1.25 times
Height of the front of the ship = 126.005 Feet

The height of the front of the ship goes into the length of the ship 11.8 times
Length of the ship = 1486.8 feet
Length of the ship = 453.1766 Meters

This maked me pi$$ed. 450 meters, 585 meters, 611 meters, 1000 METERS! why dont they make up their f****** minds! omg, I cant stand the damn VFX guys anymore.

[ZakeD]

*Sigh*
Daedalus Scaling Numero uno

Spoiler:

Here is some scaling of the Deadalus class ships. I have been browsing the scaling threads in form and have came to a conclusion that there is no really good scaling for the ship. So I decided to do a scaling of my own, actually there are a couple different scaling from different points of the same ship. For each of the scaling I will use two ways of scaling it; coping and pasting apts of the ships to compare it to other parts of the ship, and using the pixel counts of parts of the ship.

Note: I used pictures from the episode Camelot but I and not comparing the size of the ship to the other ships. I would think that the VFX guys would no mess up the proportions of the ship itself.



In the picture it shows Sam right next to the Odyssey. Sam is about 7ft tall in the space suit is 2.6667x smaller than the front of the ship; Carter = C, Front Height Small = S, Meters = M.

S = C*2.6667

S = 7*2.6667

S = 18.546 Feet

M = S*.3048

M = 5.6388

First I got the measurement of cater in the space suit which was 24 pixels and the front with 61 pixels. The front of the X-304 is 2.5416 times larger than Carter.

S = C*2.5416

S = 7*2.5416

S = 17.79 Feet

M = S*.3048

M = 5.4227




Here I’m taking the front of the ship to the total size of the 'head' of the ship. It's 12x the size of the front making it 148ft or 45.1104 meters; Front Bottom = B.

B = S*12

B = 18.546*12

B = 222.552 Feet

M = B*.3048

M = 67.834


I used the shot of the X-304 from the side at Camelot to do the bottom length of the ship. I got 110 pixels and Front Height Small of the ship and, I got 9 pixels for the front that. The front bottom of the ship is 12.2222 times larger than Front Height Small; Front Bottom = B.

B = S*12.2222

B = 17.79*12.2222

B = 217.43 Feet

M = B*.3048

M = 66.27266




Now in the third picture I'm taking the size of the 'head' of the ship to the length. It’s 8.8182x the length of the ship; Length =L

L = B*8.8182

L = 217.43*8.8182

L = 1917.341 Feet

M = L*.3048

M = 584.406

I am using pixels now, the front bottom is 28 pixels and the length of the entire ship is 248 pixels. The front bottom is 8.857x smaller than the length.

L = B*8.857

L = 217.43*8.857

L = 1925.778 Feet

M = L*.3048

M = 586.977


I took the length of the front bottom and took it to the back of the Odyssey. 1.3334x larger; H = Height

H = B*1.3334

H = 217.43*1.3334

H = 289.9212 feet

M = H*.3048

M = 88.367

For pixels the front bottom is 28 pixels and the Height of the entire ship is 36 pixels. Its 1.2857x larger

H = B*1.2857

H = 217.43*1.2857

H = 279.549 Feet

M = H*.3048

M = 85.206




For the width I took the height at the back and compared it to the width at the back. The bottom of the back is 4.0930x the height at the back; W = Width

W = H*4.0930

W = 279.549*4.0930

W = 1144.194 Feet

M = W*.3048

M = 348.750

The pixel width in the picture is 614 pixels and the height is 151 pixels. The width is 4.0662x larger than the height.

W = H*4.0662

W = 279.549*4.0662

W = 1136.702 Feet

M = W*.3048

M = 346.467


The scale of the Deadalus class ships from the information above:

With Pixels

Length = 1925.778 Feet, 586.977 Meters
Width = 1136.702 Feet, 346.467 Meters
Height = 279.549 Feet, 85.206 Meters

With coping and pasting existing parts of the ship

Length = 1917.341 Feet, 584.406 Meters
Width = 1144.194 Feet, 348.750 Meters
Height = 289.9212 Feet, 88.367 Meters

Daedalus Scaling Numero Dos

Spoiler:

There have been many explainations in this. I used Sam Carter a measurable thing. Then there are different objections too. Why does a 304 only go into a hive ship 10.9 times. If you do the math it make the 304 about 1 kilometer as seen below, thats absurd.



Then in this pic it shows that the 304's go into a hive 11.66 times. Thats no differnet and out of the question, 943 meters.



And here the 304 is 18 times smaller than the hive. Now thats reasonable at 611 meters. I think that the specs in allies are wrong and the screenshot is correct.

Daedalus scaling Numero Tres

Spoiler:

Jaffa is 6ft tall (average), the Jaffa goes into the height of the jumper 1.3636 times.
Height of jumper = 8.1816 Feet

The height of the jumper goes into the width of the jumper 0.8498 times.
Width of jumper = 6.952 Feet

The width of the jumper goes into the hanger of the Daedalus 14.5 times
Width of hanger = 100.804 Feet

The width of the hanger goes into the width of the ship 5.5 times
Width of ship = 554.422 Feet

The width of the hanger goes into the height (front) of the ship 1.25 times
Height of the front of the ship = 126.005 Feet

The height of the front of the ship goes into the length of the ship 11.8 times
Length of the ship = 1486.8 feet
Length of the ship = 453.1766 Meters

This maked me pi$$ed. 450 meters, 585 meters, 611 meters, 1000 METERS! why dont they make up their f****** minds! omg, I cant stand the damn VFX guys anymore.

Dude..let's just stick with the 450.

[Col. Shadow Quinn]

Nimitz class Battleship
Type: NBC-308
Technology base: Tau'ri/Asgard
User/s: Tau'ri
Builder(s): Area 51
Production Status: Limited
Naval Classification: Battleship
Unit Run:
~Nimitz
~Roosevelt
~Hypernova
~Enterprise
Dimensions:
~Length: 486m
~Width: 136m
~Height: 96m
Displacement: 4.5 million metric tons
~Crew: 250
~Troops: 400
~Total: 650
~Emergency: 2,250
Support:
~Craft:
- F-302: 24
- Tau'ri Shuttlepod: 8
Powerplant:
~Asgard Power Core
Propulsion Systems:
~Tau'ri Sublight : 156,000mps(251,004kps)
~Asgard Intergalactic Hyperdrive: 164 LY/M
~Anti-Gravity Wave Generators
Weapons:
~155mm Railguns: 36
~DLS Missile Tubes: 16
~Ground Strike Missile System
~Mk8 Tactical Nukes: 250
~Mk9 Gatebusters: 50
~Ion Cannon: 4
Defenses:
~ Type 3 Asgard Shields
~Trinium/Titaniam Double Hull
Other Technology:
~Asgard Beaming Tech
~Ring Transporters
~Subspace Comm.
~Asgard Sensors
~Asgard Long Range Sensors
~ZPM Interface(in case a ZPM is ever placed on this ship).
~Inertial Dampeners
~Articial Gravity Generator
~Subspace Distress Beacon

Technical and Historical Notes: The Nimitz was designed for the purpose of defending earth from a number of threats to Earth. In late 2007, Area 51 started Project Nimitz to design the first ship to be prototype. In 2014, the first Nimitz class battleship were off the line and ready for shakedown time. In 2015, the shakedown cruise of the Nimitz class ships was completed. It was sent to the Alaris system to test some of the new weapons systems. The DLS missile tubes were a big success due to increased missile speed. The Ion cannons were more powerful than expected in a test against an asteroid. The ship's 1st mission was to attack a Lucian Alliance stronghold and destroy their power base. In 2019, the 4th ship of the class was finished and named the Enterprise. The Nimitz has also participated in the Battle of S4H-865 against the Jaffa who wanted to expand themselves even further.

[ZakeD]

Ooh, something I'd like to post. Let's follow naming conventions in this thread.

These are the US ones.
-Motherships: Mythological heroes (Daedalus, Perseus etc.)
-Carriers: US spacecraft (Columbia, Challenger, etc.)
-Battleships: Mythological monsters (Leviathan)
-Cruisers: Mythological places or cities
-Destroyers: Mythological figures from a wide variety of sources.
-Gunships/Frigates: Friendly peoples or planets the SGC has encountered
-Support ships: Famous US military operations and/or ships.

[ZakeD]

Nimitz class Battleship
Type: NBC-308
Technology base: Tau'ri/Asgard
User/s: Tau'ri
Builder(s): Area 51
Production Status: Limited
Naval Classification: Battleship
Unit Run:
~Nimitz
~Roosevelt
~Hypernova
~Enterprise
Dimensions:
~Length: 486m
~Width: 136m
~Height: 96m
Displacement: 4.5 million metric tons
~Crew: 250
~Troops: 400
~Total: 650
~Emergency: 2,250
Support:
~Craft:
- F-302: 24
- Tau'ri Shuttlepod: 8
Powerplant: Asgard Reactor
Propulsion Systems:
~Tau'ri Sublight : 156,000mps(251,004kps)
~Asgard Intergalactic Hyperdrive: 164 LY/M
~Anti-Gravity Wave Generators
Weapons:
~75mm Railguns: 36
~DLS Missile Tubes: 16
~Mk8 Tactical Nukes: 250
~Mk9 Gatebusters: 50
~Ion Cannon: 4
Defenses:
~Asgard Shields
~Trinium/Titaniam Double Hull
Other Technology:
~Asgard Beaming Tech
~Ring Transporters
~Subspace Comm.
~Asgard Sensors
~Asgard Long Range Sensors
~ZPM Interface(in case a ZPM is ever placed on this ship).
~Inertial Dampeners
~Articial Gravity Generator
~Subspace Distress Beacon

Technical and Historical Notes: The Nimitz was designed for the purpose of defending earth from a number of threats to Earth. In late 2007, Area 51 started Project Nimitz to design the first ship to be prototype. In 2014, the first Nimitz class battleship were off the line and ready for shakedown time. In 2015, the shakedown cruise of the Nimitz class ships was completed. It was sent to the Alaris system to test some of the new weapons systems. The DLS missile tubes were a big success due to increased missile speed. The Ion cannons were more powerful than expected in a test against an asteroid. The ship's 1st mission was to attack a Lucian Alliance stronghold and destroy their power base. In 2019, the 4th ship of the class was finished and named the Enterprise.

Looks alright to me. Take of the Asgard reactor, reduce the number of mark 9s and..I'm pretty sure we are going to have plasma cannons in this one. It would be cool if you could have it follow the naming conventions.

[boberth2o]

Dude..let's just stick with the 450.

I think we should stay with 585 cuz the rainmaker dude said that it was close

[boberth2o]

Spoiler:

Nimitz class Battleship
Type: NBC-308
Technology base: Tau'ri/Asgard
User/s: Tau'ri
Builder(s): Area 51
Production Status: Limited
Naval Classification: Battleship
Unit Run:
~Nimitz
~Roosevelt
~Hypernova
~Enterprise
Dimensions:
~Length: 486m
~Width: 136m
~Height: 96m
Displacement: 4.5 million metric tons
~Crew: 250
~Troops: 400
~Total: 650
~Emergency: 2,250
Support:
~Craft:
- F-302: 24
- Tau'ri Shuttlepod: 8
Powerplant: Asgard Reactor
Propulsion Systems:
~Tau'ri Sublight : 156,000mps(251,004kps)
~Asgard Intergalactic Hyperdrive: 164 LY/M
~Anti-Gravity Wave Generators
Weapons:
~75mm Railguns: 36
~DLS Missile Tubes: 16
~Mk8 Tactical Nukes: 250
~Mk9 Gatebusters: 50
~Ion Cannon: 4
Defenses:
~Asgard Shields
~Trinium/Titaniam Double Hull
Other Technology:
~Asgard Beaming Tech
~Ring Transporters
~Subspace Comm.
~Asgard Sensors
~Asgard Long Range Sensors
~ZPM Interface(in case a ZPM is ever placed on this ship).
~Inertial Dampeners
~Articial Gravity Generator
~Subspace Distress Beacon

Technical and Historical Notes: The Nimitz was designed for the purpose of defending earth from a number of threats to Earth. In late 2007, Area 51 started Project Nimitz to design the first ship to be prototype. In 2014, the first Nimitz class battleship were off the line and ready for shakedown time. In 2015, the shakedown cruise of the Nimitz class ships was completed. It was sent to the Alaris system to test some of the new weapons systems. The DLS missile tubes were a big success due to increased missile speed. The Ion cannons were more powerful than expected in a test against an asteroid. The ship's 1st mission was to attack a Lucian Alliance stronghold and destroy their power base. In 2019, the 4th ship of the class was finished and named the Enterprise.

What are the Shuttlepods? Like some escape ship or somethin. to many mark 8's also

[ZakeD]

What are the Shuttlepods? Like some escape ship or somethin. to many mark 8's also

Yeah, there are too many mark 8s.

[CouchPotator]

What is the timeline for this fleet? And how do we fight an alien race that we haven't encontered directly (if that is indeed who we fight). Also, we have ships with beaming technology that can beam up a building, surly they could beam up water to put out the fires of London and prevent half of the city from being destroyed.

[ZakeD]

What is the timeline for this fleet? And how do we fight an alien race that we haven't encontered directly (if that is indeed who we fight). Also, we have ships with beaming technology that can beam up a building, surly they could beam up water to put out the fires of London and prevent half of the city from being destroyed.

What do you mean the timeline..? What dates do you need to know? And we are going to encounter them eventually. Right now we're just getting some ships and stuff set up. As for the fire thing..that's not really a big deal and can be edited if it's really necessary.

[Col. Shadow Quinn]

What are the Shuttlepods? Like some escape ship or somethin. to many mark 8's also

Yeah, there are too many mark 8s.

Shuttlepods are basically like Star Trek Enterprise's Shuttlepods. The starndard DSC-304 can hold anywhere from 50-250 Mk8 Tacticals.

Here is the Ancient Proxima Class Battlecruiser: Proxima Class Battlecruiser