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Originally posted by ErisedI'll have to disagree. Elizabeth did not seem to be a girl who went to get her crush back home. She displayed bravery by going on a planet herself and get her all of her men back.
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I liked Siege 3, and Duet as my favs. Duet wasn't sparky, but I really enjoyed it.
The worst: same as above.
Most lost potential:
Conversion - SHOULD have been a Shep-centric episode. Everyone thought he was losing his humanity and we should have seen something of him looking through his personal stuff, talking with his team/friends about his family, what he was proud of, what he should have done with his life. Instead we got "all about Weir". I liked the episode, but I could have "loved" it if it went a different way.
Long Goodbye - I "liked" it, but for 3/4 of the episode we got Weir trying to hunt down Shep, and suddenly she locks herself in a room and wants someone else to kill him while she watches on a TV screen. Why the change? After all that chasing, there should have been a face-to-face resolution that answered some questions - where they really married? Who were they anyway?. Instead we get a plot device so Shep can declare he likes Teyla. It ruined the episode. If TPTB wanted Shep to "declare" anything, it should have been in a different episode.
When all else fails, change channels.
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Sorry. I guess we'll have to agree to desagree then because that's the reason among with the general lameness (is this a word?) that makes me hate this episode to my guts. She seamed sorta weak in my eyes different from Siege and Conversion. I really think I'm gonna like Critical Mass tough by the spoilers in this thread, it'll be on next week.Awesome sig made by *E*K*R*. Thanks!!!!!
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Originally posted by FoolishPleasureLong Goodbye - I "liked" it, but for 3/4 of the episode we got Weir trying to hunt down Shep, and suddenly she locks herself in a room and wants someone else to kill him while she watches on a TV screen. Why the change? After all that chasing, there should have been a face-to-face resolution that answered some questions - where they really married? Who were they anyway?. Instead we get a plot device so Shep can declare he likes Teyla. It ruined the episode. If TPTB wanted Shep to "declare" anything, it should have been in a different episode.Spoiler:when they're talking to each other through the radio, Phoebus said something like "it that any way to talk to your wife. The others weren't there, and even if she knew they were listening, wh saying that. Not to keep the pretence up 'cos she told Rodney and Carson the truth. So what if it was true? What if the two of them were married or at least in a relationshîp and were like the Romeo and Juliet of the Pegasus Galaxy?
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Originally posted by Atlantean_FanSorry. I guess we'll have to agree to desagree then because that's the reason among with the general lameness (is this a word?) that makes me hate this episode to my guts. She seamed sorta weak in my eyes different from Siege and Conversion. I really think I'm gonna like Critical Mass tough by the spoilers in this thread, it'll be on next week.the best formular
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I forgot to mention Coup d'etat. Great episode.
Originally posted by Atlantean_FanSorry, but Weir crossed me as needy and clingy in that episode most of the time, expect that one scene with the Magistrate in the planet. That scene did not by itself saved this piece of crap for me. Totally bad episode all around. Weir was a much better character and made me happy as a viewer in Conversion tough, that is my idea of an overall strong woman, not a girl on a crush that's desperate to get her boy home like in Condemned.
Spoiler:That's interesting because for me it was the opposite. In Condemned I saw a woman willing to go to another (potentially hostile) planet to negotiate the release of "her man" and the rest of his team. The thing that bothered me most about that episode, actually, was that caricature of a bad guy on the prison colony. He must have had a PhD in Psychology because he seemed to know everything about McKay the second he met him... That, or someone was feeding him lines. Not to mention the Wraith happened to show up precisely the day our heroes were on the planet... Crap writing, I agree.
Conversion? I refuse to believe she'd enter the room of her physically mutated 2IC who could have snapped her neck like a twig. As much as I loved that scene for its obvious Sparky implications I think it was reckless of her to do that, not to mention an easy way out for the writers to show her feelings for Shep.
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Originally posted by VickyAbout the 'were they really married' part, I've watched it again yesterday andSpoiler:when they're talking to each other through the radio, Phoebus said something like "it that any way to talk to your wife. The others weren't there, and even if she knew they were listening, wh saying that. Not to keep the pretence up 'cos she told Rodney and Carson the truth. So what if it was true? What if the two of them were married or at least in a relationshîp and were like the Romeo and Juliet of the Pegasus Galaxy?
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Originally posted by gooner_divaI forgot to mention Coup d'etat. Great episode.
Condemned & Conversion spoilers:
Spoiler:That's interesting because for me it was the opposite. In Condemned I saw a woman willing to go to another (potentially hostile) planet to negotiate the release of "her man" and the rest of his team. The thing that bothered me most about that episode, actually, was that caricature of a bad guy on the prison colony. He must have had a PhD in Psychology because he seemed to know everything about McKay the second he met him... That, or someone was feeding him lines. Not to mention the Wraith happened to show up precisely the day our heroes were on the planet... Crap writing, I agree.
Spoiler:the man knew rodney so well and had only just meet him i mean im studying psycology and i can pick up quite a few things because i watch him every week but how he new staight away is kind of scary really lol
but to keep to the piont i agree with u about Elizabeth as well and its a very good sparky episodethe best formular
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Originally posted by VickyPhoebus said something like "it that any way to talk to your wife.
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Originally posted by FoolishPleasureShe knew what Weir knew, so I felt she was aware everyone was listening in on their convos. Weir would have done so if Phoebus had been in someone else. I just wanted to know more about Phoebus and Thalan and what their "argument" was all about.the best formular
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Originally posted by gooner_divaI forgot to mention Coup d'etat. Great episode.
Condemned & Conversion spoilers:
Spoiler:That's interesting because for me it was the opposite. In Condemned I saw a woman willing to go to another (potentially hostile) planet to negotiate the release of "her man" and the rest of his team. The thing that bothered me most about that episode, actually, was that caricature of a bad guy on the prison colony. He must have had a PhD in Psychology because he seemed to know everything about McKay the second he met him... That, or someone was feeding him lines. Not to mention the Wraith happened to show up precisely the day our heroes were on the planet... Crap writing, I agree.
Conversion? I refuse to believe she'd enter the room of her physically mutated 2IC who could have snapped her neck like a twig. As much as I loved that scene for its obvious Sparky implications I think it was reckless of her to do that, not to mention an easy way out for the writers to show her feelings for Shep.
Spoiler:Yeah, but she was willing to let him die for the greater good of Atlantis and not to get anyone else killed.Awesome sig made by *E*K*R*. Thanks!!!!!
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Originally posted by true_romancei agree must of been a huge argument gets u wonderingLast edited by FoolishPleasure; 02 May 2006, 10:38 AM.
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Originally posted by Atlantean_FanIn Condemned, she just seemed like she had to do, not because it was for the best like Conversion, but because she wanted so for personal reasons. That is my greatest complaint towards this episode, along with the rest of the crap !!!!
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