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**Scary Kitty** · 07 May 2011, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by TheLadyMore View Post

Elizabeth looks lie a deer in headlights

Ahem. You had better not be dissing our Lizzeh. There's going to be trouble if you are.

Originally posted by JT-2 View Post

Yes I can definitely see the John/Darcy comparison. And man, if Colin Firth and Joe were ever on screen together, fangirls would explode in squee!

It'd be a second Big Bang.

Originally posted by Southern Red View Post

I love the "pansy wannabes" too. Almost as much as "treehuggy". I think he said that in TOR too. I may be wrong. Anyway, he said it. Those sounded so very Joeish. I wonder how much input he had sometimes.

Gotta go. We're cooking fajitas. Only a couple of days late for Cinco de Mayo.

I just love those cute little Joe-ish one-liners that John always got.

Fajitas! Yum!

Originally posted by JT-2 View Post

"Tree huggy" was in Echoes. It was explaining the stuff the Ancients were trying to do in the bio-lab. Ok it's probably sad that I know that off the top of my head.

Ooooh fajitas! Yum! Enjoy!

Naw, it's not sad. You're just a committed fan.

**Falcon Horus** · 07 May 2011, 12:56 PM

Putting in my 0.5 cent into Sparky moments:

Spoiler:

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Originally posted by Southern Red View Post

And she never tried to force him to talk about his feelings or put words in his mouth.

Hey, is that a stab in the direction of Teyla talking to John in Sateda?

That scene was hilarious. Teyla looking adorably cute, pulling all sorts of funny faces, trying to be helpful. And John working his way through awkward feelings.

Originally posted by JT-2 View Post

I get aggravated when movies completely disregard history. I understand changing a few things around, but when they completely ignore fact then I get annoyed.

Gladiator f.e. did a good number of turning history upside down...

Originally posted by Southern Red View Post

We're cooking fajitas. Only a couple of days late for Cinco de Mayo.

Mmmm.... fajitas....

I recently learned what that is, and yummy... good!

**Anuna** · 07 May 2011, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by Falcon Horus View Post

Putting in my 0.5 cent into Sparky moments:

Spoiler:

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Hey, is that a stab in the direction of Teyla talking to John in Sateda?

That scene was hilarious. Teyla looking adorably cute, pulling all sorts of funny faces, trying to be helpful. And John working his way through awkward feelings.

Gladiator f.e. did a good number of turning history upside down...

Mmmm.... fajitas....

I recently learned what that is, and yummy... good!

I simply can't allow our lemming to be sad. The scene in Sateda felt slightly awkward to me. I think it would be much better if that same conversation happened earlier in the show - whoever wrote the dialogue seemed to have completely forgotten that Teyla is supposed to know John very well. Perhaps she's spent even more time with him than Elizabeth, ebcause she was on all those off world missions, almost every time? I blame the low quality of writing for this.

Their conversation(s) in Quarantine are what their relationship should have been from S2 onward. or, think Mal and Zoe from Firefly. So yeah, the Sateda scene feels a little awkward, but maybe that was Teyla's attempt to say it all straight out to John, because it was about him not leaving behind Ronon, and she wanted him to know how much she appreciated it, that he was ready to do this for every one of them. She wanted it spelled out, but I guess John wasn't ready to hear it right then and there.

**Falcon Horus** · 07 May 2011, 01:58 PM

Maybe Teyla was a little confused on why he would hide his feelings... *shrug*

By that I could possibly be thinking about how the Athosians lived under the thread of the Wraith, which if they ever doubted themselves and not say what they mean, there could be no other chance to do so. Seeing as how natural death is a rare occurance...

Although, on second thought... possibly indeed another one those fail-moments on the writers' part.

**TheLadyMore** · 07 May 2011, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by Southern Red View Post

*puts tongue firmly in cheek* Looking at him will do that to you.

The Sheppard effect? Oh yeah I would be like that too if someone as handsome him saved me from the big bad Kolya. At least she doesnt faint like the girls do in Bye Bye Birdie Liz is too cool and too classy for that. Enjoy your fajitas.

And to SK, just to clarify I wasnt dissing Lizzie, I was being funny, I admire Liz too much.

**JT-2** · 07 May 2011, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by Falcon Horus View Post

Putting in my 0.5 cent into Sparky moments:

Spoiler:

***//***

Hey, is that a stab in the direction of Teyla talking to John in Sateda?

That scene was hilarious. Teyla looking adorably cute, pulling all sorts of funny faces, trying to be helpful. And John working his way through awkward feelings.

Gladiator f.e. did a good number of turning history upside down...

Mmmm.... fajitas....

I recently learned what that is, and yummy... good!

Oh little lemming, you are highly amusing!!

And just cause I feel like it. Woobie!John:

**Southern Red** · 07 May 2011, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by JT-2 View Post

"Tree huggy" was in Echoes. It was explaining the stuff the Ancients were trying to do in the bio-lab. Ok it's probably sad that I know that off the top of my head.

Ooooh fajitas! Yum! Enjoy!

I'm surprised I didn't remember that considering Echoes is my second favorite.

Originally posted by Anuna View Post

I simply can't allow our lemming to be sad. The scene in Sateda felt slightly awkward to me. I think it would be much better if that same conversation happened earlier in the show - whoever wrote the dialogue seemed to have completely forgotten that Teyla is supposed to know John very well. Perhaps she's spent even more time with him than Elizabeth, ebcause she was on all those off world missions, almost every time? I blame the low quality of writing for this.

Their conversation(s) in Quarantine are what their relationship should have been from S2 onward. or, think Mal and Zoe from Firefly. So yeah, the Sateda scene feels a little awkward, but maybe that was Teyla's attempt to say it all straight out to John, because it was about him not leaving behind Ronon, and she wanted him to know how much she appreciated it, that he was ready to do this for every one of them. She wanted it spelled out, but I guess John wasn't ready to hear it right then and there.

Thanks for explaining that. No criticism of Teyla, but it does seem like she should have known he wouldn't hesitate to save Ronon. And she was definitely confused as to why he didn't just say what he felt. You'd think, if they spent any time together at all, she'd know him better.

Originally posted by Falcon Horus View Post

Maybe Teyla was a little confused on why he would hide his feelings... *shrug*

By that I could possibly be thinking about how the Athosians lived under the thread of the Wraith, which if they ever doubted themselves and not say what they mean, there could be no other chance to do so. Seeing as how natural death is a rare occurance...

Although, on second thought... possibly indeed another one those fail-moments on the writers' part.

Definitely the writers fault. They tried so hard to be clever, they ended up writing her OOC.

**Scary Kitty** · 07 May 2011, 05:16 PM

Re: that scene in Sateda... What struck me most about it were 1) John's obvious discomfort in giving voice to his feelings and 2) Teyla's surprise and gratitude that the expedition was going as far as they were to get Ronon back safely. John's reaction didn't surprise me so much, as we've seen hints of his emotional isolation before, but Teyla's reaction did surprise me a bit. as she's seen them take action before (hello, Rising, anyone?). I chalk it up to bad writing, as well.

**JT-2** · 07 May 2011, 06:47 PM

I just finished my rewatch of Lifeline. Wow, the Sparky eye!sex is amazing in this one. Before the boys leave the jumper, John and Elizabeth stare at each other for 9 straight seconds with no dialogue to even support the prolonged gaze.

**TheLadyMore** · 07 May 2011, 07:11 PM

Speaking of Eye!Sex

**mandogater** · 07 May 2011, 08:49 PM

Happy Mother's Day!!!

**Falcon Horus** · 08 May 2011, 02:52 AM

Originally posted by JT-2 View Post

Oh little lemming, you are highly amusing!!

When Kate's not watching...

Originally posted by Scary Kitty View Post

...but Teyla's reaction did surprise me a bit. as she's seen them take action before (hello, Rising, anyone?). I chalk it up to bad writing, as well.

In Rising, might I add, the team went back to get their people back, not necessarily the Athosians. They just came with the package as you can't just go about freeing one set of people and leave the rest to die. John was trying to make friends so it was a given at the time (but then the Athosians wouldn't know yet) that he would free them just as much as his own.

We don't leave our people behind - I can imagine that Teyla wouldn't include her or Ronon in that.

**Lt.Colonel John Sheppard** · 08 May 2011, 04:02 AM

just heard this song on the radio and made me think of sparky. especially from the different point of views coming from John and Elizabeth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBrkKqns-3Y

here are the lyrics

Spoiler:

**Falcon Horus** · 08 May 2011, 04:17 AM

I booked my tickets for Halfway!!!

**Lt.Colonel John Sheppard** · 08 May 2011, 04:19 AM

Originally posted by mandogater View Post

Happy Mother's Day!!!

makes ya wonder if John makes a trip to his mother's grave and to see Elizabeth's Mother just to see how she was doing.

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