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(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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Originally posted by TheLadyMore View PostToo bad they killed him, we could have gotten more Sparky.(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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Adding onto my Kolya is a Sparky Shipper Joke I couldn't resist after seeing these screencaps:
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Sheppard: And why did you Kidnap Me?
Kolya: I wan't some Sparky Action! I know if I intervene and torture you I will get some Sparky!
Sheppard: You Kidnapped me over Sparky....Wait....what's Sparky?
Kolya: *rolls eyes* You and Elizabeth Colonel.
Sheppard: So you are kidnapping me to set me up with Elizabeth...who are you....Yenta?BALCONIES
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Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostHeck, we still got more Sparky even after they "killed" him... let's not forget how in Season 5's "Remnants," not!Kolya was taunting Sheppard about all of his past failures, how he couldn't even protect his people. Originally, there was going to be a line where Kolya specifically mentioned how Sheppard let Weir slip through his fingers, but it had to be cut because the script was running long. But it was there. Sparky wins again.
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Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostHah! And now you've got me wondering what John and Elizabeth would order if they walked into a Chipotle for lunch.). Elizabeth, being proper, would've gotten a burrito bowl, either vegetarian or maybe chicken (see above pollo comment).
And, SK, I'm running away now because I HAD CHIPOTLE FOR LUNCH!!! ... It was sooooo good!
It's going to be on Fox, so you don't need cable to watch it. Just an antenna. And lots of chocolate.
Oh, I don't mind seeing him bruised and beaten. After all, it gives Elizabeth a chance to play doctor... you know, cleaning and bandaging his wounds, kissing it to make it all better, that sort of thing...
Originally posted by Southern Red View PostDeal. I like him dirty and sweaty but not bruised and beaten. Especially if it leads to showering with Elizabeth.
Ooh, thanks. Now I can't stop thinking of Mechanic!John ... whoever he is.
Originally posted by Anuna View PostThat sounds like a prompt. I wish my life wasn't THIS HECTIC. *goes crazy*
Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostHeck, we still got more Sparky even after they "killed" him... let's not forget how in Season 5's "Remnants," not!Kolya was taunting Sheppard about all of his past failures, how he couldn't even protect his people. Originally, there was going to be a line where Kolya specifically mentioned how Sheppard let Weir slip through his fingers, but it had to be cut because the script was running long. But it was there. Sparky wins again.
Originally posted by TheLadyMore View PostAdding onto my Kolya is a Sparky Shipper Joke I couldn't resist after seeing these screencaps:
Part 1
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l319/ChevronOne/episodes/atlantis-s03/s03e07-CommonGround/121.jpg[/IMG]
Sheppard: And why did you Kidnap Me?
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l319/ChevronOne/episodes/atlantis-s03/s03e07-CommonGround/123.jpg[/IMG]
Kolya: I wan't some Sparky Action! I know if I intervene and torture you I will get some Sparky!
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l319/ChevronOne/episodes/atlantis-s03/s03e07-CommonGround/127.jpg[/IMG]
Sheppard: You Kidnapped me over Sparky....Wait....what's Sparky?
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l319/ChevronOne/episodes/atlantis-s03/s03e07-CommonGround/128.jpg[/IMG]
Kolya: *rolls eyes* You and Elizabeth Colonel.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l319/ChevronOne/episodes/atlantis-s03/s03e07-CommonGround/121.jpg[/IMG]
Sheppard: So you are kidnapping me to set me up with Elizabeth...who are you....Yenta?
Originally posted by Southern Red View PostAnd that scene is canon baby. I also wish they had left in the part about John's mother. We never got one single thing about her. I'm thinking since he is so thoughtful of others (the way he treated Jeannie comes to mind) that she must have been really special and a very strong woman who influenced him more than all his father's blustering.
Now, for a little shameless self promotion:
My 20th fic, On The Other Side, is up at FF.net. This is the Sparky dream inspired fic, and because the events of this chapter is what I had the dream about, the first chapter, prologue, whatever, isn't written yet. But it will be soon. Not really sure where this one's gonna go. We'll see!
Gotta go pay some bills, still around ...
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Glad you enjoyed my dear Shipper. Unfortunately I am writing a passage about Sparky which is sad, what happens it mentions that Sparky was together, but the events of Common Ground causes the two to break up because she is so afraid her love will kill him, poor Sparky, I shall post a passage to my Sparky Folk to read though it will cause tears.BALCONIES
The Breeding Ground of Ships.
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Originally posted by TheLadyMore View PostGlad you enjoyed my dear Shipper. Unfortunately I am writing a passage about Sparky which is sad, what happens it mentions that Sparky was together, but the events of Common Ground causes the two to break up because she is so afraid her love will kill him, poor Sparky, I shall post a passage to my Sparky Folk to read though it will cause tears.
Well, probably should be off to bed ... or working on my stories, at least, before the bunnies try to kill me. Again.
Night!
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Originally posted by Southern Red View PostAnd that scene is canon baby. I also wish they had left in the part about John's mother. We never got one single thing about her. I'm thinking since he is so thoughtful of others (the way he treated Jeannie comes to mind) that she must have been really special and a very strong woman who influenced him more than all his father's blustering.
Originally posted by ShipperWriter View PostDefinitely guacamole and chips, I'll say that much! My guess, John would've gotten a burrito, probably steak, because they don't have turkey and chicken is too girly (I love chicken, BTW). Elizabeth, being proper, would've gotten a burrito bowl, either vegetarian or maybe chicken (see above pollo comment).
Originally posted by ShipperWriter View PostAnd, SK, I'm running away now because I HAD CHIPOTLE FOR LUNCH!!! ... It was sooooo good!
Originally posted by ShipperWriter View Post*has guttery image float through head*
Ooh, thanks. Now I can't stop thinking of Mechanic!John ... whoever he is.
The Fine Art of Jumper Repair, written by our very own Southern Red!
Originally posted by ShipperWriter View PostNow, for a little shameless self promotion:
My 20th fic, On The Other Side, is up at FF.net. This is the Sparky dream inspired fic, and because the events of this chapter is what I had the dream about, the first chapter, prologue, whatever, isn't written yet. But it will be soon. Not really sure where this one's gonna go. We'll see!
Gotta go pay some bills, still around ...
Originally posted by TheLadyMore View PostGlad you enjoyed my dear Shipper. Unfortunately I am writing a passage about Sparky which is sad, what happens it mentions that Sparky was together, but the events of Common Ground causes the two to break up because she is so afraid her love will kill him, poor Sparky, I shall post a passage to my Sparky Folk to read though it will cause tears.(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostI *wibbles* Oh no! I hope it'll have a happy ending! 'Cause it's never fun to see John cry...BALCONIES
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Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostI wish they'd left in the part about John's mother, too? Hey, do you think we should include that in Atlantis Rising?I prefer that we keep with the simple canon story of his overbearing, controlling father. That is enough drama and doesn't need any embellishment. But we need to work in how his mom reacted and what effect it had on young John. I also prefer to let his father be a good man who was just misguided. My canon source for that opinion was Dave's statement that their dad had changed his mind and wanted to mend things with John. I see him as feeling guilty, softening in his old age and wanting to see his son before he died. He died relatively young at 69 so he may have thought there would be more time.
Now I'm off to read Shipper's new fic.
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Originally posted by Southern Red View PostI've been thinking about that too. I'll have to go and review what we've said about John's background. But we definitely need to work in something about his mom. Without it being a soap opera that turns the readers off.I prefer that we keep with the simple canon story of his overbearing, controlling father. That is enough drama and doesn't need any embellishment. But we need to work in how his mom reacted and what effect it had on young John. I also prefer to let his father be a good man who was just misguided. My canon source for that opinion was Dave's statement that their dad had changed his mind and wanted to mend things with John. I see him as feeling guilty, softening in his old age and wanting to see his son before he died. He died relatively young at 69 so he may have thought there would be more time.
Thanks for that. It's one of my favorites of my own. Now I guess I need to write that shower scene. Aaarrrggghhh! No time. Why do these pesky bunnies pop up at such inconvenient times?
Now I'm off to read Shipper's new fic.
But I think Anuna was going to broach at least the feelings of loss and turmoil that arose in John from losing his Mom in Gravity, right? Without getting too specific into details?Visit SGArising.com to read our virtual continuation of the Atlantis series!
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Originally posted by Eri13 View PostI'm with you on the canon about his Mom. We don't have much on her--not even how she died or why, or how old John actually was--and I get a little antsy about trying to put a huge new plot behind it (especially something as traumatic for a child/young man as the death of a parent).
But I think Anuna was going to broach at least the feelings of loss and turmoil that arose in John from losing his Mom in Gravity, right? Without getting too specific into details?pulling whole new backgrounds out of orifacesinventing background stories not based on canon evidence for any of them. I'd rather just leave it vague or do a sketchy bit that won't alarm anyone or turn off fans. I mean why is it really necessary to go into elaborate detail? We have a story to tell with action and suspense and humor and can enhance it with relationship bits between the characters without making it a soap opera. I'm sure Anuna will treat John with the utmost respect and stay true to his character. As will we all. *nods*
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Good morning, Sparkies! Happy Screw the Angst Wednesday!
Originally posted by Southern Red View PostI've been thinking about that too. I'll have to go and review what we've said about John's background. But we definitely need to work in something about his mom. Without it being a soap opera that turns the readers off.I prefer that we keep with the simple canon story of his overbearing, controlling father. That is enough drama and doesn't need any embellishment. But we need to work in how his mom reacted and what effect it had on young John. I also prefer to let his father be a good man who was just misguided. My canon source for that opinion was Dave's statement that their dad had changed his mind and wanted to mend things with John. I see him as feeling guilty, softening in his old age and wanting to see his son before he died. He died relatively young at 69 so he may have thought there would be more time.
From what we learned in "Outcast," Patrick Sheppard struck me as someone who wanted the best for his sons (as any good parent would) and had the means to make it happen, but lost sight of the fact that John and Dave were their own men and might have their own ideas about what they'd want to do with their lives. I really wish we'd gotten to see that conversation between John and Dave at the end of the episode... who knows what insights we might have gotten?
Originally posted by Southern Red View PostThanks for that. It's one of my favorites of my own. Now I guess I need to write that shower scene. Aaarrrggghhh! No time. Why do these pesky bunnies pop up at such inconvenient times?
Originally posted by Eri13 View PostI'm with you on the canon about his Mom. We don't have much on her--not even how she died or why, or how old John actually was--and I get a little antsy about trying to put a huge new plot behind it (especially something as traumatic for a child/young man as the death of a parent).
But I think Anuna was going to broach at least the feelings of loss and turmoil that arose in John from losing his Mom in Gravity, right? Without getting too specific into details?(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostGood morning, Sparkies! Happy Screw the Angst Wednesday!BALCONIES
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