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Originally posted by Agent_DarkSorry, im just gonna take something from the sam thread in here, so we dont derail the sam thread again :|
No offence, but all it shows is that people here on this forum have voted for Sam. Go to another forum and you could get a completely different result.
I also think that thread has lost any significance it once had. It seems to have turned into a 'if you are a fan of Sam, vote for her. If you are a fan of Mitchell, vote for him'. I dunno if its just me, or if I'm reading too much into it, but that thread seems to give off a 'you are less of a Sam fan, if at all, if you like Mitchell in charge' kinda vibe.
I also dont understand the need to get it to the magical 500 votes? Its not like its a race or anything... Also, though I haven't exactly been keeping track, the percentages haven't really changed much. You may well get 500 votes for Sam in charge, but what difference does 500 mean over 480 if its still only 65% of the vote?
not MANY sam fans that want mitchell in charge, but a few. on the other hand, there simply aren't as many people (here, willing to debate) that want mitchell in charge (fact,nom). yes, i pimp the poll in sam/shipper/anti-s9 threads, but not because i think EVERYONE will vote for her, just because MORE people will vote for her then if i posted it in say the BB thunk thread. i think that's a pretty straight forward probablity. didn't mean to offend anyone.
as to why 500? dunno. i like 500. its a nice number. reminds me of 200. why do i like 200? not sure. but 500 reminds me of 200. don't really care about the percent. but like the number 500. course, once we hit that it'll go OVER 500, and then i won't be quite as happy no more. though it does mean more than 500 (of 10 million) want sam as CO. that's a whopping 0.005%. yay CO!Sam!
i don't think it makes you a worse sam fan if you don't want her as CO. there are people that like sam and think she's better as 2IC (for which i have my own argument and shall not subject you to now). it does annoy me when people say "mitchell. because he's better." or "because he's a guy" (THAT one really annoys me). but "sam. because she's better/a woman" also annoys me (though, granted, not quite as much).
ANYWAY. didn't think you were gonna get that for you post, eh?sigpic
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Originally posted by Agent_Darkyeah, I wasnt accusing anyone of deliberatly doing the 'if you like Sam, you have to want her in charge' vibe, but I just can't help get that impression when the whole debate is taken as a whole. Just something that rankles me I guess.
on a complete and utter side note, i love the word rankle. its just fun to say.
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rankle rankle rankle
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good lord i feel like a 4 year old.
well, its well past my bed time and i'm in the mood for warm milk.sigpic
"Out of the Abyss" (SJ Angst)....................Best New Author.................."Else Close the Wall Up" (Sam)
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Originally posted by ParadoxRealitieswhich is what i get with the "if you don't want mitchell in charge and think he's the best thing since sliced bread you hate mitchell and new!better!show (although both are true for me), are not a true fan and should get your arse off this forum."
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Originally posted by Agent_DarkSorry, im just gonna take something from the sam thread in here, so we dont derail the sam thread again :|
No offence, but all it shows is that people here on this forum have voted for Sam. Go to another forum and you could get a completely different result.
I also think that thread has lost any significance it once had. It seems to have turned into a 'if you are a fan of Sam, vote for her. If you are a fan of Mitchell, vote for him'. I dunno if its just me, or if I'm reading too much into it, but that thread seems to give off a 'you are less of a Sam fan, if at all, if you like Mitchell in charge' kinda vibe.
I also dont understand the need to get it to the magical 500 votes? Its not like its a race or anything... Also, though I haven't exactly been keeping track, the percentages haven't really changed much. You may well get 500 votes for Sam in charge, but what difference does 500 mean over 480 if its still only 65% of the vote?
It's possible the some of those who voted for Sam may prefer Mitchell as a character, even as a leader but voted for Sam because they saw her as having been unfairly cheated of command.
Had Sam been in charge on the show, some of those who voted for her on the poll might have voted for Mitchell instead if they thought that he needed the leadership role to carve out a niche for himself in the show.
On the other hand, some of those who voted for Mitchell might not have voted for him had he never been leader in the first place.
As far as 500 votes goes, I'd rather see the percentage rise even though I know that the poll doesn't really prove anything besides the fact that the majority of the seven hundred-odd people who voted felt that Sam should be in command - I just like to see Sam win stuff.
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Originally posted by ReganXThe way the poll is structured, it only asks who somebody thinks should be in charge, it's not even specifically who they think would be a better leader.
It's possible the some of those who voted for Sam may prefer Mitchell as a character, even as a leader but voted for Sam because they saw her as having been unfairly cheated of command.
Had Sam been in charge on the show, some of those who voted for her on the poll might have voted for Mitchell instead if they thought that he needed the leadership role to carve out a niche for himself in the show.
On the other hand, some of those who voted for Mitchell might not have voted for him had he never been leader in the first place.
As far as 500 votes goes, I'd rather see the percentage rise even though I know that the poll doesn't really prove anything besides the fact that the majority of the seven hundred-odd people who voted felt that Sam should be in command - I just like to see Sam win stuff.
and i'm with regan. just like to see sam win stuff.
though the number 500? its a good number. nice. reminds me of 200. which is also nice.sigpic
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500 would be nice, but I think 65% is somewhat telling (at least as far as fans on GW go). If you take out the votes for Teal'c and Daniel, the percent who think Sam should be in charge is larger. (of course if the vote went the other way I'd probably say, "don't listen to crackpots online")
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more whining time.
i was catching up on some reading of 'entertainment weekly' magazines. in the tv section, they always highlight 'their' picks of must see television. i used to always look for stargate sg1... not anymore. i *don't* want to see them highlight it, because - and this is hard to admit - it doesn't deserve it. anymore.
to me, season 9 was like going from a steak dinner to a combo from mcdonalds.
maybe season 10 will be the steak and lobster dinner again....
sallysally
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Originally posted by Skydiverhe would have and she can't.
personally, i think if RDA still had a hand in the show vala as we know it woujld not exist.
she would have joined the show,but the 'whorelette' (cb's words, not mine) would not be part of her. She would have started more toned down and, imho, would have been more acceptible from the get go.
there's a rumor that RDA might be sticking his fingers back into the show and i hope it comes to pass.
the show thrived for 6 years with his full time input and did ok during s7 and 8 iwth his part time input...and - to many - has floundered miserably without him
he not only wouldn't have gotten where he is in the entertainment business, he wouldn't have been able to sustain it for all these YEARS.
i know i've said this before, but here's the way i think THE worst stargate scene in stargate history would have went down, 'before' the season 9 mentality.
spoilers for s9's 'the ties that bind'
Spoiler:take the scene where vala 'had' to go with daniel and company to washington to that senate committee thinger.
vala and daniel did not have to be literally sitting on each others laps to survive the wrist band thingers. so...
daniel and company are sitting in the senate room, trying to get the funding they need.
vala is in the adjacent room, tied up to a chair. and gagged. and in fatigues.
you want your humor? when mitchell asks daniel where vala is, daniel says she's just fine. and then we get a quick cut to vala in that chair, ticked and trying to get out. then sags and just waits it out.
*i* think that would have been funny.
and daniel, teal'c, mitchell (he was there, right?), and landry would have acted like the serious and intelligent ppl they're supposed to be.
classy humor over brassy.
sallysally
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Originally posted by majorsalmore whining time.
i was catching up on some reading of 'entertainment weekly' magazines. in the tv section, they always highlight 'their' picks of must see television. i used to always look for stargate sg1... not anymore. i *don't* want to see them highlight it, because - and this is hard to admit - it doesn't deserve it. anymore.
to me, season 9 was like going from a steak dinner to a combo from mcdonalds.
maybe season 10 will be the steak and lobster dinner again....
sally
I'd like to think that TPTB couldn't possibly do worse than Season NIne but I don't want them to take that as a dare.
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Originally posted by ReganXOr it could be dogfood.
Now I not only do I have the sight of a freshly opened can of Pal in my mind, I also have the disgusting smell!!
Lets hope S10 isn't a debacle, that TPTB actually do something constructive and change direction.
*RoX wanders off mumbling - maybe I'll win lotto too*
*Hey then I could bid on the RDA/AT lunch *-
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I have to say I am disgusted that BB got nominated for best actor and CB for best actress for the Saturn Awards.
I'm thinking maybe they don't have enough people to fill out the nomination positions and they were nominated by default.
I'm not saying they aren't good actors, I'm saying they didn't have any scenes worthwhile being nominated for.
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