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I have to agree. There i s zero evidence that the Furlings created Reese, and all signs do, in fact, point to either an Ancient or someone that discovered their archives, more than likely a human given Reese's form. An android appears humanoid because we imagine them as machine versions of ourselves. Any other race constructing androids would make them resemble themselves, so Reese would not be human-looking had a non-human race constructed her.
Besides, only the Ancients have shown a proficiency with nano-technology. The Asgard could recreate Replicators if they wished, but nothing else, whereas the Ancients were clearly quite used to nanites by the time they invented the Asurans.Click the banner or episode links to visit the virtual continuations of Stargate!Previous Episode: 11x03 "Shore Leave" | Previous Episode: 6x04 "Nightfall" | Now Airing: 3x06 "Eldest"The Continuing Stargate Wiki | Stargate: Avalon l The New "Ark of Truth" | Stargate: Universe Reviews | Banner designs by Alx
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i saw the first part of the eppy again[5.19, menace]. its an android, mechanical. so an altairan, not an asuran. she did have nano technology, in the sense of self repairing moleculary machines. which is what a nanite is. which means, it most likely predates asurans, which means this may have been pre-asuran technology. on the other hand, she could literally create stuff with her hands, through these nanites. so basically, she was a replicator/android hybrid. either predating asurans, but now also, more likely to be post asuran, as a being directly created to be human, instead of nanites evolving into it.
even though there is no direct evidence the ruins looked ancient, the replicators most likely took all materials, except the base structure. which existed as metal beams, in an upsidedown V structure, and the thing reese lay on, was a bent beam of metal, with a square piece of metal on top, and her head was laying on a v shaped cushion. may sound confusing, but these people liked V's and U's. both basic forms, something key to ancient architecture. not just that, the door they entered existed out of two pieces, bot taking a [ kind of form. which is not unlike the door behind the wall, at the dakaran superweapon, in "reckoning".
so to me, it looked ancienty. ofcourse, most of the materials wouldve been used by replicators.
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Originally posted by thekillman View Postyou are totally closed for suggestion.
2: there is indication: use of natural forms, in the architecture. even though the repli's ate half the planet
and using basic Geometric shapes? who does NOT use that?
Long story short
Singularity + a machine capable of making another machine (like Reese) + the order to replicate = Replicators
Nanotech + order to kill = Asurans
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It's always been my assumption that Reese was built by an ancient, possibly Janus, after the return to MW from Pegasus. She was built using limited resources, and thus was not quite the same as the Asurans. Her structure used nano-tech for repair, but she was largely a mechanical form, as evidenced by her having an optical drive in her head and O'Neil's bullet taking her out.
Because of the problems encountered with the Asurans, Reese wasn't given the knowledge of how to replicate nanites, although the nanites themselves probably had some limited replication code. What she could do was use the nano-tech to manipulate other metals. She made the first replicators as "pets" probably in the form of an insect that she found beautiful.
The thing is, she included bits of her own technology in their design, namely kiron pathways. That's a big red flag right there. We've seen several races use nano-tech to accomplish various tasks, but the Ancients are the only one's we've seen use Kiron tech. Heck, the replicator blocks created by Reese even resemble letters in the Ancient alphabet.
As for the Furlings, I still believe that the crystal skull aliens were Furlings. Actually, I believe the "giant mist aliens" were merely projections. The writing on the Paradise Arch was Mayan, the Crystal Skull aliens spoke Mayan and if they were projections then it still fits with TPTB saying we've never seen Furlings.
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Originally posted by Kebab Gud View PostNo.. not really.. that level of technology is the final stage in all forms of technology..
And the Asurans are aonly called Replicators because they have a simular type of design as the Humanform Replicators in Ida/Milkyway.. other then that they don't share ANYTHING..
The Asurans live normal life emulating their creators.. the replicators only live to replicate and learn..
Name one... other then a similarity in nanite technology (that the replicators might even have learned from assimilating anciet tech. but even if they didnt they would eventually evolvt to that level anyway)
1. The Asgard used the "come forth" command to call all Replicators to their homeworld.
2. They found this command in Reese's base programming, because of this it's safe to believe that Reese created these Replicators.
3. The Asgard/Tau'ri used a weapon that O'Neill created from the Ancient database to defeat Replicators.
4. The Ancients created the Asurans.
5. The Atlantis expedition used the same weapon used to destroy MW/Reese created Replicators to destroy Asurans.
Are you ready for this?
6. If the same weapon was used to destroy Asurans as MW Replicators created by Reese, we might be able to assume that they were created by the same people.
It's called logic. This may not be absolute proof, but it's 100% more proof that Reese is possibly ancient technology than Furling.
Sorry people, just because you wish something was related to the Furlings, doesn't mean you should just make things up and say it is.
Game Over.
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Originally posted by ManiacMike View PostYou mean the giant smoke aliens are furlings. Thats been said but never proven.
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Originally posted by jrd231 View PostWhy do you insist on being so difficult? There is absolutely NO evidence that the Furlings created Reese. Let me break this down for you so we can avoid any ID 10 T errors on this one.
1. The Asgard used the "come forth" command to call all Replicators to their homeworld.
2. They found this command in Reese's base programming, because of this it's safe to believe that Reese created these Replicators.
3. The Asgard/Tau'ri used a weapon that O'Neill created from the Ancient database to defeat Replicators.
4. The Ancients created the Asurans.
5. The Atlantis expedition used the same weapon used to destroy MW/Reese created Replicators to destroy Asurans.
Are you ready for this?
6. If the same weapon was used to destroy Asurans as MW Replicators created by Reese, we might be able to assume that they were created by the same people.
It's called logic. This may not be absolute proof, but it's 100% more proof that Reese is possibly ancient technology than Furling.
Sorry people, just because you wish something was related to the Furlings, doesn't mean you should just make things up and say it is.
Game Over.supersoldier34sigpic
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