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    #31
    Yes, but all we have to do is take it apart and examine it, Area 51 would LOVE that job!

    Owen Macri

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      #32
      But it could be like the ion cannon. It cant be reverse enginered.
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        #33
        No, with enough understanding of the technology I am sure anything can be reverse engineered, and a Zat is not to complicated, relativley speaking.

        Owen Macri

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          #34
          yes - (for the most part) all things can be reversed engineered. obviously it becomes more tricky with more advanced tech, and tech based on foreign principles, ie, the tollan tech is based on their understanding of the universe which is far superior to ours.

          However, if you really must reverse engineer a particular item, all you really need to do is replicate every componant and built another. That method takes much more time cos you have to analyze and replicate, whereas if you understand the tech it's easier. Another thing I should point out thou is that the production order is probably important. For example we know that coka-cola coke has a special secret ingredient. however, even if you knew it, it doesn't mean you could make coke like the original. The way it's made is very important too.

          Also, like Owen said, relativly speaking and compared to other tech we've sussed out, the zat is very basic.

          Originally posted by nimitz
          cozzerob you seem to be correct about the p90.The small zats may not be able to send a large enough supply of energy for a 1 shot kill ,so a bigger one might be more effective.
          True, one shot might not be enough but that's part of the plan, a non-lethal solution, which can be used with killing force if needed. I'd be more worried about the whole molecular disintergration idea. If one shot,s not even enough to stop the heart (and even the smallest levels of electricity can stop the heart when applied directly, ie, by a zat blast penetrating the whole body), then how the hell is two more going to disintergrate. kill I can deal with cos they alter you bio-electric field, but 3 to disintergrate - not gonna happen. That's probably why we havent seen any disintergration for ages.

          Oh - +don't worry about it, guns are an interest <cough - obsession> of mine. But i'm not a violent person... really i'm not

          Originally posted by Loaf
          i think a Zat rifles a great idea
          I agree too - they would be excellent. And I like the idea of making it look like a P90, kind of like the intars (now those are cool!). I would love an p90 intar...
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            #35
            Originally posted by Owen Macri
            No, with enough understanding of the technology I am sure anything can be reverse engineered, and a Zat is not to complicated, relativley speaking.

            Owen Macri
            Maybe it isnt very complicated ,maybe it is.And i am sure area 51 would like to study anti-capital cannons more.Though they may not for all i know.
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            Lister: "Arnold Rimmer, his locker, this morning."
            - Rimmer and Lister, Balance of Power from Red Dwarf

            Ambassador: I hate you English. With your boring trousers and your shiny toilet paper and your ridiculous preconceptions that Frenchmen are great lovers. I'm French and I'm hung like a baby carrot and a couple of petits pois.
            - Nob and Nobility from Blackadder

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              #36
              Originally posted by cozzerob
              True, one shot might not be enough but that's part of the plan, a non-lethal solution, which can be used with killing force if needed.
              I meant with the zat rifle because people can still fight after a zat shot and could have a different mode for stunning.I think this would be far superior to current zats.
              Rimmer: "What's this? Learning drugs? They're illegal, matey! Where did you get them? I'm afraid you're in very serious, grave, deep trouble, Lister. Where did you get them? I want names, I want places, I want dates."
              Lister: "Arnold Rimmer, his locker, this morning."
              - Rimmer and Lister, Balance of Power from Red Dwarf

              Ambassador: I hate you English. With your boring trousers and your shiny toilet paper and your ridiculous preconceptions that Frenchmen are great lovers. I'm French and I'm hung like a baby carrot and a couple of petits pois.
              - Nob and Nobility from Blackadder

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                #37
                I am sure Area 51 would like to study a lot of stuff!

                Owen Macri

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                  #38
                  lol yeah like ancient drones and alot of other ancient stuff from atliantis. I think at the mo this would take priorty, also i think Zats beams r quite slow so easly doggable at range so would it make an effective rifle? But its a cool idea espcially if u made it like a P-90 with power setings kill a wraith in a single shot would would be usfull

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                    #39
                    Technically speaking, zat beams are rather crap. Goa'uld's with hand devices don't even need the shield to deflect them, they can just do the whole blast effect (like in 'Double Jeopardy') to dissapate the energy. so even if the goa'uld doesn't have the shield generator device on the hand device, you r still screwed if you attack them with a zat.

                    that said the occasional ineffectivness if ofset by the overwhelming coolness of the zat.
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                      #40
                      I would have to agree that a Zat against a hand device is not a fair match up. However, a really freaking cool P90 is deffinetly something that I would want!

                      Owen Macri

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                        #41
                        Owen, from what I read in the gun thread, anything gun with the label p90 would get excited to have.
                        I too would like to see a zat-p90. And it would work like they did in Lost City II.
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                          #42
                          Lol, I want a P90 with every possible weapon integrated into it, it is the COOLEST gun!

                          Owen Macri

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                            #43
                            Donesnt the p90 have the ability to add an intar to it.That would get rid of any need for a zat.You could zat'em after to make sure after using the intar.
                            Rimmer: "What's this? Learning drugs? They're illegal, matey! Where did you get them? I'm afraid you're in very serious, grave, deep trouble, Lister. Where did you get them? I want names, I want places, I want dates."
                            Lister: "Arnold Rimmer, his locker, this morning."
                            - Rimmer and Lister, Balance of Power from Red Dwarf

                            Ambassador: I hate you English. With your boring trousers and your shiny toilet paper and your ridiculous preconceptions that Frenchmen are great lovers. I'm French and I'm hung like a baby carrot and a couple of petits pois.
                            - Nob and Nobility from Blackadder

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                              #44
                              Good thinking, the only thing is I would want it to be smaller, and have a switch to change modes!

                              Owen Macri

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by nimitz
                                Donesnt the p90 have the ability to add an intar to it.That would get rid of any need for a zat.You could zat'em after to make sure after using the intar.
                                yes. the p-90 proboably has a limit. adding a zat or any other part could disable it or make it unstable
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