Rush's actions

[Replicator Todd]

Dialing Earth would've worked.

Are you sure about that? How could we know?

[Pharaoh Atem]

What are you talking about? All Rush wants to do is stay on the ship. And he's a psycho. Of course he set that up. Dialing Earth would've worked.

and had possible taken destiny with it.

[Squires]

Rush is like, the ultimate......I dunno, something ultimate.

The ultimate enigma. I like what he did tonight, I still don't know his true motives.

[Pat1487]

The electricity coming off the gate didnt look staged by Rush
That didnt seem like a good thing, so based on that id say it wouldnt have worked

Also, while Rush wants to stay on the ship, he also doesnt want to die
Dialing Earth through this method successfully doesnt mean he would have to leave the ship
Dialing Earth successfully would be in Rush's best interest actually, he could get everyone off the ship and stay behind alone
I get the feeling he would much rather be alone on the ship then have people constantly 2nd guessing him and not trusting him

[AVFan]

Are you sure about that? How could we know?

Because Rush is one devious sob. I doubt that anything that comes out of his mouth is the complete truth. He played them two episodes ago at the end of Light, and in Air. Who knows how many other times in between.

Oh, and this isn't to say I hate Rush. I'm loving Rush. But I wouldn't trust him with a dollar. (or a euro for our friends there )

[AVFan]

The electricity coming off the gate didnt look staged by Rush
That didnt seem like a good thing, so based on that id say it wouldnt have worked

The gate on Icarus got electrified, and it worked perfectly. Well, except for the whole thing where the Ha'taks blow up the planet...

[EllieVee]

Because Rush is one devious sob. I doubt that anything that comes out of his mouth is the complete truth. He played them two episodes ago at the end of Light, and in Air. Who knows how many other times in between.

Oh dear, and how exactly did Rush 'play' them? By being polite? Gosh, were everyone so easily confused by someone displaying manners in the face of such rudeness.

[Ripple in Space]

But yes, Rush did the right thing
And I agree earth shouldnt be telling them what to do so forcefully like this
They arent there and they arent the ones who are in danger (and even if they get into danger while there they can just bail out like cowards as demonstrated here)

You have the right to your opinion, but remember, Rush & Young were defying O'Neill's orders. It's not like it was some guy with his own agenda, 12 years of Jack O'Neill, and we've seen that defending human life is #1 on his list of priorities, Young pretty much said so himself.

In similar situations, Weir, Shep, and all the others have deferred to Jack after voicing their grievances, because... it's the law... his integrity is unquestioned... the Asgard named a ship after him...

[AVFan]

Oh dear, and how exactly did Rush 'play' them? By being polite? Gosh, were everyone so easily confused by someone displaying manners in the face of such rudeness.

He dialed them to the Destiny in the first place, when he obviously should've dialed to Earth. Then for him to be polite out of NOWHERE? Especially when everyone doubted him? Not to mention the fact that he took him name out of the lottery.

[EllieVee]

He dialed them to the Destiny in the first place, when he obviously should've dialed to Earth. Then for him to be polite out of NOWHERE? Especially when everyone doubted him? Not to mention the fact that he took him name out of the lottery.

He actually had a valid scientific reason not to dial Earth. He took his name out of the lottery because he wanted to stay on Destiny. And all it took for him to be polite was to come down from a caffeine and nicotine high.

[AVFan]

He actually had a valid scientific reason not to dial Earth. He took his name out of the lottery because he wanted to stay on Destiny. And all it took for him to be polite was to come down from a caffeine and nicotine high.

For the first two, I suppose it's a matter of opinion- I think he's lying through his teeth, but you may be just as right. And I don't really think getting off of nicotine/caffine highs cause personality changes.

[Pat1487]

You have the right to your opinion, but remember, Rush & Young were defying O'Neill's orders. It's not like it was some guy with his own agenda, 12 years of Jack O'Neill, and we've seen that defending human life is #1 on his list of priorities, Young pretty much said so himself.

In similar situations, Weir, Shep, and all the others have deferred to Jack after voicing their grievances, because... it's the law... his integrity is unquestioned... the Asgard named a ship after him...

I wasnt questioning Jack
I agree with you, Jacks integrity is unquestioned
The IOA were pulling the strings with this, not Jack

When the transcripts are out for this episode ill pull up the quote that im thinking of
Its either where hes talking about how Sam got him out of stuff using stuff he doesnt understand, or the 2nd exchange between Young and Jack

[EllieVee]

For the first two, I suppose it's a matter of opinion- I think he's lying through his teeth, but you may be just as right. And I don't really think getting off of nicotine/caffine highs cause personality changes.

Ah, but the difference is you're speculating and I'm using what's in the episodes. Actions and words, my friend.

As for coming down off a high, do you know anything about withdrawal?

[_Famrir_]

Rush is the what i wanted mckay to be in atlantis. I think rush has a good reason for his actions and in the end its for the benefit for Destiny and in turn for the rest of the crew, also he saved them twice and i highly doubt he knew as a fact that the destiny was going to refuel in the center of the sun. Plus his rashness for the first few days or so aboard the ship can be attributed to his withdrawal.

[Cecil Brax]

For the first two, I suppose it's a matter of opinion- I think he's lying through his teeth, but you may be just as right. And I don't really think getting off of nicotine/caffine highs cause personality changes.

Ohh yeah it does. When I was younger I drank alot of Coffee (A half-pot a day) and I was forced to stop cold turkey one day. After about a day or two, I was ripping people's heads off, sick to my stomach, going from highs to low ... Caffeine withdrawl is a very very real thing and can seriously change your personality till it gets out of your system.

To this day, if I drink more then a cup every once in a great while I start to get addicted to it again. Even when I stopped drinking soda every day I could seriously feel the effects and was very irritable in the mornings.

Off topic, but just to respond to a thought someone else had posted about.

- CB