S10: Critique & Contemplation

[Zoser]

Spoiler:

Jack's General Magwitch? He can't be - General Magwitch is a ****. He's also selfish and physically unattractive.

I guess that now they've got to go back in time to just before SG-1 arrived in 1969 and meet up with Jack and supply him with contraceptives. Problem solved.

It does, however, make perfect sense that the only reason Mitchell got the job was because strings were pulled on his behalf.

I will offer to pay for said profolactics however I always thought Jack was fooling around with Sam in the back of the bus!

[Zoser]

Spoiler:

I'd say Mitchell is more likely to be Landry's long-lost love child.

And for an episode of As the Gate Turns

Spoiler:

have him fall for the effervescent Dr. Lam

[Skydiver]

"good for them having fun but thier actions sseem more li ke the actions of folks that know the show is toast and are having fun finishing out the ride rather than working to keep the game going"
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So right Sky--dont you think they know the show is finished and as such do not have to care at all about the fans?
I see a trend of trying to get more folks watching Alantis (which is ok by me) to see if it might survive on its own????

that's what i'm seeing too

it's the 7th season of tng, they know the show is toast so they're just having fun while it lasts

[Skydiver]

and actually, On Air promotion DOES cost the network money
someone has to make those promos so there's time and possibly material if anything is shot for it.

also, the only way they're 'free' is if the ad time isn't already sold. If they're turning down paid advertisors to pimp thier shows, then the promo costs what they could have sold that ad for

[Skydiver]

what i am seeing between sg1 and eureka is

let's promote the show, get everyone to watch it, let eeryone know it' there

whereas with stargate it was more the

pimp the record, cater to the actors, give the suits thier photo ops...basically the sg1 spending was to reward the people involved not to pimp the show while eureka is directed at pimping the show

[Albion]

That's what was really irritating me - if TPTB know why the h3ll don't they do something about it?? Make these character seem real again.

Yeah, well this solution benefits them in two ways, doesn't it? Firstly, they don't have to work too hard to deal with the issues. They just throw in some jokes and horse around for an hour. Secondly, from this point on, should a fan complain that we've never seen the Furlings, or that Mitchell getting a command at the SGC is completely illogical, they can just shrug and say, "We've dealt with that! We showed you the Furlings! Watch 200!".

Albion

[pittsburghgirl]

I think that I have finally come to the realization that the show that is being called Stargate SG-1 is in fact not that show but another. I believe that what they are showing is actually Stargate Command and i do not like this new show.

[Gregorius]

I think that I have finally come to the realization that the show that is being called Stargate SG-1 is in fact not that show but another. I believe that what they are showing is actually Stargate Command and i do not like this new show.

I prefer the title "Stargate: Friends in space", it covers everything that has happened over the past 2 seasons.

[pittsburghgirl]

I prefer the title "Stargate: Friends in space", it covers everything that has happened over the past 2 seasons.

Green

[suse]

note: i have no idea what i'm talking about. but couldn't they have been airing commercials that did give them money when they were airing the promotions? so don't they lose that money?

That assumes all the air-time was sold.

Though I don't think it's so bad that they couldn't sell all the commercial time. Though they must sell it in blocks. *5* repeats of the same comercial in 2 hours! Oy! And they wonder why we wonder off - besides potty breaks, ice cream breaks, surfing breaks...

Suse

Hi PR! Long time no see!

[smurf]

Yeah, well this solution benefits them in two ways, doesn't it? Firstly, they don't have to work too hard to deal with the issues. They just throw in some jokes and horse around for an hour. Secondly, from this point on, should a fan complain that we've never seen the Furlings, or that Mitchell getting a command at the SGC is completely illogical, they can just shrug and say, "We've dealt with that! We showed you the Furlings! Watch 200!".

Albion

That's the feeling I get from 200. It's not like Wormhole Xtreme where it was mostly jokes about things they did in the past (stuff they were, maybe, a little embarassed about), but about what they are doing (and not fixing) now.
If they continue in the same vein after acknowledging everything that is wrong with the show, then the two fingers held up to the fans wasn't for victory.


200 was okay, although it seems it was too much to ask for a B-plot. Or, in fact, an A-plot.
I'm sorry, but

Spoiler:

can we cut back on the Mitchell love please? They have a party ready on the other side of the gate? To celebrate Cambo's 200th trip? Or was there a more interesting reason for the party that we weren't privy to?

And the quote about sci-fi at the end. Yeah, that would have worked before the show was screwed up into a shadow of its former self. It's a little pretentious when the show is as bog standard as it is now.

[DEM]

If they continue in the same vein after acknowledging everything that is wrong with the show, then the two fingers held up to the fans wasn't for victory.

Ooh, good one. I really didn't feel that they were saying 'screw you'... but, then again, this is RCC's show, so...

I'm sorry, but

Spoiler:

can we cut back on the Mitchell love please? They have a party ready on the other side of the gate? To celebrate Cambo's 200th trip?

Thru

Spoiler:

ANY event horizon, no less. As I said in the ep thread, I took it as pure nonsensical farce and left it at that.

[smurf]

Ooh, good one. I really didn't feel that they were saying 'screw you'... but, then again, this is RCC's show, so...

Well, I hope not. But if they don't want to fix what's wrong... I shall draw my own conclusions.

Thru

Spoiler:

ANY event horizon, no less. As I said in the ep thread, I took it as pure nonsensical farce and left it at that.

Terrible link, isn't it? It's not even necessary to mention 200 (it wasn't for 100), and related to a newbie no less.
That bit at the end pushed it over the edge for me in Mitchell pimpage I'm afraid. Neither funny nor logical. You might as well have it for Vala or Landry.


ETA: Actually, thinking about it, most of the jokes were directly related to what has happened in the last couple of seasons. Not much of a celebration of SG-1's longevity...

[MediaSavant]

and actually, On Air promotion DOES cost the network money
someone has to make those promos so there's time and possibly material if anything is shot for it.

Yes and no. They set aside about the same amount of time for self-promotions all the time. It's just a matter of which programs they promote in the time they've set aside.

They didn't set aside any more time than they usually do for "200". As for producing the promos, they do that every episode. They did produce a few more versions than usual, which is more expenditure. But, I wouldn't call it "major".

[MediaSavant]

They could have also had newspaper and billboards in certain markets. I dont know. It does seem like they spent more time pimping this ep then any other ep this year. I was simply wondering if that is because they planned to spend a good portion of their pimping budget on this ep that it didnt leave a lot for the rest of the season.

I work in midtown Manhattan. Trust me, if there is out-of-home advertising, they run it in Manhattan where they can see them themselves. When Stargate first came on the network, they covered subway cars with ads of RDA and Ben Browder (they were promoting both SG and Farscape in the same ad.)

I also read USA Today and that's where they usually put ads.

I agree that this episode was better promoted than any other this season, but the absolute budget was not that high relative to other promotions the network has done.