Sam Carter/Jack O'Neill Ship Appreciation Thread

[AstraPerAspera]

Just a note for anyone who's thinking about that 10 Season complete SG-1 DVD set from Amazon...I was browsing comments about it and it seems that there have been a lot of complaints about the discs being scratched and pitted, in some cases to the point of being unplayable. So if you're considering investing in this set, just beware that there have been problems and be sure to check your discs once you get them.

[atlantis_babe34]

Nawww that sucks! I can't find them In Aust anywhere >_<

[Buc252]

yes on both, especially the first.

i don't really see fifth as a stalker, but more of a new-to-handling-emotions being that took sam's betrayal like a child would.



sally

I agree, he had an innocence about him. I guess what I mean is, for a person to be truly evil, they have to *know* they're evil and doing something very wrong, and then do it anyway. Fifth did evil, yes, but he didn't *know* he was doing evil. He was just striking out out of pain. He's more like a little boy angry over not getting what he wants and throwing a tantrum.

Pete, meanwhile, knew every second he was doing it that he was wrong to stalk Sam and *very* wrong to use government resources to try to get information he wasn't supposed to have. That, IMO, makes for true evil. To know you're doing wrong and why it's wrong, and yet do it anyway.

As for Pete being necessary to the progression of the ship, Sam could have come to the same revelation by dating a lot of guys - without the commitment or the sex.

[Lady eliza]

"Oh, I'm sorry! My head!"

Heeheehee. I think your caption mojo is thinking of coming back! Let's try another...

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a.../OutofMind.jpg
You were right! I do feel better now you've taken that pesky contact out of my eye!

LOL, it fits really well. Their expressions are perfect.

Yes, but notice there's a theme...

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a.../OutofMind.jpg
HEADACHE? WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU HAVE A HEADACHE?!?!

Lol, Sam's look of outrage. She hadn't hit him that hard, had she?

Just a note for anyone who's thinking about that 10 Season complete SG-1 DVD set from Amazon...I was browsing comments about it and it seems that there have been a lot of complaints about the discs being scratched and pitted, in some cases to the point of being unplayable. So if you're considering investing in this set, just beware that there have been problems and be sure to check your discs once you get them.

I'm suddenly glad I can't afford it. I love your Christmas tree sig. Jack's pouting fits.

[JackandSamAddict]

Yes, but notice there's a theme...

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a.../OutofMind.jpg
HEADACHE? WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU HAVE A HEADACHE?!?!

Why can't I green you!? This one is great, Claudia...it made my busy retail day!

[atlantis_babe34]

Ot:

Spoiler:

Arggh! I hate uni stuff! It's so confusing i have to lodge a help form for my payments and crappy! why does it have to be some confusing i'm not even paying my fees! Gosh! i hate Uni already >_<

*cries*

[Amalthea]

Ot:

Spoiler:

Arggh! I hate uni stuff! It's so confusing i have to lodge a help form for my payments and crappy! why does it have to be some confusing i'm not even paying my fees! Gosh! i hate Uni already >_<

*cries*

*hugs* atlantis_babe!

Spoiler:

It'll be worth it once you start classes, I promise!

[starlover]

Hey all,

So I've got "Spirits" playing in the background while I work and there are two things I noted:

1. Jack calls Carter "Sam" when he's in the infirmary (post arrowshot) and he's telling her he knows she'll do a good job with her first command.

2. During the Code 9 when Sam, Jack and Teal'c meet at the armory, they're filling each other in on what's happening and Jack grabs a Beretta, hands it to Sam, she chambers a round and hands it back to him. All in unspoken coordination while they're planning their next move. I love that. Reminds me of the gif that floats around here from time to time when she grabs his sidearm (seriously, people OUT of the gutter!) and shoots bad guys while he fires with his other weapon.

(You know, no matter how I write the above, it comes out guttery.) Sheesh.

I'll better comment on this...as being the queen of the gutter

But erm...it's really guttery(yup, that came out lame)
Poor Jack and Sam always working on Jacks sidearm... Even when T and Daniel are there*feels sorry for the guys*

Sorry for the double post. Just dropping off a wp I made today
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa214/missnjack/th_rdawp-1.jpg

Awesome WP... btw you do know that your Jack sig is really distracting...

Ot:

Spoiler:

Arggh! I hate uni stuff! It's so confusing i have to lodge a help form for my payments and crappy! why does it have to be some confusing i'm not even paying my fees! Gosh! i hate Uni already >_<

*cries*

*hugs*

also hugs to the others who need it!!!

[atlantis_babe34]

Thanks for your Hugs guys!

Spoiler:

Ahh! fianlly through all of it after waiting on the phone for ages! >_< i swear this is the most confuzzled i've ever been! oh well nothing left to do do now until after Chrsitmas!

[Bekki]

Yay!

On a completely unrelated note, I think my caption muse has deserted me. I'd really appreciated it if someone could post something stupid and idiotic enlightening that I could make fun of in caption format. Thanks Or I could just insult Bekki more. We haven't had a good ol' insult fest in a while. *giggles*

*cough* Potato Farmer! *cough*

Kerry-picker!

"Seahen smells," Bekki yells
as she runs away
Oh what fun it is to shout
and insult friends all day, Hey!

Seahen smells, like hand gels
left in the sun all day
Oh what fun it is to laugh
at Kerry Lover, Yay!

[NZNeep]

Kerry-picker!

"Seahen smells," Bekki yells
as she runs away
Oh what fun it is to shout
and insult friends all day, Hey!

Seahen smells, like hand gels
left in the sun all day
Oh what fun it is to laugh
at Kerry Lover, Yay!

You've lost it. You have seriously lost it.

Heeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

[elbarta]

It's quiet today!

Congrats on 2000 posts Rachel!!!

*look at the time*

Time zone again!

I'll come back in a few hours then!

[starlover]

Kerry-picker!

"Seahen smells," Bekki yells
as she runs away
Oh what fun it is to shout
and insult friends all day, Hey!

Seahen smells, like hand gels
left in the sun all day
Oh what fun it is to laugh
at Kerry Lover, Yay!

ROFL...Poor Seahen. (But great poem)

And I feel the war is starting again...no more peace...hippies...ya have to come to defend the peace!

and again OT :

Spoiler:

Got back from my Goa'uld doctor....and I got some antibiotics...I hope I feel now better soon

[JenniferJF]

Since the thread is slow (and it's WoW Server maintenance day), I figured I'd stir things up a bit. Not picking on you, Buc, but you were the last to express these very common S/J shipper sentiments:

Pete, meanwhile, knew every second he was doing it that he was wrong to stalk Sam and *very* wrong to use government resources to try to get information he wasn't supposed to have. That, IMO, makes for true evil. To know you're doing wrong and why it's wrong, and yet do it anyway.

I've avoided mentioning it but, like I said, the thread is slow. Having watched Chimaera live when it was first aired as a non-S/J shipper, I had never even considered Pete as a stalker until I found online S/J fandom. Before that I saw him as actually rather sweet, in that around him Sam finally seemed to smile and relax (even if it was a bit forced). What shippers refer to as his stalking her I took as not truly being pathological and 'evil' but rather a symptom of his neediness and desire to be accepted and loved. As for the illegality of searching Sam's background, I do know from my husband's stint as a PI that most of that sort of information is available to anyone who signs up and registers for access to it through many publically available websites due to the Freedom of Information Act and so I never really saw it as breaking the law but rather one friend asking another to access data he had available to him as a favor. (though in retrospect I do agree it was at least bending the rules.)

So I've honestly always thought Pete got a bit of a bad rap with shippers, especially as in retrospect I think all the 'wrongness', both Pete's grasping for Sam and inability to just accept who she was and the secrets she had, and Sam's accepting his neediness and basically ignoring it, show the relationship was dysfunctional from inception and more an attempt by both of them to fill empty spaces in their lives than a true loving and romantic relationship.

And, really, I think Sam did more wrong (or at least as much wrong) in the relationship as Pete. She was, after all, using him terribly. The fact that he went along with it - even admitting later he knew she wasn't in love with him - doesn't imho absolve her of blame. She in effect led him on, and I have a feeling if the gender roles were reversed and Pete were the beloved regular on a series instead of Sam, she would be painted as the villainess of the piece instead of him.

*ducks*

As for Pete being necessary to the progression of the ship, Sam could have come to the same revelation by dating a lot of guys - without the commitment or the sex.

See, I think the commitment and the sex were necessary. Commitment and sex, imho, were exactly what Sam was missing in her life and exactly what she was using Pete for. After all, she has a 'relationship' with the man she loved, they were very good friends, together more often probably than not considering their working relationship, and so I think rather than risk that 'sure thing' who she believed would always be there for her in that capacity by trying for more with him, she tried to find someone else who could give her those two things Jack couldn't. And so it was specifically in those two areas she had to learn no one but Jack could satisfy

[hopalong]

Sorry for the double post. Just dropping off a wp I made today
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa214/missnjack/th_rdawp-1.jpg

Great wallpaper!

My next challenge sig:



I have a feeling I'm going to end up doing a "Bah, humbug" sig for all the characters... I really need to get some more Christmas Carol quotes...