Originally posted by sueKay
also this is not personally directed at Sue Kay...she has just happened to be the post I chose because she voiced what I was reading from others as well and Sue Kay just cut the BS and got to the heart of what I wanted to address
I COMPLETELY enjoy this Shipper Family and I KNOW that many peoples are having mixed feelings about Mobieus 1 & 2 some LIKE IT, Some LOVE it and Some HATED it...... and as you yourself Sue Kay have just pointed out we are ALL entitled to our opinions
First ....I want to point out that THIS THREAD is the ONLY place we Shippers have to voice our feelings ABOUT the Sam & Jack Ship....
Second..... NO WHERE in the *Shipper Handbook* do I find a clause or rule that says we ALL HAVE to be *Perky, Optomistic and Upbeat ALL OF THE TIME.
Third....... EVERYONE and I MEAN EVERYONE has the right to state their opinion about their level of enjoyment of ANY particular Sam & Jack moment as long as it is within the *area* of *PRO Sam & Jack* ( the topic of this thread)
Ok that being said in my most diplomatic way I want to say "Hey, we ALL are allowed to say what WE FEEL" PERIOD.
There are *Ship* moments that others think are over the moon and yet they fall flat for me. Does that make my feelings about it less valid and theirs better? NO...it just means we see that scene differently for a mariad of reasons.
As far as Mobieus is concerned MANY fans feel that the writing is becoming substandard and the Sam & Jack Ship is being used as a *Hook, Line and Sinker* way of keeping the fans that LOVE Sam & Jack from grabbing their toys and going home.
Just because those Shippers state that here doesn't make them *Bad Shippers* nor does it mean that they should just sit at home and keep quiet about how they feel.
To any Shipper that feels gyped then TO THEM their favorite couple is being gyped and THEY WANT IT HEARD.
Personally I have read a great many posts here that are VERY ARTICULATE and well thought out and I have read some that are a venting of emotional frustration. ALL are saying the SAME THING... In their opinion the Sam & Jack Ship is being abused at the hands of TPTB. Point out to me just WHERE ELSE CAN THEY GO. Show me what thread they would be welcomed at to DISCUSS SHIP?
If we as the Shipper Family won't embrace ALL of the Shipper Family WITH ALL of their opinions ALL THE TIME then why bother even calling this a Sam & Jack Ship FAMILY DISCUSSION thread?
I am sorry that some of the family feels that *If you have nothing good to say ...say nothing* Because that is wrong. Just because you (general you) don't want to read it OR don't agree with ANYONE's personal view of whether a scene for Sam & Jack was a GREAT ship moment OR a LOST opportunity for more is no reason to make that person feel wrong for their feelings. You (general you) don't want to be told that you are silly for being happy about ALL of the Sam & Jack ship moments. So why would you (general you) turn around and do that to posters that you have respected in the past, present and will probably agree with in the future.
Not all of us have EVER agreed just how we would like to see Sam & Jack resolve the Ship and we aren't going to agree if it was enough or not.
But to EVEN give others of the Ship Family the feeling or even the direct words that they have no right to be disgruntled with how THEY feel the ship was handled is just plain wrong IMO
To do so says that what they have to say is of no importance and again I say turn your (general your) finger around because if THEY DON'T have that right then neither does anyone else and THIS is no longer a discussion thread.
Thank you for listening (reading)
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