Going back to The Other Side for a moment, as I did promise to post about it.. ![Wink](https://forum.gateworld.net/core/images/smilies/../gw_smilies/wink.gif)
I haven't seen this episode in a very long time and I guess it's a good thing, because this time I noticed 2 things I hadn't on any of my previous viewings.
This. It actually makes perfect sense that Jack would know all about heavy water and its use in weaponry - this is the guy who put together a nuke in the movie; he knows stuff. It also doesn't make sense that he waited for Sam's explanation about the pilot's chair, because let's face it: what Eurondans said was pretty clear and understandable. Except then Jack was focused, as usual, on appearing clueless and harmless while later he was too annoyed at Daniel to think about his cover. Which is my long-winded way of saying that I agree with Twilight about the proof of Jack's real intelligence/knowledge.
The second thing that occured to me was: the ending. The Other Side is a Jack/Daniel episode: it's all about their conflict, their way of seeing things, their morals etc, with Sam and Teal'c playing supporting roles. So why the very end is focused on Jack and Sam, not Daniel? It would make more sense in contex of the episode to have Daniel in Sam's place - and yet he isn't.
I think it's just another subtle lead-on to the big revelation in D&C, another way for the writers to show this pairing in a different situation and another proof that the confession in D&C didn't come out of the blue, as some fans insist. I must admit though that I've never noticed exactly how well planned it was.
UPGRADES
I also love this episode - but then I love or really, really like all the episodes this season
- so no surprise here..
Good catch. I've never thought about the title in this way, but it makes perfect sense.
The forceshields here just confuse me.
I always assumed that they worked just one-way, meaning that you had to get through them to get in but had no problem with getting out, like Teal'c and Daniel. But of course this can't be the case because then Teal'c wouldn't have gotten in and more importantly, Sam would never have gotten stuck. So your explanation works better, except: if the forcefields were activated after the alarm, why were they active before (Jack and Sam go through them on their way to plant C4). I don't know if there is some logical explanation or is it just a plothole. ![Confused](https://forum.gateworld.net/core/images/smilies/../gw_smilies/confused.gif)
On a good note, there's a lot of complaints in the fandom that Jack and Sam stay behind for absolutely no reason other than to have "a moment" and they should have gone back with Daniel and Teal'c - but this is not the case. It's made pretty clear that they are pursuided by the Jaffa and Sam and Jack stay to fight them off and but time for Teal'c to get Daniel to safety. Presumably the more Jaffa came the further into the building the fight took place. I love that this "plothole" is not a plothole after all.![Smile](https://forum.gateworld.net/core/images/smilies/../gw_smilies/smile.gif)
My 2 cents about Anise: I like her. I think she was a very interesting character and the only outfit of hers that I can't stand is that pointy "thing" from D&C. Her dress in Upgrades isn't something shocking; I know girls who dress like this every day, so there. Heck, my own summer dresses aren't much more conservative
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On the subject of her romance with the guys: I agree that it would be interesting to see Jack attracted to her, for the reasons stated. Daniel less so, I've never seen much potential/chemistry there, but I wouldn't have minded either. Basically I just don't like the idea of the Jack-Anise/Freya -Daniel triangle.
Did Jack and Sam talked about the "forceshield incident" before D&C? I don't think so. I'm rather inclined to believe that as soon as the forceshield collapsed they pushed it out of their minds and tried not to even *think* about it till the Za'tarc testing. But it was such a huge moment in both their lives that all it took was Sam's subtle prompt for Jack to catch up.
More random stuff:
I really like all the cold looks Sam gives Anise/Freya every time she tries to speak/shows any interest in Jack. It's like the armband makes her less controlled and less willing/able to keep appearances than usual.
I love how she snaps at Jack when he tries to blame her hunger for the O'Malleys incident
No trace of obedient subordinate there, the "sir" she finally tucks at the end seems almost reluctant. It's a lot like her behaviour later on in "The Light".
It never occured to me that they could have done something more intimate during this time. Maybe because they seem to be under constant survilliance at first, and then Daniel is with them all the time. My personal "screwing the regs time" candidate is "Beneath the Surface"
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I haven't seen this episode in a very long time and I guess it's a good thing, because this time I noticed 2 things I hadn't on any of my previous viewings.
Originally posted by Twilight506
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The second thing that occured to me was: the ending. The Other Side is a Jack/Daniel episode: it's all about their conflict, their way of seeing things, their morals etc, with Sam and Teal'c playing supporting roles. So why the very end is focused on Jack and Sam, not Daniel? It would make more sense in contex of the episode to have Daniel in Sam's place - and yet he isn't.
I think it's just another subtle lead-on to the big revelation in D&C, another way for the writers to show this pairing in a different situation and another proof that the confession in D&C didn't come out of the blue, as some fans insist. I must admit though that I've never noticed exactly how well planned it was.
UPGRADES
I also love this episode - but then I love or really, really like all the episodes this season
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Originally posted by Cagranosalis
Ahem, ok. I know it’s come up before and probably will again, regarding the issue of Teal’c and Daniel staying too. While I don’t dispute they too stayed when they should have left, and this too is significant as it demonstrates the whole team is too close. However, with Jack I have read here an argument that he couldn’t leave due to that forceshield they encounter but it occurred to me that Teal’c and Daniel walked right through the one on the exit and then turned around and could not go back. So I actually think (and this is just my opinion) that it only got raised once the intruder alarm was sounded just after Teal’c and Daniel passed through - i.e. they had not had to pass through it on the way in (which makes sense or else how did non-superhero Teal’c get in?) Jack would have had no way of knowing that. So if you think he’s standing there staring certain death and Sam in the face thinking, "I might as well die here because I can’t get out anyway" I seriously doubt it. I’m pretty certain the only coherent thought flitting through his brain was something along the lines of "Oh sh…".
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![Confused](https://forum.gateworld.net/core/images/smilies/../gw_smilies/confused.gif)
On a good note, there's a lot of complaints in the fandom that Jack and Sam stay behind for absolutely no reason other than to have "a moment" and they should have gone back with Daniel and Teal'c - but this is not the case. It's made pretty clear that they are pursuided by the Jaffa and Sam and Jack stay to fight them off and but time for Teal'c to get Daniel to safety. Presumably the more Jaffa came the further into the building the fight took place. I love that this "plothole" is not a plothole after all.
![Smile](https://forum.gateworld.net/core/images/smilies/../gw_smilies/smile.gif)
My 2 cents about Anise: I like her. I think she was a very interesting character and the only outfit of hers that I can't stand is that pointy "thing" from D&C. Her dress in Upgrades isn't something shocking; I know girls who dress like this every day, so there. Heck, my own summer dresses aren't much more conservative
![Stick Out Tongue](https://forum.gateworld.net/core/images/smilies/../gw_smilies/tongue.gif)
![Big Grin](https://forum.gateworld.net/core/images/smilies/../gw_smilies/biggrin.gif)
On the subject of her romance with the guys: I agree that it would be interesting to see Jack attracted to her, for the reasons stated. Daniel less so, I've never seen much potential/chemistry there, but I wouldn't have minded either. Basically I just don't like the idea of the Jack-Anise/Freya -Daniel triangle.
Did Jack and Sam talked about the "forceshield incident" before D&C? I don't think so. I'm rather inclined to believe that as soon as the forceshield collapsed they pushed it out of their minds and tried not to even *think* about it till the Za'tarc testing. But it was such a huge moment in both their lives that all it took was Sam's subtle prompt for Jack to catch up.
More random stuff:
I really like all the cold looks Sam gives Anise/Freya every time she tries to speak/shows any interest in Jack. It's like the armband makes her less controlled and less willing/able to keep appearances than usual.
I love how she snaps at Jack when he tries to blame her hunger for the O'Malleys incident
![Big Grin](https://forum.gateworld.net/core/images/smilies/../gw_smilies/biggrin.gif)
Originally posted by Rachel500
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