Jaffa as Goa'uld host?

[Elwe Singollo]

Thanks Torley

I've been going around threads seeing that, and i'm like "What?"

[zackmail]

I guess I kinda figured they would be able to enter the hosts body and then rip out the snake from the stomach, after all its just an immature baby and the goauld aren't all that "parental"

[Skydiver]

well, you're right. in 1969 teal'c said if junior grew up, he'd take him as a host. then in the tomb, he said he couldn't be blended while he had junior. (i'm presuming tomean that humans are a single occupancy dwelling. they can't host a snake and incubate one at the same time)

my guess is, like in the case of k'tano, the goa'uld ripped the snake from the jaffa's pouch (something relatively easy to do) then took him as host.

as to the X. i'm sure there will be a scar, but in bane janet said 'the pouch was already starting to heal' so i'd imagine they're like piercings, if there's not something in them to keep them open, they'll eventually grow over

[Crazedwraith]

well, you're right. in 1969 teal'c said if junior grew up, he'd take him as a host. then in the tomb, he said he couldn't be blended while he had junior. (i'm presuming tomean that humans are a single occupancy dwelling. they can't host a snake and incubate one at the same time)

my guess is, like in the case of k'tano, the goa'uld ripped the snake from the jaffa's pouch (something relatively easy to do) then took him as host.

Or he just slapped a gold "v" on his own forhead and killed his first prime. Since Imotep was a minor goa'uld no rebel Jaffa is lilely to know hos or his first primes face and be able to call his bluff.

[Skydiver]

Or he just slapped a gold "v" on his own forhead and killed his first prime. Since Imotep was a minor goa'uld no rebel Jaffa is lilely to know hos or his first primes face and be able to call his bluff.

that's possible, but i thought that k'tano portrayed himself as a first prime who'd killed his goauld and led his men to freedom, so it was in his advantage to possess k'tano and impersonate a jaffa rather than starting off having to establish his credibility

[bcmilco]

i'm presuming tomean that humans are a single occupancy dwelling. they can't host a snake and incubate one at the same time

"single occupancy dwlling." I like the way you put that

As for K'tano after he was killed he didn't have an "X" there wasn't even a scar, his stomach was completely normal so I always assumed that he was the original goa'uld and just offed his first prime.

[Elwe Singollo]

"single occupancy dwlling." I like the way you put that

Yah i liked that too

[taupecat]

well, you're right. in 1969 teal'c said if junior grew up, he'd take him as a host. then in the tomb, he said he couldn't be blended while he had junior. (i'm presuming tomean that humans are a single occupancy dwelling. they can't host a snake and incubate one at the same time)

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as to the X. i'm sure there will be a scar, but in bane janet said 'the pouch was already starting to heal' so i'd imagine they're like piercings, if there's not something in them to keep them open, they'll eventually grow over

So, if the Jaffa are just modified humans, then it makes sense that they can be a host, just so long as they don't have their own "Junior" at the time.

What always confused me was when Hathor turned O'Neill into a Jaffa, but then he was "healed" from that using a sarcophagus. Has no one ever thought to try this with Teal'c? I mean, I know sarcophagi are hard to come by, but Daniel always seems to find one when he needs one. Or is this a horse that's already been beaten to death?

What I've never been able to reconcile is Teal'c's comments in "1969" about how his symbiote will overtake him, and Shaun'ac's situation in "Crossroads". Didn't she have to get her junior out because it was fully mature and couldn't stay in her any longer? I seem to remember she went through quite a bit of pain at the time. Why wouldn't it have taken her over instead?

[MadJaffa]

So, if the Jaffa are just modified humans, then it makes sense that they can be a host, just so long as they don't have their own "Junior" at the time.

What always confused me was when Hathor turned O'Neill into a Jaffa, but then he was "healed" from that using a sarcophagus. Has no one ever thought to try this with Teal'c? I mean, I know sarcophagi are hard to come by, but Daniel always seems to find one when he needs one. Or is this a horse that's already been beaten to death?

What I've never been able to reconcile is Teal'c's comments in "1969" about how his symbiote will overtake him, and Shaun'ac's situation in "Crossroads". Didn't she have to get her junior out because it was fully mature and couldn't stay in her any longer? I seem to remember she went through quite a bit of pain at the time. Why wouldn't it have taken her over instead?

O'Neill, as I understand it was modified to be a Jaffa, in essence "first-generation." Teal'c meanwhile, was Jaffa because his parents were, "muti-generation." Teal'c could not be "healed" because he was born with it, it was his scar. The sarcophagus can not heal scars (Apothis season 4 scar). While Jack's pouch was an open wound.

Shaun'ac's symbiote was trying to be "nice" and not take her as a host. If it did there would have been a chance she would not survive. But its instinct was to blend, like a frog still undrwater with the tadpoles, the symbiote could not breath.

[Skydiver]

actually, i think tanith didn't take shonac over because it wanted to get into the tok'ra. and it possibly had that goauld/jaffa mindset that females were 'lesser' hosts

[Torley]

O'Neill, as I understand it was modified to be a Jaffa, in essence "first-generation." Teal'c meanwhile, was Jaffa because his parents were, "muti-generation." Teal'c could not be "healed" because he was born with it, it was his scar. The sarcophagus can not heal scars (Apothis season 4 scar). While Jack's pouch was an open wound.

Now THAT is interesting because I've been wondering about it... whether the sarcophagus will treat deformities and things like that. I haven't seen all of the Apophis episodes but when I was first introduced to the show, I found it odd that in some pictures his face was covered up with metal plating.

They must have really good plastic surgeons in some cases, then, because over thousands of years some very long-living Goa'uld must have been in a lot of battles, and had some sort of wounds they couldn't treat right away by leaping into the nearest open sarcophagus. They haven't explained it exactly on the show but it's one of those things that gets more messy the more words are attached to it

[Mr Prophet]

But the sarcophagus will correct vision.

Hmm; it probably would get rid of scars and old Jaffa pouches, but only if you were run through the thing so many times that poor old Teal'c would be running around without a symbiote, but instead trying to eat people's brains or something. The Goa'uld go through the sarc time and again, usually while their wounds are still fresh, and moreover their scars probably fade with time.

[MadJaffa]

actually, i think tanith didn't take shonac over because it wanted to get into the tok'ra. and it possibly had that goauld/jaffa mindset that females were 'lesser' hosts

Well yeah, he was actting "nice" because he wanted to get in, notice the quotaion marks indicatin sacasam.

[Mr Prophet]

Tanith didn't take Shan'auc as a host because Teal'c had to have his grieving vengeance.

Shan'auc getting taken would have been prime angst, but a bit...well, a bit Daniel really.

[Torley]

The most screwed-up Teal'c (apart from brainwashing) was the "wrong" one from "Tin Man"! No need for a sarc to get like that -- that's rage!!