Original Starship Design Thread

[jds1982]

Make at least three vessels for an alien race that has never contacted (nor knows about) any other race (alien or otherwise) including the ancients, don't have hyperdrive technology, have only recently discovered inertial dampeners, use ElectroMagnetically accelerated projectile weapons(railguns/coilguns) as their primary weapons, and have not developed shield technology either.

Also at least one of the ships has to be non-military in nature and mission.

Name: Behemoth class superfreighter.
Dimensions: 1000 mL 100 mW 80 mH
Crew: 10
Power: 1 Baron mk 1 fission reactor, as well as a hull lined with solar panels.
Hull: Steel and Aluminum.
Engine: Heavy duty ion engine.
Defenses: None, must rely on escort ships for protection.
Weapons: 1 anti-debris low grade rotary cannon.
Notes: The Behemoth is the heavy hauler for the Kvarnum Fuedality. Its immense cargo hold is neccesary for continued trade among the inner worlds. Behemoths are not expected to venture into the outer system, that will be left for the smaller and faster light freighters.

[ZakeD]

Spoiler:

Well, here's the first ship I've done in a while. It's still a wip..but I felt like posting what I have so far. Not sure if I like it yet..it's not very stargateish. o_0 Should be done sometime tomorrow. It's a small transport ship.

[immhotep]

Looks good ZakeD, its stargatish. Actually for some reason whenever you do a model i feel like it could be put in to the show instantly and wouldnt look atall out of place, the clumbia and the deadalus and the hatak in a row a few pages back just summed up how completely at home they would look in SG.

[rosstaylor]

Name: Pariah class pirate marauder, the term class may be a bit of a misnomer as no two pirate ships are exactly alike, it more refers to some of the systems that most pirates consider standard.
Hull: The Pariah has a variety of different hull configurations and compositions. Many are captured light freighters modified with "standard" pirate systems.
Power: Usually whatever power system is present in the ship is retained, but pirate engineered fuel cells are added to extend time "out of port" by up to several months.
Engines: Most pirates rip the old engines out and replace them with thermoplasmadynamic drives, which are faster than standard freighter drives. Some pirates also seem to have access to a technology which reduces the inertia of their ships. The speed and maneuverability of these ships is unrivaled, even by the Feudalitys most advanced craft.
Weapons: Most pirate ships carry at least one "Driller" missile. This is a truly terrible device which attaches to a ships hull and drills a hole through it, thus venting the atmosphere. If the freighter crew is not quick to don their environmental suits, they are done for. Most pirates also posses a magnetic grapple modified to emit a surge of electricity and disable the target ships systems. Many if not most pirates also add some conventional weapons to deal with the Kvarnum "Royalty's Navy" when the need arises, although standard procedure is to run at the first sign of trouble. It's how a good pirate... stays a live pirate.

sounds similar to the reavers ships in firefly

[jds1982]

sounds similar to the reavers ships in firefly

I can see that, both of them are captured ships modified to capture other ships. The reason the pirates use captured ships is that it allows them to hide in plain sight.

I thought maybe I'd post something about the biology and evolution of the Kvarnum, maybe some history, if you guys are interested. Maybe we could create a new thread, The Original Alien Creation Thread.

[immhotep]

Image for ship provided by knowles2:

Asgard destroyer design

Name: Valkyrie class
Dimensions: 500mL 300mW 70mH
Class designation: Destroyer
Hull material: Trinium/Carbon/naquadah/Neutronium alloy
Technological base: Asgard ( post replicators)

Engines: 3x sublight Gravity drive (max speed 1.8%C) , 1 x Asgard intergalactic hyperdrive (Ida to Earth in 70minutes)
Shields: 1 Asgard bubble shield
Powerplant: 1x Neutrino Ion Reactor
Weapons: 6x Asgard Ion energy cannons

History and spec details:
The war with the replicators put significant pressure on the Asgard to develop increasingly more powerfull and advanced ships. Their most advanced vessel to date is Oniel class Warship which is installed with the latest and possibly the most advanced technology that the asgard can develop.
The Oniel was designed to replace older, less replicator resistant designs such as the beliskner class, and as such the older class have been discontinued or scraped. many of thier parts are being used to further other relations, much of the old beliskner class technology has been given to the tauri for use in their ships. However the class was not enitrely devoted to the Tauri, out of the fire of thor's hammer the Valkyrie class has evolved.
The valkyrie is a powerfull destroyer class asgard vessel, designed to attack and defend asgard protected planets from the goauld, they are less powerful than the oniels, but utilise Beliskner class technology so are able to be produced in larger quantities while still retaining much of the offensive potency of their decommisioned ancestor.

The valkryie class is equiped with 1 Ion neutrino reactor, 1 shield generator and 1 Asgard hyperdrive generator. Which means from one Beliskner class 4 valkyries can be created. The only new system is the weapons, which are a smaller scaled version of the Conventional Ion cannon weapons seen on Oniel class ships.

The Asgard have create 25 of the ships in 3 years and after the defeat of the replicators by the Tauri they have devoted them in to defence of non-asgard facilities. There are several opperating in the Pegasus galaxy around atlantis ( able to take out several hives as a unit and thus aiding to defence significantly) plus a special battlegroup of 12 of these ships created that is dedicated to the defence of Earth and ready to be deployed with only a seconds notice.

Each of the ships is able to destroy 5 hataks before shield failure and destruction, and therefore earth has been granted protection from almost any goauld invasion, with the battlegroup being able to defend against 60 hataks in orbit around the planet without defeat.

These ships are not able to destroy Ori class warships, although they can sustain 6 hits from a Ori beam cannon with the Asgard shield technology; the weapons cant penetrate ori shields however are able to weaken them. A fleet of 40 valkyries is estimated the reuired fleet to take out a Ori warship; compared to the 6 oniel's it would take in thier absense.

Overall the Valkyrie class is one of the best reuse's of technology there has ever been, and while the Asgard see the ship as a poor replacement for the beliskner class, the worlds which have these ships in orbital defence see them as the way forward in the Asgard's ship development plans.


Ok there is the other one.
Immhotep

[Buba uognarf]

cool immhotep, should we include that ship in the virtual fleet battles?

[rosstaylor]

while it looks pretty cool, the front of the ships doesn't contain ancient heritage, i don't think a cone is that easy to produce n that size

[immhotep]

cool immhotep, should we include that ship in the virtual fleet battles?

We could indeed i think the virtual fleet could have these as one of the designs, in fact im now know what my new fleet battle will be about.

[Buba uognarf]

We could indeed i think the virtual fleet could have these as one of the designs, in fact im now know what my new fleet battle will be about.

asgard vs wraith?

[Daryl Froggy]

Name: Behemoth class superfreighter.
Dimensions: 1000 mL 100 mW 80 mH
Crew: 10
Power: 1 Baron mk 1 fission reactor, as well as a hull lined with solar panels.
Hull: Steel and Aluminum.
Engine: Heavy duty ion engine.
Defenses: None, must rely on escort ships for protection.
Weapons: 1 anti-debris low grade rotary cannon.
Notes: The Behemoth is the heavy hauler for the Kvarnum Fuedality. Its immense cargo hold is neccesary for continued trade among the inner worlds. Behemoths are not expected to venture into the outer system, that will be left for the smaller and faster light freighters.

Very interesting, good even, but I'm not sure any space ship should have permanent solar panels on their hull. The panels would be too fragile and break the moment a piece of dust hit them.

But other than that the only problem I had was the size, how many of these Behemoths Is the Kvarnum Fuedality going to have?

Here are a few more questions, What do the Kvarnum use for armor, what do they use as sensors, do they have colonies on other planets in their solar system, How sould they fare if the Ori were to invade their system, why do they call their ship Behemoth when they have never met another race?

[jds1982]

Very interesting, good even, but I'm not sure any space ship should have permanent solar panels on their hull. The panels would be too fragile and break the moment a piece of dust hit them.

But other than that the only problem I had was the size, how many of these Behemoths Is the Kvarnum Fuedality going to have?

Here are a few more questions, What do the Kvarnum use for armor, what do they use as sensors, do they have colonies on other planets in their solar system, How sould they fare if the Ori were to invade their system, why do they call their ship Behemoth when they have never met another race?

I don't know if I agree with the solar panels, most of our satallites and space probes have solar panels, and it's not like they can't be replaced, in fact I'n sure they would when a ship went in for maintenance. They're not really permanent, more semi permanent modular panels. I got the idea from Earths supertankers, so it's supposed to be pretty huge, most of it is meant for cargo, so it's pretty much empty shell. I was thinking maybe a fleet of 10 or so. They're not very fast, so they make up for that by having the capacity to haul enormous amounts of cargo.
Kvarnum warships use depleted uranium for armor as well as ceramic ablative armor. They use radar, optics, spectrometers, and magnetometers for sensors, same kind of stuff we'd be expected to use. The Kvarnum Feudality consists of the 3 habitable worlds in their inner system, plus their moons, but they've begun to establish some facilities and small colonies in their outer system.
If the Ori invaded the Kvarnum would probably be wiped out within a matter of hours, seeing as how their most powerful weapons are fission warheads. That's why I'm thinking of placing them in one of the MW's satallite galaxies. They could still possibly have contact with some SG races (Asgard, Tau'ri), but remain unmolested by the Goa'uld, or Ori.
Behemoth simply refers to the size of the ship, and to be quite honest I'm not sure why that should have anything to do with another race. Thank you for the compliments though, perhaps I might start trying to model these ships, any suggestions?

[Daryl Froggy]

I don't know if I agree with the solar panels, most of our satallites and space probes have solar panels, and it's not like they can't be replaced, in fact I'n sure they would when a ship went in for maintenance. They're not really permanent, more semi permanent modular panels. I got the idea from Earths supertankers, so it's supposed to be pretty huge, most of it is meant for cargo, so it's pretty much empty shell. I was thinking maybe a fleet of 10 or so. They're not very fast, so they make up for that by having the capacity to haul enormous amounts of cargo.
Kvarnum warships use depleted uranium for armor as well as ceramic ablative armor. The Kvarnum Feudality consists of the 3 habitable worlds in their inner system, plus their moons, but they've begun to establish some facilities and small colonies in their outer system.
If the Ori invaded the Kvarnum would probably be wiped out within a matter of hours, seeing as how their most powerful weapons are fission warheads.
Behemoth simply refers to the size of the ship, and to be quite honest I'm not sure why that should have anything to do with another race. Thank you for the compliments though, perhaps I might start trying to model these ships, any suggestions?

Because "Behemoth" is a word that originated from Earth, if this race never met another race then how could they know the word? Ten ships of that size seem a bit excessive to me but you know their resources better than me.

So why are there three habital worlds in their solar systems?

[jds1982]

Because "Behemoth" is a word that originated from Earth, if this race never met another race then how could they know the word? Ten ships of that size seem a bit excessive to me but you know their resources better than me.

So why are there three habital worlds in their solar systems?

Well my explanation for that is, that's what it translates to. I haven't exactly sat down and created an alien language so I sorta have to use English. It's not farfetched to think an alien race would come up with a word that means "really big". As for the 3 habitable worlds, they just got lucky. If Venus and Mars had taken different paths we might have 3 habitable planets, if we end up terraforming them we will.

[Daryl Froggy]

Ok, just wanted to clarify.