"Outcast" Pre-Airing and Speculation (Spoilers)

[PG15]

This is from the Comic Con SGA panel:

Question: I know that Joe Flanigan wanted to do more Sheppard backstory, but will fans really see it?

Joe Mallozzi: In fact, actually, that’s what we were talking about on Friday. We’re spinning Sheppard’s backstory, specifically the fact that in “Letters from Pegasus,” he didn’t really seem to have anyone out there and the question is sort of ‘why?’ and it’s something we discussed on Friday and we’ve got something really cool planned which I’m not at liberty to reveal right now, but Joe [Flanigan] came up with a great springboard for a story. We’re going back to Earth-

Joe Flanigan: Was that the one that’s not scrapped? I just wanted..

Joe Mallozzi: You’ll love it, trust me, you’ll love it.

http://wraithfodder.livejournal.com/85558.html

Special thanks to prion for transcribing it for those of us outside the USA. Remember to green her lots!

[Alipeeps]

*runs around squeeeing madly*

What I love about the comment above is that it not only confirms that the ep will include the backstory and exactly what parts of his backstory (i.e. his family - or lack of?) but it very much sounds like thie ep centers around the backstory - that that is the focus or impetus of the story - which means that, hopefully, we won't end up with another Epiphany where the backstory elements got cut.

[scifi_lemon]

This is from the Comic Con SGA panel:

http://wraithfodder.livejournal.com/85558.html

Special thanks to prion for transcribing it for those of us outside the USA. Remember to green her lots!

*runs around squeeeing madly*

What I love about the comment above is that it not only confirms that the ep will include the backstory and exactly what parts of his backstory (i.e. his family - or lack of?) but it very much sounds like thie ep centers around the backstory - that that is the focus or impetus of the story - which means that, hopefully, we won't end up with another Epiphany where the backstory elements got cut.

*does squee! dance* Eek! This ep sounds awesome! I totally agree with you Alipeeps, it sounds like backstory is going to be the main focus. Squee! At last we'll get some real backstory for Shep!!

[Xicer]

Update:

Finally, we will get around to breaking that Sheppard on Earth story next week along with what we hope will be the season finale.

http://josephmallozzi.blogspot.com/2...st-2-2007.html

[PG15]

Now this is odd, since Joe has mentioned a few times in the past (and at Comic Con) how they've already at the spinning stage of this story.

I've got to ask him a few questions...

[Alipeeps]

Now this is odd, since Joe has mentioned a few times in the past (and at Comic Con) how they've already at the spinning stage of this story.

I've got to ask him a few questions...

Um.. I think the difference is between spinning and breaking. From my understanding, spinning is them sitting around discussing the story idea and what to do with it and developing it into a plot (which they've already done on this ep) and then breaking it (which they are planning to now do) is actually sitting down and writing the basic plot/storyboard for the episode and actually breaking it down scene by scene as to what will happen and how.

[PG15]

Hmmm...you might be right there. I just searched Joe's blog and came up with this:

And it turned out to be a good call. We needed the energy as we finally finished breaking Rise of the Googlions Part I today. I’ll be doing the honors, which means I get to work on the outline this weekend.

http://josephmallozzi.blogspot.com/2...ne-8-2007.html

So breaking comes right before Outline-making? Crap...did I just show utter ignorance in front of Joe?! Oh, how can I live with myself now?!

[Alipeeps]

So breaking comes right before Outline-making? Crap...did I just show utter ignorance in front of Joe?! Oh, how can I live with myself now?!

My understanding of the process is:

1. Spinning the story (getting the general idea of setting, events, outcome etc)
2. Breaking the story (really taking it apart and breaking it into acts and what will happen when and how)
3. Outline (putting together an outline of the story, how it will break down scene by scene with what happens where and when in the story etc)
4. Writing the damn script!

P.S. Worry not... compared to half the posters on Joe's blog, you are a shining beacon of intellectual excellence, wit and poise...

[PG15]

I rather like that description.

Thanks!

[scifi_lemon]

My understanding of the process is:

1. Spinning the story (getting the general idea of setting, events, outcome etc)
2. Breaking the story (really taking it apart and breaking it into acts and what will happen when and how)
3. Outline (putting together an outline of the story, how it will break down scene by scene with what happens where and when in the story etc)
4. Writing the damn script!

P.S. Worry not... compared to half the posters on Joe's blog, you are a shining beacon of intellectual excellence, wit and poise...

See, what I'm most curious about this ep (besides the fact that we get to learn more about Shep's backstory! squee!) is how they're going to still make it cool and scifi-y. What do you think brings him to Earth? We've mentioned family issues, but what about something to do with his gene? Thoughts?

I rather like that description.

Thanks!

It's sad but true.

[starfox]

See, what I'm most curious about this ep (besides the fact that we get to learn more about Shep's backstory! squee!) is how they're going to still make it cool and scifi-y. What do you think brings him to Earth? We've mentioned family issues, but what about something to do with his gene? Thoughts?

For some reason, I think the sci-fi elements will be a bigger part of the B-plot in this ep. Or maybe there will be issues on the Daedalus, a la "Intruders". Or maybe Shep attempts to hide from his family by hanging out in the SGC labs, helping them with the Ancient tech.

And then his estranged father/mother/sister/brother/cousin/gerbil comes on base to talk to him, and in the middle of an awkward conversation, something he activated goes wonky, and he has to save the day.
"You wanted to know about my life? Well this is it!" (attempts to do something heroic and falls flat on his behind. Achieves heroism on second go-round)

[PG15]

News from JM:

PG-15 writes: ...2. You mentioned breaking the Shep-on-Earth story next week, but I thought you guys have already spun it out, or at least broken it already? 3. So, Martin Gero is doing "Harmony"? Wow, so he's writing his "Three's Company" episode, the JF-pitched story, AND Harmony? He's going to be busy.”

Answers: ...2. We started spinning the story but took a break to work on Harmony, then will switch gears again to work on the Sheppard on Earth story next week. 3. Martin was writing the Sheppard on Earth story but, having finished Trio (formerly Three’s Company), he will start on Harmony while Alan McCullough assumes writing duties on the JF-inspired eppy.

http://josephmallozzi.blogspot.com/2...st-3-2007.html

[Killdeer]

News from JM:

<snip>while Alan McCullough assumes writing duties on the JF-inspired eppy.

Oh drat. And I was so excited about this one too. Maybe I jinxed it. I know MG can't write everything, but..... *sigh* This is a major disappointment. Gero's done so well with McKay backstory. I was really looking forward to seeing what he could do with Shep backstory.

[scifi_lemon]

For some reason, I think the sci-fi elements will be a bigger part of the B-plot in this ep. Or maybe there will be issues on the Daedalus, a la "Intruders". Or maybe Shep attempts to hide from his family by hanging out in the SGC labs, helping them with the Ancient tech.

And then his estranged father/mother/sister/brother/cousin/gerbil comes on base to talk to him, and in the middle of an awkward conversation, something he activated goes wonky, and he has to save the day.
"You wanted to know about my life? Well this is it!" (attempts to do something heroic and falls flat on his behind. Achieves heroism on second go-round)

*snort* That's one of the funniest things I've read in a while It's totally something I could see happening.

Oh drat. And I was so excited about this one too. Maybe I jinxed it. I know MG can't write everything, but..... *sigh* This is a major disappointment. Gero's done so well with McKay backstory. I was really looking forward to seeing what he could do with Shep backstory.

*joins in the dissapointment* What has Allan written? Just so we can get an idea of what we can expect.

[Killdeer]

*joins in the dissapointment* What has Allan written? Just so we can get an idea of what we can expect.

I'm thinking PG15 will get this answered before I get it posted but....

Prototype
Stronghold
Off The Grid
Arthur's Mantle
Insiders
Company of Thieves
Line in the Sand
The Road Not Taken

I think he's also doing Tabula Rasa and The Seer.

I can't say I've been particularly taken with anything he's done so far. I don't hate them (except for Insiders), but they'll probably never go on a favorites list. Arthur's Mantle is probably the one I like the best of the bunch.