Announcement

**ToasterOnFire** · 04 November 2005, 03:02 PM

Hey guys, FFF is coming but fanfiction.net has been down for me for the past several hours. I'm going to wait until it's back online since most of the McKay/Weir stories are there, so the fic post is going to be delayed until then. Your patience is appreciated.

**ToasterOnFire** · 05 November 2005, 03:49 PM

Ack! fanfiction.net is still down for me! Is anyone else having this problem?

...and where did everyone go?

I know we have a new episode drought until the end of Nov for some and schools are back up and running for lots of shippers. Ah, the good old days when I had homework and tests. Now I just have one huge exam to go.

So for some conversation: what was your favorite shippy scene from the first half of season two and what episode/spoiler are you most looking forward to in the second half?
For me,

Spoiler:

I guess I'll go make some icons.

**unknownterra** · 05 November 2005, 03:56 PM

At the Melbourne convention Torri said that Weir doesn't like Rodney's character. Maybe you people should give it up, huh? Oh well, we all have the right to dream.....

**weirfan517** · 05 November 2005, 04:15 PM

Hey, Toaster, sorry I haven't been around, I really haven't had much to say and about FF, I guess it might be you cuz I'm getting in just fine, yesterday I wasn'tb though. To answer your question, I'd have to say

Spoiler:

**aaobuttons** · 05 November 2005, 06:04 PM

Well, I've been rather disappointed with season 2 as far as shippyness goes. If I had to pick my moment, I'd say

Spoiler:

I look forward to any episode that has Rodney/Elizabeth scenes together.

**dahan** · 05 November 2005, 08:08 PM

Fav scene in the first half of S2? Have to go with "Duet"

Spoiler:

A little thought on "GUP" while I'm here.

Spoiler:

Kinds of cuts off Elizabeth and Rodney interaction at the knees doesn't it?

**melpomene** · 05 November 2005, 09:42 PM

Originally posted by unknownterra

At the Melbourne convention Torri said that Weir doesn't like Rodney's character. Maybe you people should give it up, huh? Oh well, we all have the right to dream.....

Now see I don't get that. She was practically worshipping him before. Praising his 'heroic' efforts, listening very carefully to anything he said. Taking his opionion oh-so-seriosly. Maybe 'like' is the wrong word for thier relationship. heck, 'like' might be the wrong word for anyone's relationship with Rodney McKay. But some people, trust/respect/tolerate him more than others and I think Weir is one of them. She seems to bring out the best in him and (with the exception of a couple mistakes) vice versa

**Chrysalis** · 05 November 2005, 10:27 PM

Originally posted by unknownterra

At the Melbourne convention Torri said that Weir doesn't like Rodney's character. Maybe you people should give it up, huh? Oh well, we all have the right to dream.....

Time to clarify... I was at the Melbourne con too, and you McKay/Weir people probably need to put the comment in context.
Torri didn't say that Elizabeth doesn't like Rodney.
What happened was that someone asked her which character on Atlantis was her favourite. She said she'd like to say Rodney, but he's always irritating Elizabeth, so she'd have to pick Teyla.
What that means is that Rodney actually is her favourite character, as far as I'm concerned, and everyone knows that Rodney's annoying nature is actually the most appealing thing about him (isn't that why we love him??)
She was full of praise for DH, and acutally said he's the one who makes them laugh all the time. She said he's very much like McKay, because he's a hypochondriac (as in "OMG! Who sneezed? Did someone sneeze? Oh, now I'm going to get sick. Great... I can feel it coming on now"), and he talks really fast!
I'm a Shep/Weir person (but I love you guys!! Honestly! Any of you are welcome in my little corner of GW any time!). I also love the interaction between Shep/Weir/McKay, though.
As for shipper stuff. FYI, while she did mention 'sexual tension' in the Shep/Weir context, she also said Elizabeth's the chick in charge, so she can't be running around holding hands with John Sheppard. She also said she'd love to have RDA or MS to pay Elizabeth a visit, and the 8 armed alien came up yet again!!
Hope this makes you feel better!!!

**unknownterra** · 06 November 2005, 12:11 AM

I thought she meant that she personally liked Rodney but he's not Elizabeth's favourite? Rodney is so hard to like considering the way he treats people a lot of the time, and I think

Spoiler:

Personally I think Rodney needs more 'individually saving people from doom scenes' to get a good reputation in the eyes of Weir. We SO need more of hero Rodney on the show.

**aaobuttons** · 06 November 2005, 06:04 AM

Originally posted by dahan

A little thought on "GUP" while I'm here.

Spoiler:

Kinds of cuts off Elizabeth and Rodney interaction at the knees doesn't it?

I think it depends on how the show plays out.

Spoiler:

**aaobuttons** · 06 November 2005, 06:39 AM

Originally posted by unknownterra

At the Melbourne convention Torri said that Weir doesn't like Rodney's character. Maybe you people should give it up, huh? Oh well, we all have the right to dream.....

What's with the 'you people' comment? You're not one of 'those people' who are negative towards anyone who doesn't agree with you, are you?

Originally posted by unknownterra

Personally I think Rodney needs more 'individually saving people from doom scenes' to get a good reputation in the eyes of Weir. We SO need more of hero Rodney on the show.

I'm going to have to disagree with you there. We already have our typical hero on the show in Sheppard. One of the things I like about Rodney is that he's the reluctant hero. He never goes into a situation thinking 'I'm going to put my life on the line today'. When he stepped in front of the gun for Elizabeth or started shooting at the wraith to save Shep, he did it out of instinct to save their lives, not to be a hero. And in both situations he panicked a bit afterwords when he realized what he had done, which was even more endearing.

Elizabeth doesn't need him to save more people for her to think good of him. He's already saved the entire city at least five times, and he's saved his team more than that. His job was to be a scientist and he's done way more since coming to Atlantis. Elizabeth wouldn't have picked him to be her right hand so to speak if he needed to prove anything to her.

**Royal_Nonesuch** · 06 November 2005, 06:42 AM

Originally posted by alyssa

Time to clarify... I was at the Melbourne con too, and you McKay/Weir people probably need to put the comment in context.
Torri didn't say that Elizabeth doesn't like Rodney.
What happened was that someone asked her which character on Atlantis was her favourite. She said she'd like to say Rodney, but he's always irritating Elizabeth, so she'd have to pick Teyla.
What that means is that Rodney actually is her favourite character, as far as I'm concerned, and everyone knows that Rodney's annoying nature is actually the most appealing thing about him (isn't that why we love him??)
She was full of praise for DH, and acutally said he's the one who makes them laugh all the time. She said he's very much like McKay, because he's a hypochondriac (as in "OMG! Who sneezed? Did someone sneeze? Oh, now I'm going to get sick. Great... I can feel it coming on now"), and he talks really fast!
I'm a Shep/Weir person (but I love you guys!! Honestly! Any of you are welcome in my little corner of GW any time!). I also love the interaction between Shep/Weir/McKay, though.
As for shipper stuff. FYI, while she did mention 'sexual tension' in the Shep/Weir context, she also said Elizabeth's the chick in charge, so she can't be running around holding hands with John Sheppard. She also said she'd love to have RDA or MS to pay Elizabeth a visit, and the 8 armed alien came up yet again!!
Hope this makes you feel better!!!

I remember that from your report Alyssa and I agree--I think Rodney is Torri's fave character (judging from interviews). About "irritating" Weir, I think it's somehwat similar ot a class clown situation, if you are the hall monitor you can't show favoritism to the trouble-maker simply to keep order. I think Weir is in much the same boat, she can't laugh out loud at Rodney's nasty comments even if she wants to because of her status.

Hopefully that makes sense (was up too late watching From the Earth to the Moon)

In short, Alyssa is right Mc/Weir(s) have nothing to worry about--in fact, it's slightly encouraging IMO.

Later all (still working on my fic--it'll eventually be published!)

Royal

**ToasterOnFire** · 06 November 2005, 06:48 AM

Originally posted by unknownterra

At the Melbourne convention Torri said that Weir doesn't like Rodney's character. Maybe you people should give it up, huh? Oh well, we all have the right to dream.....

1) I was going to go into great detail here asking about that particular quote, but it would seem that alyssa has cleared things up (thank you!

) While I can see that Rodney irritates Elizabeth from time to time, especially after the events of Trinity, I just couldn't believe that she dislikes him. Rather, like melpomene stated, I think she can get frustrated with him, but ultimately she respects him, listens to him, and tends to enjoy his company a lot more than other people do. After reading what alyssa reported, that quote makes much more sense and still doesn't really shut the door on McKay/Weir.

2) Still, there is a great chance that this ship will not become canon. I already know that, and I think most of the shippers here know that too. But that's not the point of shipping for me. For me it's about taking two characters that I personally think work well together and finding canon scenes that can be interpreted as shippy. It's about speculation, what ifs, taking ideas and scenarios and expanding on them in fanfic or discussion. It's about finding people that also like this ship and enjoying talking with them about it. So I don't require canon events to enjoy this ship (though some more scenes between the two in the remaining half of season two would certainly help!

)

3) If you don't like the idea of McKay/Weir or think that us shippers are all crazy for enjoying it or keeping the torch burning that's fine. I try to respect everyone's opinion and I try to work hard to keep this thread comfortable for everyone - shippers, friendshippers, nonshippers. But coming in here and stating that "you people should give it up" and that we're "dreaming" isn't the best way to go about things. However, looking at your second post it would appear that you weren't honesty trying to stir up trouble here. It's important that everyone respects each other's likes and opinions here. Thanks!

Jeez, I'm never going to get the FFF done.

**aaobuttons** · 06 November 2005, 06:51 AM

Originally posted by alyssa

Time to clarify... I was at the Melbourne con too, and you McKay/Weir people probably need to put the comment in context.
Torri didn't say that Elizabeth doesn't like Rodney.
What happened was that someone asked her which character on Atlantis was her favourite. She said she'd like to say Rodney, but he's always irritating Elizabeth, so she'd have to pick Teyla.
What that means is that Rodney actually is her favourite character, as far as I'm concerned, and everyone knows that Rodney's annoying nature is actually the most appealing thing about him (isn't that why we love him??)
She was full of praise for DH, and acutally said he's the one who makes them laugh all the time. She said he's very much like McKay, because he's a hypochondriac (as in "OMG! Who sneezed? Did someone sneeze? Oh, now I'm going to get sick. Great... I can feel it coming on now"), and he talks really fast!
I'm a Shep/Weir person (but I love you guys!! Honestly! Any of you are welcome in my little corner of GW any time!). I also love the interaction between Shep/Weir/McKay, though.
As for shipper stuff. FYI, while she did mention 'sexual tension' in the Shep/Weir context, she also said Elizabeth's the chick in charge, so she can't be running around holding hands with John Sheppard. She also said she'd love to have RDA or MS to pay Elizabeth a visit, and the 8 armed alien came up yet again!!
Hope this makes you feel better!!!

Thanks for the clarification Alyssa! I can definetly see her saying something like this. Rodney _is_ irritating, and yes, that's why we all love him!

I think that's why I chose the

Spoiler:

line as my fav for season 2 so far. She knows all the facets of Rodney, not just the irritating (or heroic) sides of him, but the whole person.

**aaobuttons** · 06 November 2005, 06:55 AM

Originally posted by ToasterOnFire

1)
Jeez, I'm never going to get the FFF done.

We can wait... impatiently... but we can wait!

Announcement

Rodney McKay/Elizabeth Weir Discussion/Ship/Appreciation

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment