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Not just recently, but for years now, JF has been openly disdainful of the way Torri and Paul were treated, especially Torri. At every con, any time her name comes up he goes off on how badly she was treated. He has said a lot of critical things about TPTB, including how he was cut out of the loop when he protested some of their decisions. Oh yeah, he's still pissed, and it takes very little to get him off on the subject. He has consistently said that the actors were treated very badly.
Good to see you JT! And welcome to you Pearls!
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Originally posted by Royal_Nonesuch View PostThanks for that info. It's nice that they can speak more freely now but it still just stinks that it went down the way it did. I eve remember rumors back when Torri was leaving that she didn't get along with Joe etc. In actuality, it looks like it was management all along.
Good to see you JT! And welcome to you Pearls!
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Originally posted by Southern Red View PostOh we even got to the bottom of those rumors. It seems they loved to argue politics, and being from opposite ends of the spectrum it sometimes got a little heated. Mr. SR and I had a short but informative conversation with Joe about it at a con, and some other fans talked to Torri about the same thing. They get particularly heated up if you mention the Washington Post. LOL But in case you don't know, they have been doing cons together the last few years and had a particularly lovely time on stage together in Marseilles. *points to avatar* So I think those rumors have been put to rest, and I questioned who started them to begin with.
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Originally posted by JT-2 View PostI'm still bitter they weren't on stage together last year in Chicago.(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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Thanks for that. I love you avatar, btw. I suspected as much. I like to argue politics with some of my close friends, so i know exactly what they are talking about. I don't want to go too over the top, but do you think it's possible some of the show's publicists leaked that kind of stuff? It's more likely just a rumor that started on a board somewhere, but I'm certainly put off by the details that I am starting to hear. The way Torri H and Paul M were treated was not OK, imo
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Originally posted by Brie View PostOh, I know something that they could have fixed with ‘Tao of Rodney’, in the scene between Elizabeth and Rodney when he says that maybe she could ascend but he wouldn’t be able to, maybe they could have shown a bit of a vulnerable side to Elizabeth and had her point out that maybe she could have done it at some point but that she feared that with the nanites in her that it would be impossible (not saying that it would be but she could still be afraid that it would) and then they could have either added to Rodney’s book idea or maybe even have him find a way to fix it somehow, and even if he wouldn’t have found it in this episode but maybe he could have stumbled upon it in season 4-5, that the solution to the nanite problem was one of the things his smarter self came up with that he in the end of the episode didn’t know what he had written.
Well, I don’t know if that would be possible but it could have been great had it been written well, and it also could have helped Rodney’s sister after she got infected.
Oh well, it might just be a crazy thing that came from a very tired mind. I’ll see you all later.
Originally posted by Royal_Nonesuch View PostThanks for that. I love you avatar, btw. I suspected as much. I like to argue politics with some of my close friends, so i know exactly what they are talking about. I don't want to go too over the top, but do you think it's possible some of the show's publicists leaked that kind of stuff? It's more likely just a rumor that started on a board somewhere, but I'm certainly put off by the details that I am starting to hear. The way Torri H and Paul M were treated was not OK, imosigpicsig by Erin Atlantis Rising: The Virtual series Thank you so much for "Primum Movens"
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Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostAnd I'll bet you they won't be on stage together in Chicago this year, either. They're both scheduled for Saturday, but no dual photo op. I think that says it all.
Originally posted by Royal_Nonesuch View PostThanks for that. I love you avatar, btw. I suspected as much. I like to argue politics with some of my close friends, so i know exactly what they are talking about. I don't want to go too over the top, but do you think it's possible some of the show's publicists leaked that kind of stuff? It's more likely just a rumor that started on a board somewhere, but I'm certainly put off by the details that I am starting to hear. The way Torri H and Paul M were treated was not OK, imo
Anyone who thinks they don't like each other is welcome to study this slideshow I made using KrisRussel's wonderful pics from the Marseilles con. If you want to be able to click on the little arrows and get full screen, go here. Then you can see when he reaches over and pulls her chair closer, and witness up close that the amazing chemistry between them extends to RL also without any nasty RPS vibes.
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Good morning, Sparkies! Happy Canon Monday!
Originally posted by Brie View PostOh, I know something that they could have fixed with ‘Tao of Rodney’, in the scene between Elizabeth and Rodney when he says that maybe she could ascend but he wouldn’t be able to, maybe they could have shown a bit of a vulnerable side to Elizabeth and had her point out that maybe she could have done it at some point but that she feared that with the nanites in her that it would be impossible (not saying that it would be but she could still be afraid that it would) and then they could have either added to Rodney’s book idea or maybe even have him find a way to fix it somehow, and even if he wouldn’t have found it in this episode but maybe he could have stumbled upon it in season 4-5, that the solution to the nanite problem was one of the things his smarter self came up with that he in the end of the episode didn’t know what he had written.
Well, I don’t know if that would be possible but it could have been great had it been written well, and it also could have helped Rodney’s sister after she got infected.
Oh well, it might just be a crazy thing that came from a very tired mind. I’ll see you all later.
Originally posted by Pearl of Atlantis76 View PostFrom what i always read and from what i have seen of Cons and photos of Cons i can not believe that there was any animosity between Torri and Joe at the time Torri left the show or even afterwards. I have red somewhere that in the beginning of the show they seemed not to get along that well, but i think it was related with the opposite political opinions both of them have, like SR has mentioned. I truly believe those were rumours that were spread in order to give the idea that was Torri who wanted to leave the show.
Originally posted by Southern Red View PostThey always seem to want to separate the men and women, don't they? And who'll bet that they will put Joe and David together again? They'll keep repeating that until everybody has seen them and hears the same stories yet again. Don't they realize fandom is ready for something new?
Originally posted by Southern Red View PostAnyone who thinks they don't like each other is welcome to study this slideshow I made using KrisRussel's wonderful pics from the Marseilles con. If you want to be able to click on the little arrows and get full screen, go here. Then you can see when he reaches over and pulls her chair closer, and witness up close that the amazing chemistry between them extends to RL also without any nasty RPS vibes.
https://vimeo.com/31854513(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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Originally posted by Southern Red View PostThey always seem to want to separate the men and women, don't they? And who'll bet that they will put Joe and David together again? They'll keep repeating that until everybody has seen them and hears the same stories yet again. Don't they realize fandom is ready for something new?
I doubt a publicist leaked any rumors like that. I think this particular one was ship related but the proof disappeared years ago along with the haters who started it. So, before we get modded, this should probably be the end of that discussion.
Anyone who thinks they don't like each other is welcome to study this slideshow I made using KrisRussel's wonderful pics from the Marseilles con. If you want to be able to click on the little arrows and get full screen, go Then you can see when he reaches over and pulls her chair closer, and witness up close that the amazing chemistry between them extends to RL also without any nasty RPS vibes.
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Originally posted by Southern Red View PostThey always seem to want to separate the men and women, don't they? And who'll bet that they will put Joe and David together again? They'll keep repeating that until everybody has seen them and hears the same stories yet again. Don't they realize fandom is ready for something new?
I doubt a publicist leaked any rumors like that. I think this particular one was ship related but the proof disappeared years ago along with the haters who started it. So, before we get modded, this should probably be the end of that discussion.
Anyone who thinks they don't like each other is welcome to study this slideshow I made using KrisRussel's wonderful pics from the Marseilles con. If you want to be able to click on the little arrows and get full screen, go here. Then you can see when he reaches over and pulls her chair closer, and witness up close that the amazing chemistry between them extends to RL also without any nasty RPS vibes.
I really would love to go to a convention with the two of them togehter but, alas, I doubt they would both come to England anyway. Such a shame.sigpic
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*iz ded from SR's vid and KrisRussell's pics*
oh the beauty of sparky
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