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That's a pretty lazy copout answer, IM(not so)HO
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I think that's what they were going for though before the show got cancelled.Originally posted by DigiFluid View PostThat's a pretty lazy copout answer, IM(not so)HOPlease do me a huge favour and help me be with the love of my life.Comment
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I was thinking about this the other day, after reading some of the Doctor Who backstory (there are so many different timelines going on there that it is crazy). Every time there is a time travel story in Trek it changes the timeline. And, just like Doctor Who, there are now so many alternate timelines happening that it makes my head spin trying to keep them all straight.
The one from First Contact is one of the bigger ones, but just look at what happened in TNG, VOY, TOS, and even on DS9. I'm curious how many episodes are still technically canon in the current timeline (even ignoring Enterprise). Not many I'd bet. Most of those things either never happened or happened in a different fashion due to the constant temporal meddling.Comment
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Let's just assume that, despite all the temporal mucking around, there's an agency from the 1 millionth century that straightens everything out. So EVERYTHING we know and love was, is, and forever shall be canon.
Take the DS9 episode with the 'first' Emissary. The Prophets changed time by putting him back when he was first taken, and everything still happened the same way as before, except Kira got some reading material to comfort her during the resistance. I'm sure the small details change, but on the macro-level, everything's the same. Sure, 7 million people aren't a small detail, but perhaps they'd have died from a plague or something we don't know about anyway.
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That's a good point, and I actually do make that assumption. I assume that the "temporal cold war" is just a small, local part of a much larger war that likely spans all of time in the ST universe. After all, time travel is so easy in their reality that the temptation to make just a tiny alteration must be phenomenal (*cough*Janeway*cough*... and Seven... and Harry... and Chakotay... geez, was there anyone on that ship that didn't mess with the timeline? No wonder Braxton was so miffed. I would have been too!).Originally posted by nx01a View Post
With all of those changes going on you'd think that the ripple effect from their actions in the past (or the future for that matter) would severely alter the timeline. Since this doesn't seem to be the case, it is only logical to assume that either, 1) Historical inertia keeps things going on a similar track, 2) There is some agency (or a series of different agencies) that is constantly making corrections, attempting to make sure that major events still unfurl in more or less the same way even if the individuals involved are different.Comment
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poorly written, yes some episodes were dreadfulOriginally posted by DigiFluid View Post
poorly acted ?
Hell No !Comment
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I absolutely LOVED this show. I never had any problems with it. I thought that the Xindi arc was even better then the rest of the show!Xavier Cortez in GWRP
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...because there was no Dean Stockwell to make Scott Bakula bearable.
I liked it, for the most part, probably because it's the ST show that I've seen the most of...
not that I'm saying it's any better than the others, probably still the worst ST series, but I enjoy it.
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I loved ENT. Got me back into Trek. Since then i have watched all DS9 and VOY. ENT is probably my 2nd favourite behind DS9.
The Xindi arc was Trek at it's best.
Imo, the good far outwayed the bad.
I agree. Just have to look at modern sci-fi in shows like BSG + Heroes.Originally posted by Trek_Girl42 View PostScience Fiction is an existential metaphor; it allows us to tell stories about the human condition.
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I loved Enterprise, but then I love all Star Trek with the possible exception of some of DS9, only because I didn't like the Odo character.Comment
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It's a magical liopleurodon! It will show us the waaaaaaaaaaay!Comment
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I don't hate Enterprise but I do feel like many others that it would have benefited from not being cancelled! The first two seasons were really a case of finding some sort of justification for it being made. I really couldn't get into the idea of an alien race totally obsessed with the destruction of the Human Race, there was never any explanation for the actual reason behind it from what I recall, or maybe I missed something there.
I enjoyed it mainly for seeing Earth's first steps out into the galaxy.The Enterprise was a wonderful ship that had the look of a believable progression from Cochran's first 'warp ship' seen in 'First Contact'. There were plausible limitations on what these early travellers could achieve and it was always interesting to see how they dealt with situations with the level of technology they had and not what we've got used to in Trek. No tractor beams, phasers on the ship and a general fear of the prototype transporter that they only used as a last resort. That was a nice touch, although I can't help thinking of the transporter scene in 'Galaxy Quest' when I saw reactions to the transporter in Enterprise!
As the Xindi storyline progressed into the final season I actually enjoyed seeing the different evolutionary aspects of the Xindi and how they interacted. This would have been interesting to see more of. The different sides we saw of the Vulcans was also interesting. A logical race resorting to subterfuge and petty sqabbles over borders with the Andorians was...... 'fascinating' *raises eyebrow*
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It's enough to give anyone a headache. 
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