Sanctuary Discussion (Spoilers for the most recent episode)

[suse]

Seriously?

I sometimes think Americans are proud of their limited world knowledge. Sigh. Generalising, I know, but that's what it feels like sometimes.

I sometimes think the same thing and I'm *from* here.

No, not proud of it here. I try.

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[suse]

just out of curiosity - how many people do you actually know that say gday mate

because i dont know anyone who talks the way people think aussies do... its just a caricture started by crocodile dundee and perpetuated by the likes of steve irwin and kath & kim...

as for an aussie sanctuary - id LOVE to do a walk on in that ep

Would be fun.

i can pick up when people have an accent, the problem i have i knowing what the accent actually is now british/southern would be very interesting to hear... i love the southern american accent, its awesome

Dad had a Brooklyn/Southern one. Very strange, though I'd think the English/Southern accent would be weirder.

yup, so we cant day trip to another state unless we live near the boarder... cause from where i am to brisbane [capital of queensland] is a 1.5 hour drive and thus a day trip in itself... now when i was in the states last year we were able to travel between 3 states in one day no problem...

Depends on where you are. There are some many states that take a full day to cross. It's only on the east coast that states are small enough to do that. And even many of orgininal 13 colonies Schoolhouse Rock flashback for all you Yanks out there! take hours.

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[Skydiver]

some states you can drive through several in a day, but here in kansas, it's about 6 hours from east to west

Stargate used to mess that up too...lik having jack go to the cabin for the weekend, minnesota is like 20+ hours drive from colorado

oh, and here in kansas, the only indians we have are the ones that run the casinos, the buffalo live on ranches and make good eating and even when we get over 100 tornadoes in a year, most of them simply spin out in fields and do no damage

[kes]

some states you can drive through several in a day, but here in kansas, it's about 6 hours from east to west

Stargate used to mess that up too...lik having jack go to the cabin for the weekend, minnesota is like 20+ hours drive from colorado

oh, and here in kansas, the only indians we have are the ones that run the casinos, the buffalo live on ranches and make good eating and even when we get over 100 tornadoes in a year, most of them simply spin out in fields and do no damage

LOL It takes about 6hrs to drive from the top to the bottom of my country, less if its sideways. I think I can reach Spain in maybe 3hrs.

[Skydiver]

kansas is 422 wide, and 300ish tall (miles)

from where i am, colorado is about 6 hours away, missouri 1, nebraska 1 to the north and oklahoma 2-3 hours driving

then go to the east coast and the states are so tiny you can zip through 2-3 of them in a single day

[jckfan55]

aah, ok, that makes a bit of a difference

having never been to aussie land I don't have a scope of how big it is

But NZ & Australia look so close on the globe!

Seriously?

I sometimes think Americans are proud of their limited world knowledge. Sigh. Generalising, I know, but that's what it feels like sometimes.

Sigh. I know what you mean. Our geographical education is sorely lacking. Seems like half the people don't even know where our own states are.

yup, so we cant day trip to another state unless we live near the boarder... cause from where i am to brisbane [capital of queensland] is a 1.5 hour drive and thus a day trip in itself... now when i was in the states last year we were able to travel between 3 states in one day no problem...

you must have been out East. Still it may depend on which states you were going through (and how long you consider a day of driving ) . To get to one end of my state (North-South) to the other is about a 6 hour drive. (ETA: oops, I see others have also made this point)

Back on the Sanctuary guest stars---Lucy Lawless (NZ) could be a great adversary for Helen. On the other hand, do you think she'd feel like "stunt casting" since she's well known in SF circles?

[Skydiver]

you'd thikn that helen would have an amazing perspective on distances.

when she came to america and - presumably - made her way up to start her sanctuary, it was horse and wagon or MAYBE train travel. It took her days/weeks/months to get from point a to point b

heck, here in kansas, before 1960's, you did have the train, but to get too far from that it was horse and buggy time

now, in her lifetime - expanded though it may be - she's seen it go from taking weeks to travel to just hours. from letters that take months to arrive, to instant messages and texts

heck, how about the fact that, in my lifetime, the geography i learned in grade school no longer applies? the countries that i had to learn don't exist anymore

[jckfan55]

you'd thikn that helen would have an amazing perspective on distances.

when she came to america and - presumably - made her way up to start her sanctuary, it was horse and wagon or MAYBE train travel. It took her days/weeks/months to get from point a to point b

heck, here in kansas, before 1960's, you did have the train, but to get too far from that it was horse and buggy time

now, in her lifetime - expanded though it may be - she's seen it go from taking weeks to travel to just hours. from letters that take months to arrive, to instant messages and texts

Good point. Thinking of that...the frontier could make for a good isolated Sanctuary--but then she'd be far from supplies. And Magnus is a London girl and I don't really see her becoming "Dr. Magnus, Medicine Woman." (wonders if anyone will remember Dr. Quinn)

[Skydiver]

dr quinn, med chick

i remember her.

the coast is but also isn't too far out of the way. she'd still be in hte path to get supplies via ships from the east, trading vessels coming from down the california coast and japan/china etc

[katjoy]

Ah, the younglings these days Sorry but that isn't correct, it used to be very common and still is in various parts of the country, the entertainment industry certainly didn't start it.

actually i didnt say the entertainment industry started it, i said they perpetuate it and turned it into a caricture and now that is what people think of when they think australians...

Australia in simple terms is bloody big!!!!! And while I consider NZ my cousins across the seas, we are totally different...the Kiwi's have a funny accent that makes the number 6 sound like an act of making love! Don't deny it you Kiwi's...I have family who reside over there!

yes they do... and is fush and chups how it actually sounds or is that just a made up one???

Uhm...lots actually!! I have been known to let it slip on occasion but its not a term I use daily.

Then you haven't met my brother!
It's like the term "crikey"...I actually use that word but not as prolific as I used to years ago...once it became known as Steve Irwin's word I tried to drop it...but it has a habit of sneaking up sometimes and popping out when I least expect.
As for Kath and Kim...that's just not noice! I mean that is just way way out there and drives me bonkers!

my dad uses the word mate when talking to people hes never even met on the phone, but its not in some weird steve irwin voice... and i have heard people use the term crikey, but again not in the out there voice that outsiders associate with us... its not so much the termonology that bugs me but the way outsiders think we say it...

and thats kinda my point, its not noice to be compared to these people as what a typical australian is... its down right insulting... having lived in two states, and been to 4 in total, the fact that i have never met someone who actually sounds like the rest of the world thinks we do suggests to me that somewhere along the line these icons became carictures of what an australian is... but i speak on the whole just like anyone else from english cultures, sure i have a slightly different accent and i say mobile instead of cell as one eg, but i hardly go around speaking in slang and such and i definately dont sound anything like the accent we are all deemed to have...

i have been on numerous forums over the years and therefore have people i talk to all over the world... i cant tell you how many times i have been asked if i like steve irwin when people find out i am from australia... to a lessor extent i have had people bring up crocodile dundee or kath and kim, but that has happened as well... and the conversation is usually followed by do you say gday mate, i love your accents... ive also been asked if i say things ive never even heard of, and have no idea where they got the aussie connection from...

But NZ & Australia look so close on the globe!

Sigh. I know what you mean. Our geographical education is sorely lacking. Seems like half the people don't even know where our own states are.

you must have been out East. Still it may depend on which states you were going through (and how long you consider a day of driving ) . To get to one end of my state (North-South) to the other is about a 6 hour drive. (ETA: oops, I see others have also made this point)

i did birmingham alabama to atlanta georgia to nashville tennessee in one day...

another thing i noticed when in the states is that while we are aware of your alternate words for things americans arent aware of other country's alternatives... my friend and i met up with friends in the states and they didnt know what we ment when we said boot, bonnett, sauce, chips, mobile, lollies, fringe... and thats just off the top of my head...

[scifithinker]

new zealand and australia are, well like the us and canada...so close that they're not really apart

*ducks from angry kiwi's and aussies

my point was, it's lucy's neck of the woods, whichever island it is

Way to insult the Canadian contigent, Sky.

aah, ok, that makes a bit of a difference

having never been to aussie land I don't have a scope of how big it is

I figure that it's got to be pretty big since it's its own continent. D'uh.

Depends on where you are. There are some many states that take a full day to cross. It's only on the east coast that states are small enough to do that. And even many of orgininal 13 colonies Schoolhouse Rock flashback for all you Yanks out there! take hours.

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I can attest to that. I'm currently visiting my sister who's one state to the west. We drove almost nine hours to get here, and it would still take us a few hours to cross the border into another state.

It blew my mind when I first went to Germany and discovered I could be in another country on a day trip.

I wonder how much Helen misses the slower pace of life and how much she regrets Ashley's not having the same kind of slower-paced childhood she had.

[NZNeep]

I would just like to point out that it's the Australians that say sex instead of six. We may need to prove this at AT4... we have 3 Kiwis and 3 Aussies to work with.

[Skydiver]

how about the brit/possible aussie

schedule

we do skedule
you guys do chhedule

[katjoy]

I would just like to point out that it's the Australians that say sex instead of six. We may need to prove this at AT4... we have 3 Kiwis and 3 Aussies to work with.

im aussie and i say 6 as six... and sex as sex...

lol, youll have to let us know the results after AT4

how about the brit/possible aussie

schedule

we do skedule
you guys do chhedule

i say skedule...

then there is castle... carsel or casel... i say the first...

oh, while we are on word pronounciation maybe someone could clear something up that ive really been wanting to know...

aussies say the name aaron as aron ['a' as in apple]... however americans say airin which is how we pronounce the girls name erin... so im just curious how do americans pronounce erin

and while we are on names - craig...

aussies say cr'aye'g and americans say creg

[antoa]

Aaron and Erin are pronounced the same in the US (for the most part - I am sure there are exceptions).