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    Originally posted by Falcon Horus View Post
    Oh so you think that's funny -- any heart diseases in the family? Asthma? Arthritis? Pregnancy? ... no wait, not that last one.
    No, I'm, saying that Congress has a long history of exempting itself from its own laws. It doesn't matter what the issue is.

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      Originally posted by Annoyed View Post
      No, I'm, saying that Congress has a long history of exempting itself from its own laws. It doesn't matter what the issue is.
      Oh, I see.

      So basically, that's the best job one can have in the States.
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        Any country really.
        have a good look at your own political parties, you will probably find that, at least on some issues, they do the same -or- vote themselves some "offset"
        Politics is the power, money is merely the grease in the wheel.
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          I come forth from a politically active family and we're clean in that regard.

          Then again, maybe it's that socialist background's fault.
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            nono, not the voters, the -positions- of power your "congress" or "house" or "senate" (I am not up to date with your countries political system) I -think- you have a multi-layered "house" with several parties that need to form coalitions.
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              For (all of) those who mentioned this health *issue* prior (be it in this thread or elsewhere)..

              Originally posted by SGalisa View Post
              I need my thyroid healed!!!! Plus, my circulatory system needs to be restored (it's lagging from chronic fatigue and edema). A psychologist might help with emotional issues, but where I'm at, Hospice care would be a better support service.

              Originally posted by Falcon Horus View Post
              And as far as medical problems go -- get treatment, and realize how important it is to have good insurance.
              I'd say, be quick about it too cause I have feeling your condition is considered pre-existing and that's not good to have in the US.
              If my condition was pre-existing, I would have been in trouble health-wise ages ago. I think pre-existing depends on the definition of the individual. Most insurance companies have always paid for my medical conditions, pre-existing or new. How else does one transfer to a new job with a different insurance company and get their allergy treatments paid for on a continuing basis? Grant it, I may have had a new set of allergy tests to go thru, but the medicine ended up being over the counter (many, many years later), so there wasn't much of an issue there.

              Heart conditions can be family inherited related. So, all of the doctors I've ever gone to, have always inquired and monitored this thruout most of my entire medical history. I've never kept it a secret either, IMO.


              Originally posted by SGalisa View Post
              Sorry if this sounds a tad abrupt, but I don't need a psychologist..!

              Originally posted by Falcon Horus View Post
              For all it's worth, it's nothing to be ashamed of.

              After all: mens sana in corpore sano - a healthy mind in a healthy body

              Hey, if you like it to be closer to familiar ground, don't chapelins, or pastors, or a reverends do counseling, or you know listen and provide counsel.
              Been thru the Church counseling route, several times. One "Church" made it sort of mandatory, but disguised their counseling sessions as a recommended suggestion, so that would be interviewees would not run into the opposite direction -- meaning, as far, far away from those sessions as possible..! The other Christian counseling was for my marriage, and was done by a real MD (degree) medical doctor. It benefitted both my husband and me, because we went into issues that went deeper than just the surface deep and psychological aspects of one's married life.

              The biggest surprise -- in the marriage counseling -- there was me being informed that what I was expressing was inverted "pride" which is just as severe (of a consequence on God's judgement scale), as boastful pride, itself. I needed to find the balance between the two versions of pride, and then pray about being meek and humble, but without getting humiliated (exasperated) in the process.

              Originally posted by SGalisa View Post
              Sorry if this sounds a tad abrupt, but I don't need a psychologist..!

              Originally posted by Falcon Horus View Post
              For all it's worth, it's nothing to be ashamed of.
              I'm *NOT* ashamed of my health. Jeesh! I used to log in medical care plans for the elderly (at a job I do NOT miss! Huge *Psycho* ward to keep the public from being exposed to, and basically imprison the mentally unstable folks on psychotropic meds from bothering the "normal" visitors to the other ward levels). I *know* what I'm up against should that day ever meet up with me. I also know that psychotropic meds are the method of controlling the patient.. that sort of treatment leads down a very dangerous road, eventually. I've seen the results first hand in the nursing home facilities. Not a pretty picture. Even before the AHCA went into action.

              Besides, I've had encounters with self-proclaimed psychologists (who had the university degrees to *prove* their "certified" educational background) long before I joined GW. Too many lonnnnnnnnnnnng sessions about nothing that ever went anywhere. I honestly believed a particular psychologist would have had me put into a straight jacket ~ if she was ever given the opportunity. When I challenged that *expert* psychologist person to understand about behavior patterns, I got whirled around with social and cultural excuses brought into the mix. The only result that did was make our conversations even longer. Still got nowhere in the ultimate end.


              The basics with psychology's problem is that most things (in an adult life, for example) has to do with one's own heart. (Generic) *You* choose most of the decisions *you* make within your own environment. Ego and identity issues shape your own personality. However, it is how the decisions you make -- affect other people -- is at the core of any problematic matter (such as your treatment of other people around you). That is regardless of what your social, cultural or spiritual religious background has shaped you into being. The end result is still something (generic) *YOU* chose to do -- be it helpful or hindering to other people around you.

              That's my take, and (generic) *you* are stuck with it, and this is regardless of what kind of or how much counseling advice I have had over these many 50 plus years of my life..

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                Originally posted by SGalisa View Post
                If my condition was pre-existing, I would have been in trouble health-wise ages ago. I think pre-existing depends on the definition of the individual. Most insurance companies have always paid for my medical conditions, pre-existing or new. How else does one transfer to a new job with a different insurance company and get their allergy treatments paid for on a continuing basis? Grant it, I may have had a new set of allergy tests to go thru, but the medicine ended up being over the counter (many, many years later), so there wasn't much of an issue there.

                Heart conditions can be family inherited related. So, all of the doctors I've ever gone to, have always inquired and monitored this thruout most of my entire medical history. I've never kept it a secret either, IMO.
                As I understand it, most insurance companies will include coverage with another carrier as qualifying to continue that coverage for that condition if you switch to them.
                Where they like to exclude folks if you're coming in uncovered, no coverage at all, say an unemployed person. And also, if you are hired by a company that offers insurance, you are included in the overall group that company's people are in, regardless of what you yourself might have. In some cases, though, if a person is known to have an expensive condition, the insurance carrier might balk at hiring you in the first place.

                This is the danger in the current bill presented by the Republicans. It allows a way out; a means where insurance carriers can deny or raise the costs on policies for people with pre-existing conditions. You can bet your bottom dollar that if this sticks, it won't be long before they rule someone with genetic markers for cancer, for example has cancer as a pre-existing condition.

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                  Psychology of a different level..
                  Here's a really wild idea---- Just a silly thought.. what if the *voices* in our mind that many of us think we hear offering suggestions or decisions to help us decide in making our final choice, are those symbiotic bacteria and parasites that reside within our body for other purposes.. Science claims such critters don't have a brain, but what if they do? or if as a combined species into one unity are able to voice opinions on a dimensional scale that us humans do not understand?


                  I know that's a wild and far-fetched idea, but *what if* it turns out to be true?


                  Originally posted by Annoyed View Post
                  This is the danger in the current bill presented by the Republicans. It allows a way out; a means where insurance carriers can deny or raise the costs on policies for people with pre-existing conditions. You can bet your bottom dollar that if this sticks, it won't be long before they rule someone with genetic markers for cancer, for example has cancer as a pre-existing condition.
                  If I'm understanding this revamped medical health bill, as it's being debated --- the Problem with that sort of pre-existing condition factor could lead to no one (or not very many folks at all) ever getting medical insurance or assistance. Total folly of an idea, IMO. If TPTB are determining which health conditions are pre-existing (which is nearly everything, since life progresses with medical issues thru all phases of growing older), then what items are NOT considered pre-existing? We list on our medical history about other family members having _____health ailment, which we personally may or may not also develop.

                  I noticed the health forms had gotten more detailed during the last six months, and that was before Trump officially took over as President from Obama's reign. I think the new medical forms were already printed under Obama to potentially micro-manage our life to the enth scale, but that's just me thinking out loud.. Purpose of the micro-managing would be the bigger question on where the end results would take us as individuals.

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                    Originally posted by Gatefan1976 View Post
                    nono, not the voters, the -positions- of power your "congress" or "house" or "senate" (I am not up to date with your countries political system) I -think- you have a multi-layered "house" with several parties that need to form coalitions.
                    Ah... I see.

                    And yup, multiple parties and coalitions to rule -- that's us. Current majority is center-right + center-left on Flemish level; left + center-left (I think) on French level; and center-right + center-left + left on federal level. I don't know what about the Germans in the east.

                    Originally posted by SGalisa View Post
                    I think pre-existing depends on the definition of the individual.
                    Not according to the US Department of Health and Human Services:
                    "It's a "health problem you had before the date that new health coverage starts,"."

                    So, how many do you check off?



                    Some insurance companies already consider pregnancy, rape, caesareans, domestic violence, ... pre-existing conditions.

                    Originally posted by SGalisa View Post
                    Heart conditions can be family inherited related. So, all of the doctors I've ever gone to, have always inquired and monitored this thruout most of my entire medical history. I've never kept it a secret either, IMO.
                    It's not about keeping it a secret, because what good would that do you. It's that these conditions, one really can't help having (especially when passed on through genes), are no reason to raise premiums or to not be covered at all. That's simply and utterly ridiculous.

                    Originally posted by SGalisa View Post
                    I'm *NOT* ashamed of my health.
                    Not your health. Seeing a psychologist.

                    Originally posted by SGalisa View Post
                    I honestly believed a particular psychologist would have had me put into a straight jacket ~ if she was ever given the opportunity.
                    Hate to break it to you, but a psychologist does not have that authority. Only a psychiatrist can order such an action. Same as a psychologist can't prescribe medication. If they think it would be helpful to keep a condition like OCD under control, they need to consult with a medical doctor.

                    Originally posted by SGalisa View Post
                    The basics with psychology's problem is that most things (in an adult life, for example) has to do with one's own heart.
                    If only that were true...

                    My heart has little to do with my dopamine levels being out of whack, just saying.

                    Originally posted by SGalisa View Post
                    Here's a really wild idea---- Just a silly thought.. what if the *voices* in our mind that many of us think we hear offering suggestions or decisions to help us decide in making our final choice...
                    I don't know what the voices tell you, but mine was constantly in chatter/thinking mode. All the great questions in the universe were asked, and the answers were little. New ideas, old ideas, creative ideas, life, the universe and everything -- 42 -- constantly going round and round my brain. I couldn't hold one thought long enough to explore it fully, before it was replaced with the next. Utter chaos, all the time.

                    My brain was never quiet -- never a moment of silence. Ever.

                    Ever since I'm on medication to balance my dopamine levels, it's occasionally eerily quiet. Too quiet, sometimes. I do miss the chaos. But in the grand scheme of things, I'm a lot happier and a lot more focused on the here and now. At the very least, I hear my inner-voice again. I can hold a thought long enough to explore its possibilities -- and file it away when I'm done.

                    If only I could put into words, how awesome that feels.

                    I don't miss the highs and lows, the depression, the sadness, the worry, the anxiety (which is still around mind you), the panic attacks, ...

                    Anyway, where was I... Oh yeah, I'm an autist with ADD.

                    Originally posted by SGalisa View Post
                    If I'm understanding this revamped medical health bill, as it's being debated --- the Problem with that sort of pre-existing condition factor could lead to no one (or not very many folks at all) ever getting medical insurance or assistance.
                    The idea, as I understand it, is for the top 1% to get a serious tax deduction, for the insurance companies to make lots of money, and for a lot of Americans to be unable to afford it.

                    Sucks monkeyballs, if you ask me.
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                      Makes me glad I have my company's health insurance. We all pay the same amount
                      Originally posted by aretood2
                      Jelgate is right

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                        Originally posted by jelgate View Post
                        Makes me glad I have my company's health insurance. We all pay the same amount
                        Same here.

                        Although, you know, we don't have bills that run up in the thousands of dollars for having a correction of the breastbone (for example).
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                          Originally posted by jelgate View Post
                          Makes me glad I have my company's health insurance. We all pay the same amount

                          Until you get the Cadillac tax and the not rich enough tax.
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                            Originally posted by aretood2 View Post

                            Until you get the Cadillac tax and the not rich enough tax.
                            After which, no more health insurance?
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                              Yep, you'd get priced out of it.
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                                Originally posted by aretood2 View Post

                                Until you get the Cadillac tax and the not rich enough tax.
                                Maybe, maybe not. Aside from union jobs, very few workers have health plans generous enough to trigger the Cadillac tax.
                                And I believe union employees are exempt from that aspect of LSoScare.

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