The Political Discussion Thread

[AleksisMi]

a book of rambling disjointed spread sheets according to one of hte lower reviews :/

https://www.amazon.com/Survival-Rich.../dp/1510720650

[Chaka-Z0]

It's going to be really hilarious watching them if the Republicans keep the Congress this fall and another liberal judge leaves the bench.

I see you're delighted at the prospect of having a biased justice system, sad.

[SoulReaver]

It's going to be really hilarious watching them if the Republicans keep the Congress this fall and another liberal judge leaves the bench.

this will mean elections were rigged by government
in which case a civil war's the best thing that can happen

[Gatefan1976]

What am I blaming Obama for this time?

If your premise of those in the senate and the house have power, Obama had to deal with a hostile republican party holding both.
He was "powerless"
Yet you blame him for a great deal
So why blame him?

If you want to place blame, it lies with the Democrats, who invoked the "nuclear option" back in 2013 in order to get Obama's left wing judicial appointees confirmed.

Judicial, yes, SCOTUS, No. In fact they made sure that was not the case as it was the only exception.
I'm not blaming the right for starting the fire, what I am saying is both parties have been guilty of throwing gas on it.

But it's ok for a leftie to stack the deck with left wing justices, isn't it?

Nope, I have lost count of how many times I have told you the judiciary should be non partisan.

I understand why the liberal/left is so desperate.

The liberal agenda is not popular in many parts of the US. Therefore, they can't advance it legislatively, through the Congress as would be proper procedure. So, over a period of decades, they've established a process/pattern of getting the judiciary to create law out of thin air that is neither in the Constitution nor has been passed by Congress.

PARTS of the US, for sure.
The people??

That is the only path they have to advance many of their ideas, and they are going to lose it. So I understand why they are as crazy as a stepped-on cockroach at the prospect of a 5-4 originalist SCOTUS. Too freaking bad. It's long past time that that end run around the proper process for enacting laws was closed.

Originalist?
You should look into the voting records of these two, they are not originalists.

It's going to be really hilarious watching them if the Republicans keep the Congress this fall and another liberal judge leaves the bench.

And should the left derive any pleasure from watching you if the republicans loose it all?
Politics has become reality TV, is that what an originalist would want?

[Chaka-Z0]

And should the left derive any pleasure from watching you if the republicans loose it all?
Politics has become reality TV, is that what an originalist would want?

The farce that is US politics is mainly due, in my opinion, in having a bi-party system. I mean there's no real, actual choice. That was proven last time: vote for a snake or hop on the Trump train headed for a wall at 200 mph.

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[Annoyed]

Judicial, yes, SCOTUS, No. In fact they made sure that was not the case as it was the only exception.
I'm not blaming the right for starting the fire, what I am saying is both parties have been guilty of throwing gas on it.

Nope, I have lost count of how many times I have told you the judiciary should be non partisan.

Why should it be ok to have a partisan judiciary, but not a partisan SCOTUS? They both perform the same function.

And should the left derive any pleasure from watching you if the republicans loose it all?
Politics has become reality TV, is that what an originalist would want?

And who basically said "stuff it" to his opposition with "elections have consequences" ?

https://dailycaller.com/2017/02/08/f...-consequences/

Democrat Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s frustration over the Republican Party’s behavior since the election brings to mind a famous quote from President Obama following his 2008 win: “Elections have consequences.”

He made the remark in a closed-door meeting at the White House in 2009, where Republicans had hoped to negotiate with him regarding the specifics of his stimulus package in response to the financial crisis. Initially, the president showed interest in what Republicans had to say, but his tone changed when it got down to the nitty gritty.

“Elections have consequences,” he told then number two Republican Rep. Eric Cantor. “And at the end of the day, I won. So I think on that one I trump you.”

[mad_gater]

I see you're delighted at the prospect of having a biased justice system, sad.

as if it wasn't heavily biased when the lefties had control of it

[Chaka-Z0]

as if it wasn't heavily biased when the lefties had control of it

Could be, I have no clue. I am not resident of the US nor do I support any of these two parties. The same apply if the hat fits the Dems.

[Annoyed]

as if it wasn't heavily biased when the lefties had control of it

As I said, it's ok if it's biased to the left.

[Ian-S]

My Homework assignments are either 5-10 minutes amount of work for practice, or prep work for something done in class or study guides since the class time would be spent going over said study guides. It really depends on the subject really. Homework has to serve a specific purpose and the time devoted to it has to be appropriate for said purpose.

I wish you were my sons teacher lol, tonight's homework for graphics design consisted of researching a gofundme type project online and writing an essay about the research, it took him an hour and a half.

I'm still trying to work out how this related to graphics design.

Around here, the opposite is true. I've had and met students who swapped from private to public schools and one of the major differences they've noticed is that public schools have significantly less homework. I do wonder if your school system has a policy limiting homework, many schools here do. For Example, some limit homework to 45 minutes. But in all honesty, if it is going to take the average kid 45 minutes to do an overnight homework assignment on a regular basis...something is wrong. Of course, College level classes are excluded from this rule?
What do you envision a year round school year being like?

I ask because places that have "year round" school years have multiple breaks and a slightly larger break between school years. Though Japan has a two month break in the middle of a school year. The reason for this is that research does show that student outcomes begin stagnating after a certain amount of days of school (Assuming an average of around 5 instructional hours per day, give or take). Beyond that, we are just paying money for a very expensive and elaborate day care center.

Our kids get six weeks summer break, a week at the end of each half term, and two weeks at the end of each term. I guess you could say that if they were taught during the summer, it probably would achieve much, but I'm not sure.

What would you prefer, teaching year round without homework, or teaching for 155 ish days with the need to set homework each lesson?

I think the reason why homework is such a big policy here, is its done to keep the kids off the street. When I complained at the amount of homework he was getting in infant school, I was told it was to teach them discipline, I said it was more like it is to teach them to do as they are told and I was banned from the premises for "insubordination".

Your mileage may vary on this one, but it is in part true. The sad thing is that only a small percentage of kidnappings and pediphilia cases are committed by strangers. Most of the time, it's someone the kid and/or family knows.

Yeah, try telling that to Jane Chav in the UK, most people here think every drone can see through walls, has UHD quality zoom video and can carry enough explosives to blow them to kingdom come, all while flying for four hours to its target and weighing 35grams.

As a drone flyer this is relevant to me but also provides an interesting viewpoint, if I fly my drone people shy away, don't come near and treat me with suspicion, if I fly one of the planes, I usually end up with an audience and lots of people showing interest and asking questions, the usual one being, got any more batteries?

I know that's a bit OT but it's another example of the truth being far detached from popular opinion.

There are Pros for year round school. But I am more interested in knowing why you think it should be year round. So why?

Well, it would be like it is for the rest of society, train drivers don't get six weeks off in the summer, nor do nurses, so it might give the kids a realistic expectation of how life works, my niece left school last year and she struggled quiet a bit adjusting to real life because it's so different to school life. But I wouldn't want it to be just a year round version of what we have now, it needs to be revamped for both the kids and teachers.

[Ian-S]

The farce that is US politics is mainly due, in my opinion, in having a bi-party system. I mean there's no real, actual choice. That was proven last time: vote for a snake or hop on the Trump train headed for a wall at 200 mph.

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Take it from the UK, a three party system doesn't work either, all it does is dilute the votes and reduces the majority of the winner by a small amount and sometimes results in a system where nobody has overall control of they have to pay off, sorry work together, with other smaller parties to form a majority.

Overall, having 3, 5 or 18 options on the ballot paper, makes little difference to the end result compare to having just 2.

[jelgate]

As I said, it's ok if it's biased to the left.

You are making things up again

[Chaka-Z0]

Take it from the UK, a three party system doesn't work either, all it does is dilute the votes and reduces the majority of the winner by a small amount and sometimes results in a system where nobody has overall control of they have to pay off, sorry work together, with other smaller parties to form a majority.

Overall, having 3, 5 or 18 options on the ballot paper, makes little difference to the end result compare to having just 2.

Well I'm from Canada and we have more or less the same Parliamentarian system. I would argue that the NDP (New Democratic Party, which is not your mainstream party like Conservative and Liberals) succeeded in electing a lot of deputies two or three election ago, due to Jack Layton being such a charismatic leader. The Bloc Québécois, which is a separatist party and only have candidates in QC elected 52 deputies during Harper's reign. Granted it was a one-time deal event but still gives the opportunity for the people when they are sick of their Gov's sh*t to pick something else.

Given time other parties can rise, but that takes many years. I understand that the US system is much different, and may not leave any room for new parties.

[Gatefan1976]

Why should it be ok to have a partisan judiciary, but not a partisan SCOTUS? They both perform the same function.

No, they don't.

And who basically said "stuff it" to his opposition with "elections have consequences" ?

https://dailycaller.com/2017/02/08/f...-consequences/

What else was happening?

[Annoyed]

I wish you were my sons teacher lol, tonight's homework for graphics design consisted of researching a gofundme type project online and writing an essay about the research, it took him an hour and a half.

I'm still trying to work out how this related to graphics design.

What, you never heard of the "starving artist" ?

I think the reason why homework is such a big policy here, is its done to keep the kids off the street. When I complained at the amount of homework he was getting in infant school, I was told it was to teach them discipline, I said it was more like it is to teach them to do as they are told and I was banned from the premises for "insubordination".

I hope you had the good sense to straighten them out on that. The parents are not subordinate to the teachers, rather it is the other way around. The schools and teachers are subordinate to the parents.