The Political Discussion Thread

[jelgate]

In an effort to blast the NFL, we can add TV ratings to the long list of things Trump doesn't understand

[Chaka-Z0]

In an effort to blast the NFL, we can add TV ratings to the long list of things Trump doesn't understand

Trump doesn't even understand what he doesn't understand.

[SoulReaver]

Trump doesn't even understand what he doesn't understand.

understanding is not understanding

[Gatefan1976]

As opposed to letting the government run it, like the VA?

There is a very basic core problem here. Health Care, Doctors and all that goes with it is very expensive. Yes, there are many places where overcharging is rampant, but the effort and schooling required to be a doctor is intensive and very expensive, same with the most other things involved in providing the service. That expense prices the service out of reach of most working stiffs on their own.
Yes, there are places to cut costs; a box of Kleenex shouldn't cost 40 bucks or whatever, that kind of thing. Drug research is expensive also, but why do new drugs that cost 50/dose here cost pennies in other countries? The US population alone should not bear the cost of research.

But the basic problem remains; medical care is very expensive.

No, the basic premise is the VA is NOT run by the government, it's run by the medical companies because unlike any other first world country, the government does not have the "buying power" of it's entire constituency behind it. All the government does with the VA is -fund- it, and that funding is up to the politicians, it has no control over prices. Please, read what Tood said here.
This is the same situation as the defence industry.
The government picks up the bill, but it is the companies that dictate price.

[Coco Pops]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/09/o...a-mueller.html


The main question that comes up is Trump's unwavering adulation and deference to Vladimir Putin. The article talks about Trump's Russian mob connections and how Trump specifically attacks certain people who have a history of identifying and prosecuting against Russian organized crime.

So why is this, and why does he love Russia so much?

[Gatefan1976]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/09/o...a-mueller.html


The main question that comes up is Trump's unwavering adulation and deference to Vladimir Putin. The article talks about Trump's Russian mob connections and how Trump specifically attacks certain people who have a history of identifying and prosecuting against Russian organized crime.

So why is this, and why does he love Russia so much?

Cause no organization in such a capitalist driven society like the US would lend a 6 times bankruptcy "businessman" a freaking dime?
Criminals, be they US or USSR however would.

[Annoyed]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/09/o...a-mueller.html


The main question that comes up is Trump's unwavering adulation and deference to Vladimir Putin. The article talks about Trump's Russian mob connections and how Trump specifically attacks certain people who have a history of identifying and prosecuting against Russian organized crime.

So why is this, and why does he love Russia so much?

There is a reasonable suspicion here based on circumstantial evidence; what if anything does Putin have on Trump? But 2+ years of investigations have found nothing, and Mueller hasn't been leaving stones unturned.

So while there is cause for suspicion, the article shows the author's real intent towards the end.

Which means that the November elections may determine whether we ever get answers. If Democrats win House control, Schiff will gain subpoena power. If Republicans keep control, just imagine how emboldened Trump will feel. He could mount a full-on assault on the rule of law by shutting down Mueller’s investigation and any other official scrutiny of the Trump Organization.

Just another anti-trump piece.

[jelgate]

There is a reasonable suspicion here based on circumstantial evidence; what if anything does Putin have on Trump? But 2+ years of investigations have found nothing, and Mueller hasn't been leaving stones unturned.

So while there is cause for suspicion, the article shows the author's real intent towards the end.



Just another anti-trump piece.

I sure do love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning

[Gatefan1976]

It's not hypocrisy, it's rank ignorance.

[Gatefan1976]

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...cks-nyc-214236

[jelgate]

It's not hypocrisy, it's rank ignorance.

Can't it be both?

[Gatefan1976]

GOLD!!
https://www.salon.com/2018/09/09/mer...ett-kavanaugh/

[Annoyed]

GOLD!!
https://www.salon.com/2018/09/09/mer...ett-kavanaugh/

While certainly amusing, there I see nothing approaching proof. Only the ravings of desperate democrats who know they are utterly powerless to stop Kavanaugh's confirmation.

Oh, and need I remind you, that no matter what fantasies they manage to come up with, the Democrats are indeed utterly powerless to stop Kavanaugh's confirmation?

[Gatefan1976]

While certainly amusing, there I see nothing approaching proof. Only the ravings of desperate democrats who know they are utterly powerless to stop Kavanaugh's confirmation.

You don't know investigations work, do you?

Oh, and need I remind you, that no matter what fantasies they manage to come up with, the Democrats are indeed utterly powerless to stop Kavanaugh's confirmation?

Interesting.
Why do you keep blaming Obama then?

[Annoyed]

You don't know investigations work, do you?


Interesting.
Why do you keep blaming Obama then?

What am I blaming Obama for this time?

If you want to place blame, it lies with the Democrats, who invoked the "nuclear option" back in 2013 in order to get Obama's left wing judicial appointees confirmed.

But it's ok for a leftie to stack the deck with left wing justices, isn't it?

I understand why the liberal/left is so desperate.

The liberal agenda is not popular in many parts of the US. Therefore, they can't advance it legislatively, through the Congress as would be proper procedure. So, over a period of decades, they've established a process/pattern of getting the judiciary to create law out of thin air that is neither in the Constitution nor has been passed by Congress.

That is the only path they have to advance many of their ideas, and they are going to lose it. So I understand why they are as crazy as a stepped-on cockroach at the prospect of a 5-4 originalist SCOTUS. Too freaking bad. It's long past time that that end run around the proper process for enacting laws was closed.

It's going to be really hilarious watching them if the Republicans keep the Congress this fall and another liberal judge leaves the bench.