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    #16
    http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/t.../erinyes.shtml

    With all 8 guns firing simultaneously, it's capable of taking down a Shivan Cain-class cruiser in under a minute (heck, possibly even a half minute) alone. As a comparison, during the First Great War, it took several minutes of combined firepower from several fighters and multiple missile volleys (unless you used Tsunami bombs) in order to bring down a Cain-class.

    Of course, there's also the Devastator-class bomber from Wing Commander V which is even deadlier in terms of sheer firepower, but is a whole lot less manouverable and extremely susceptible to extremely fast-moving fighters. The new alien enemies in that instalment were shown to have near-impenetrable hulls on all their vessels to current Confederation technology (which by the 3rd instalment was quite easily capable of overcoming almost anything the Kilrathi, the original antagonists, had) and so rapid advancements were made in terms of offensive and defensive technologies.

    The Devastator bomber was absolutely ridiculous as it fired a massive, slow-moving ball of energy if you activated and fired all its guns simultaneously (as compared to other fighters, which would just fire all its different beam weapons separately). Nine shots was all it took to down any alien capital ship, including the massive 20+ kilometer long Dreadnought as compared to nearly a couple of dozen torpedos (and most regular energy weapons equipped on lower-end fighters dealt practically zilch damage to cap ship's hulls). Needless to say, any fighter which was the unfortunate recipient of such a shot was instantly KOed.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Lord of Nightmares View Post
      http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/t.../erinyes.shtml

      With all 8 guns firing simultaneously, it's capable of taking down a Shivan Cain-class cruiser in under a minute (heck, possibly even a half minute) alone. As a comparison, during the First Great War, it took several minutes of combined firepower from several fighters and multiple missile volleys (unless you used Tsunami bombs) in order to bring down a Cain-class.

      Of course, there's also the Devastator-class bomber from Wing Commander V which is even deadlier in terms of sheer firepower, but is a whole lot less manouverable and extremely susceptible to extremely fast-moving fighters. The new alien enemies in that instalment were shown to have near-impenetrable hulls on all their vessels to current Confederation technology (which by the 3rd instalment was quite easily capable of overcoming almost anything the Kilrathi, the original antagonists, had) and so rapid advancements were made in terms of offensive and defensive technologies.

      The Devastator bomber was absolutely ridiculous as it fired a massive, slow-moving ball of energy if you activated and fired all its guns simultaneously (as compared to other fighters, which would just fire all its different beam weapons separately). Nine shots was all it took to down any alien capital ship, including the massive 20+ kilometer long Dreadnought as compared to nearly a couple of dozen torpedos (and most regular energy weapons equipped on lower-end fighters dealt practically zilch damage to cap ship's hulls). Needless to say, any fighter which was the unfortunate recipient of such a shot was instantly KOed.
      Very Nice choice but I'm still going with the X-Wing because it took out the Death Star which is bigger then any other ship. Also the X-Wing has a hyperdrive making it even more deadlier as it come pop out and shoot then leave in hyperspace again
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        #18
        my top three favs

        #1 Puddlejumper(Atlantis)
        #2 A-Wing(Star Wars)
        #3 Wraith Dart(Atlantis)

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          #19
          Originally posted by fugiman View Post
          Very Nice choice but I'm still going with the X-Wing because it took out the Death Star which is bigger then any other ship. Also the X-Wing has a hyperdrive making it even more deadlier as it come pop out and shoot then leave in hyperspace again
          Actually, both the Erinyes and the Devastator have hyperdrives as well, as both the Freespace and Wing Commander franchises span an entire galaxy.

          As for the X-Wing, the only reason it was able to destroy the first Death Star was due to the Rebels exploiting a design flaw in the battle station and a couple of extremely well-aimed proton torpedoes using the Force. This flaw was corrected when the second Death Star was constructed, and the Rebels were forced to directly assault the core from within to take it out.

          In comparison, the Erinyes and Devastator don't even need to exploit specific weak spots on capital ships, at full strength their weapons tear right through the hulls of even the largest kilometers-long vessels within a matter of minutes.

          And if I were to only choose Star Wars fighters, I'd pick either the TIE Defender or the Missile Boat over the X-Wing anyday, both former fighter-types which are capable of wiping out entire squadrons of X-Wings and even Mon Calamari Cruisers and Star Destroyers in fair fights with relative ease.

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            #20
            Vic Viper

            http://gradius.classicgaming.gamespy...t/VicViper.JPG

            It can single-handedly take out an entire armada.

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              #21
              Originally posted by fugiman View Post
              Can we get more of a debate here as why its the best fighter and not just the name of fighters that is your favorite
              All right
              Puddle jumper

              1. Endurance
              This fighter can take a lot of damage from staff weapons and many fighters such as a death glider

              2. Cloak
              It makes it easy for recon missions and to be able to sneak up on the enemy

              3. Weapons
              The Jumpers weapons allow it to cause some serious damage an example would be when Jack caused a chain reaction on the Hatak

              4. Easy gate travel
              The shows are called stargate for something, to be able to fly onto a planet threw a wormhole is an advantage over Gliders and many fighters like it.

              5. Scanners
              To be able to pick up things on the surface is useful as well as life signs

              6. Thought Control
              Allows for less use of the hands, easy access to the ships capabilities, and a more efficient way of using ship without having the trouble of tons of switches and buttons

              Added technology

              7. Shield
              It takes a lot of power but a fighter that can have a shield is useful for many things

              8. Time Travel
              One of the few things that uses time travel is a Puddle jumper

              I let someone else say reason of slip fighter
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                #22
                Originally posted by Kingomon View Post
                All right
                Puddle jumper

                1. Endurance
                This fighter can take a lot of damage from staff weapons and many fighters such as a death glider

                2. Cloak
                It makes it easy for recon missions and to be able to sneak up on the enemy

                3. Weapons
                The Jumpers weapons allow it to cause some serious damage an example would be when Jack caused a chain reaction on the Hatak

                4. Easy gate travel
                The shows are called stargate for something, to be able to fly onto a planet threw a wormhole is an advantage over Gliders and many fighters like it.

                5. Scanners
                To be able to pick up things on the surface is useful as well as life signs

                6. Thought Control
                Allows for less use of the hands, easy access to the ships capabilities, and a more efficient way of using ship without having the trouble of tons of switches and buttons

                Added technology

                7. Shield
                It takes a lot of power but a fighter that can have a shield is useful for many things

                8. Time Travel
                One of the few things that uses time travel is a Puddle jumper

                I let someone else say reason of slip fighter
                We've nerver seen the Puddle Jumper take fire from a Death Glider.
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Kingomon View Post
                  All right
                  Puddle jumper

                  1. Endurance
                  This fighter can take a lot of damage from staff weapons and many fighters such as a death glider

                  2. Cloak
                  It makes it easy for recon missions and to be able to sneak up on the enemy

                  3. Weapons
                  The Jumpers weapons allow it to cause some serious damage an example would be when Jack caused a chain reaction on the Hatak

                  4. Easy gate travel
                  The shows are called stargate for something, to be able to fly onto a planet threw a wormhole is an advantage over Gliders and many fighters like it.

                  5. Scanners
                  To be able to pick up things on the surface is useful as well as life signs

                  6. Thought Control
                  Allows for less use of the hands, easy access to the ships capabilities, and a more efficient way of using ship without having the trouble of tons of switches and buttons

                  Added technology

                  7. Shield
                  It takes a lot of power but a fighter that can have a shield is useful for many things

                  8. Time Travel
                  One of the few things that uses time travel is a Puddle jumper


                  I let someone else say reason of slip fighter
                  Only one PJ has ever had Time travel that we have seen so please don't use that jummper but just the regular ones
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by fugiman View Post

                    Only one PJ has ever had Time travel that we have seen so please don't use that jummper but just the regular ones
                    There were two jumpers with a time machine, one in altanits and one in sg-1.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Amb. Shepphard(ARC) View Post
                      There were two jumpers with a time machine, one in altanits and one in sg-1.
                      Ah but the one in Atlantis never really exsited think about it the timeline was changed so it was never really made
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                        #26
                        We've seen Jumpers take hits from Darts, Gliders, Staff weapons and a drone at least.

                        Spoiler:

                        Carter?

                        Sir, this is the 5th incoming wormhole in the last hour & a half

                        Ok, I'm here 2 hours early, when did you get here?

                        I... haven't left yet

                        Carter, didn't I ORDER you to get a life?

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by .jolinar. View Post
                          We've seen Jumpers take hits from Darts, Gliders, Staff weapons and a drone at least.
                          When was it hit with the drone? What episode?
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by fugiman View Post
                            When was it hit with the drone? What episode?
                            The Return Part 2, but the jumper had a shield so that does not count.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by hyzmarca View Post
                              Vic Viper

                              http://gradius.classicgaming.gamespy...t/VicViper.JPG

                              It can single-handedly take out an entire armada.
                              You mean the one-hit wonder which gets KOed even by rocks that're spat out from an active volcano?

                              Technically, any playable ship from any scrolling shooter counts as well if that's the case.

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                                #30
                                I know it had a shield and I expect it would have otherwise been destroyed by a single drone (Altho the PJ armour is pretty dam thick) but after it bounsed off the PJ shield Teyla reported that the shield was damaged.

                                Spoiler:

                                Carter?

                                Sir, this is the 5th incoming wormhole in the last hour & a half

                                Ok, I'm here 2 hours early, when did you get here?

                                I... haven't left yet

                                Carter, didn't I ORDER you to get a life?

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