Misc tech questions

[Hudson]

So do the Asgard and the Nox. Obviously the Kawoosh isn't technically required for the wormhole to form and is probally some sort of safeguard the ancients added in to prevent to keep matter from going through the at the wrong time.

bit of a nasty safegaurd tho...

[Col. Newman]

What exactly happens when you hear a "thud" of someone/something splashing against the iris? Where does the matter that hits the iris go? Considering the concept of gate tunnels only going one way, it can't go back. And it doesn't go through the iris either. So where DOES it go?

That's easy to answer if it is still in the worm hole when the gate shuts down then it just cease to exist, at least in our dimension

[Gladius77]

It can't still be in the wormhole if it makes a thud on the iris, considering the iris is set outside the wormhole.

[Col. Newman]

It can't still be in the wormhole if it makes a thud on the iris, considering the iris is set outside the wormhole.

well like 99.99999999% of it is

[6thMonolith]

Do you mean that it bounces back into the event horizon? That would make sense.

[Col. Newman]

Do you mean that it bounces back into the event horizon? That would make sense.

no, most of it can't come out of the event horizon because there is only 3 micro meters of space between the iris and the event Horizon

[6thMonolith]

Yes, but the thud might come from the few molecular particals that form, and would bounce right back into the event horizon. Things still 'impact' the iris.
http://www.gateworld.net/omnipedia/t...y/i/iris.shtml

[Col. Newman]

Yes, but the thud might come from the few molecular particals that form, and would bounce right back into the event horizon. Things still 'impact' the iris.
http://www.gateworld.net/omnipedia/t...y/i/iris.shtml

Yes i know things still impact the iris and you are right, i thought you meant the whole object comes out and bounces back, sorry my bad

[6thMonolith]

Who's to say that they dont? The whole object probably rematerializes in molecular layers, that bounce back, until the entire object is gone.

[Gladius77]

You wouldn't hear a thud if only a minute amount of matter actually hit the iris. The only logic here might be that whatever forms before the iris would have to fill out in the micrometers of space between the iris and the event horizon, but this would mean that since there wouldn't be nearly enough space for the matter that went in to materialize on the other end, that the iris would have to burst to let it through. That's the only logical explanation that I can see. But this brings us back to the whole concept of the iris being impossible.

[Col. Newman]

You don't know how the ancients design the star gate and what features they put in it maybe that the gate doesn’t kept reintegrating matter if there is an iris on it; also the Atlantis gate has a shield, and the iris would not burst it might expand a little but not burst

[Gladius77]

The iris isn't part of any design for the gate, so it'd be a far stretch to assume that SGC found an "undocumented feature" which would just happen to work (though logically it shouldn't). And unless the metal used to make the iris had the properties which would allow it to bend (just the opposite is indicated), the fixtures that hold it in place would logically give way before the iris itself expanded. The end result would be the same anyway; the iris wouldn't hold. The whole iris as it is presented is impossible anyway; it expands from literally nothing to cover the whole circle. But this is another issue altogether, heh.

[6thMonolith]

The matter wouldn't fill up the space between the iris and the event horizon, it would just bounce off the iris. The matter is moving foreward; it wouldn't just stop. As for the iris coming out of nowhere, it has a space between the outer and inner ring, and is made of interlapping parts. But it is a TV show.

PS welcome to the forum, gladius77!

[Gladius77]

Bounce off the iris and end up... where? That's the issue here.

And thanks for the welcome.

[Col. Newman]

Bounce off the iris and end up... where? That's the issue here.

And thanks for the welcome.

It would go back through the event horizon and then cease to exists