Ratings slip in wake of '200' promotion

[ShadowMaat]

The numbers were low BEFORE 200 and they're dropping back down after. Why does this surprise everyone?

[Cameron Mitchel]

Yes, but the ratings have been adjusted to compensate for the loss of viewers.

I cant believe you cuz it doesnt make since. Ratings has nothing to do with people dissatisfied with the show.

[Cameron Mitchel]

The numbers were low BEFORE 200 and they're dropping back down after. Why does this surprise everyone?

Because Counterstrike was a good episode for one, and number two, regardless, I'm still questioning SciFi's reason for canceling the show, because they never stated that they cancelled it because of ratings. They mentioned that the ratings were low, but never said it was the reason they cancelled the show. They said they felt like it was time to cancel it.

[Ltcolshepjumper]

Because Counterstrike was a good episode for one, and number two, regardless, I'm still questioning SciFi's reason for canceling the show, because they never stated that they cancelled it because of ratings. They mentioned that the ratings were low, but never said it was the reason they cancelled the show. They said they felt like it was time to cancel it.

And saying that you felt like it was time is a pathetic excuse for a reason.

[smurf]

I cant believe you cuz it doesnt make since. Ratings has nothing to do with people dissatisfied with the show.

Eh? How can ratings have nothing to do with people dissatisfied with the show?
People are unhappy with the show, they stop watching, ratings go down.
Seems fairly simple to me. *shrug*


And in regards to the Neilsen adjustments. Simplified; The ratings are a percentage of the available audience for that channel. If Sci Fi has an available audience of 300 and 4 people watch then it gets a rating of 1.5(%). If the number of people who can get the channel goes down to 200, but 3 people watch it still gets a rating of 1.5(%).

[Cameron Mitchel]

Eh? How can ratings have nothing to do with people dissatisfied with the show?
People are unhappy with the show, they stop watching, ratings go down.
Seems fairly simple to me. *shrug*


And in regards to the Neilsen adjustments. Simplified; The ratings are a percentage of the available audience for that channel. If Sci Fi has an available audience of 300 and 4 people watch then it gets a rating of 1.5(%). If the number of people who can get the channel goes down to 200, but 2 people watch it still gets a rating of 1.5(%).

Uh, not EVERYBODY has this Nielsen thing. So its not a fair rating system.

[prion]

Taken from http://gateworld.net/news/2006/08/ra...200_prom.shtml



Now I believe that SciFi is controlling the ratings. It's a big coincidence that after the 200th episode rating of 1.9, it just sinks back down to 1.5. The episode was really good, and I would expect that the ratings would at least stay around 1.7, 1.8ish, as people would at least check out the next episode from 200 (Counterstrike). But I do believe now that SciFi is controlling the ratings and is pushing them back down to back up their selfish plan to get rid of Stargate SG-1 to make room for Eureka and ECW and to get rid of the competition.

Please post your ideas.

No network can influence hte Nielsen ratings. They're indepedent. The ratings after "200" went down because the studios pushed and pushed advertising for ONE episode and well, folks who wanted to see a 'historic' episode did, then didn't bother watching more.

[ToasterOnFire]

No, but they can influence them.

And there is a motive. Stargate isn't owned by NBC. NBC wants its channels to air as much stuff from NBC as possible.

Yes, well until someone can provide proof of this it gets thrown into the "cancellation conspiracy" pile. Keeps growing every day.

They mentioned that the ratings were low, but never said it was the reason they cancelled the show. They said they felt like it was time to cancel it.

Maybe because they didn't want to wait around to see the ratings get even lower?

[ShadowMaat]

Because Counterstrike was a good episode for one, and number two, regardless, I'm still questioning SciFi's reason for canceling the show, because they never stated that they cancelled it because of ratings. They mentioned that the ratings were low, but never said it was the reason they cancelled the show. They said they felt like it was time to cancel it.

The episode was good in your opinion. That doesn't make it FACT, nor does everything that happens in the world have to make sense to YOU (or any other random individual in the world) in order to be true. There are a lot of senseless, terrible things that happen- people gunned down in the streets, children dying, diseases ravaging the populace... There are even random wonderful things that happen- falling in love, winning the lottery, meeting your long-lost twin... they may be utterly inexplicable, but they still happen.

You don't have to understand why SCIFI cancelled Stargate, but you should at least try to accept it. Not everything is a conspiracy. The ratings for the show are dropping again because not as many people are watching the show. It's that simple.

It's like Gray's Anatomy. They got HUGE ratings for their post-Super Bowl ep, but the ratings dropped after that back to more "normal" (for that point in the show/season) ratings. Same here. Ratings are dropping back to what's now normal.

[Cameron Mitchel]

And saying that you felt like it was time is a pathetic excuse for a reason.

At least someone agrees with me that it's not fair for Stargate.

[Ltcolshepjumper]

Which ain't right because I'm sure there are at least 3 times more people that do tune in to stargate and if what I know about it is true then it won't matter if we watch it or not.

[Sci-Fi]

That doesn't make sense. Why would the SFC even want to "control the numbers"? They probably have a minimum rating they guarenteed the advertisers. That would mean the SFC would lose money if they have to give away makeup spots on other shows because the weekly ratings missed the mark. If they try to inflate or deflate the numbers, everybody would know and they would get a black eye for doing so.

How would the SFC manipulate the numbers anyways? The Nielsen ratings is an independent service and they want to protect their integrity and report the data they collect.

Why would the SFC have to make room? Eureka and ECW are on a different night. It's not like one of those shows is replacing SG1 on SciFi Friday. Now that would be a different story. Doubt the SFC would move either show from Tuesday. They have been trying to create a new night of original programming for years. Besides WWE Friday Night SmackDown is on UPN Friday night at 8pm and WWE doesn't want any of their sister wrestling programs on the same night and/or airing at the same time.

[smurf]

Uh, not EVERYBODY has this Nielsen thing. So its not a fair rating system.

Is it only fair when it's in your favor?
You know, it's just as likely if the Neilsens counted everyone that the numbers could be lower.

[Cameron Mitchel]

The episode was good in your opinion. That doesn't make it FACT, nor does everything that happens in the world have to make sense to YOU (or any other random individual in the world) in order to be true. There are a lot of senseless, terrible things that happen- people gunned down in the streets, children dying, diseases ravaging the populace... There are even random wonderful things that happen- falling in love, winning the lottery, meeting your long-lost twin... they may be utterly inexplicable, but they still happen.

You don't have to understand why SCIFI cancelled Stargate, but you should at least try to accept it. Not everything is a conspiracy. The ratings for the show are dropping again because not as many people are watching the show. It's that simple.

It's like Gray's Anatomy. They got HUGE ratings for their post-Super Bowl ep, but the ratings dropped after that back to more "normal" (for that point in the show/season) ratings. Same here. Ratings are dropping back to what's now normal.

But YOU dont know why the ratings are dropping EITHER. just because YOU may not like the direction of the show, doesnt mean that the low ratings are because people dont like it. And I never said that everything in the world has to make sense to me, and dying children, etc, has nothing to do with this thread, so please stick to the topic.

[Ltcolshepjumper]

That doesn't make sense. Why would the SFC even want to "control the numbers"? They probably have a minimum rating they guarenteed the advertisers. That would mean the SFC would lose money if they have to give away makeup spots on other shows because the weekly ratings missed the mark. If they try to inflate or deflate the numbers, everybody would know and they would get a black eye for doing so.

How would the SFC manipulate the numbers anyways? The Nielsen ratings is an independent service and they want to protect their integrity and report the data they collect.

Why would the SFC have to make room? Eureka and ECW are on a different night. It's not like one of those shows is replacing SG1 on SciFi Friday. Now that would be a different story. Doubt the SFC would move either show from Tuesday. They have been trying to create a new night of original programming for years. Besides WWE Friday Night SmackDown is on UPN Friday night at 8pm and WWE doesn't want any of their sister wrestling programs on the same night and/or airing at the same time.

Eureka airs on Fridays at 7pm. Doctor Who will probably fill the SG-1 spot, that is if they air it when they air SGA.

The episode was good in your opinion. That doesn't make it FACT, nor does everything that happens in the world have to make sense to YOU (or any other random individual in the world) in order to be true. There are a lot of senseless, terrible things that happen- people gunned down in the streets, children dying, diseases ravaging the populace... There are even random wonderful things that happen- falling in love, winning the lottery, meeting your long-lost twin... they may be utterly inexplicable, but they still happen.

You don't have to understand why SCIFI cancelled Stargate, but you should at least try to accept it. Not everything is a conspiracy. The ratings for the show are dropping again because not as many people are watching the show. It's that simple.It's like Gray's Anatomy. They got HUGE ratings for their post-Super Bowl ep, but the ratings dropped after that back to more "normal" (for that point in the show/season) ratings. Same here. Ratings are dropping back to what's now normal.

Uh, first hint that there is something they aren't telling us is that they never said the cancellation was because of ratings. In fact, they didn't give a factual reason as to why they chose to cancel it. You NEVER do anything, especially when it comes to business issues, without a reason. That was Scifi's first mistake. Second, why cancel it before the 200th episode? Why not 1 or two weeks before? Why not after the 200th episode? Mistake # 3: why the lack of promotion?