'Visitation' (209) General Discussion

[jelgate]

Whats the point of any episode?

To tell a story of some kind. I think this one qualifies.

[Corona]

Just a few observations.
Tree lady was dead for months and was not on the shuttle.

I thought I saw tree chopper guy walk out of the shuttle after talking with Caine, ending his pain. Again, not on the shuttle.

I think since the colony was now dead, the aliens sent them home for last rites. Repairing the shuttle was necessary to survive the trip.

Caine will die watching the stars with TJ. Note how he was suffering hypothermia as they sat. He only had minutes left.

[StefanSGA]

Whats the point of any episode?

To tell a story of some kind. I think this one qualifies.

Hahaha what a bunch of smart*sses around here . I meant off course to ask: does this episode take a place in the main story-arc or was it more of a filler-and-tie-loose-ends episode?

[spaceship]

Well I paused it at least 3 times to do something else on my PC. Thats how bored I was. It sucked so bad. Dead people coming alive only to die again. More rotting corpses on Destiny, please! The ship is so sweet smelling as it is!

The Chloe-Greer thing was also daft. He's asking for forgiveness because he's going to have to kill her. Amazingly Chloe is now a saint because she actually forgives him! St. Smurfette!

[jelgate]

Hahaha what a bunch of smart*sses around here . I meant off course to ask: does this episode take a place in the main story-arc or was it more of a filler-and-tie-loose-ends episode?

Very few if any SGU stories are just filler. The fact it has development from previous episodes makes it arc based

[thekillman]

i found it to be one of the better episodes.


also anything even implying supernatural will result in a cop-out or "cheap" aspect. wheter it's danny dying or the shuttle.

or in BSG, Baltar locating the Tyllium storage. which he literally just randomly picked.

in fact, the entire first season of BSG has lots of infinitesimally small chances having a lot of impact. not including the various prophetic visions, passages, and random findings.


so why is this bad? they have a shuttle, people. now we're gonna destroy the universe!

i'm far more interested in the return of the seedship. telford+intelligent aliens + ancient space ship at full power (the only reason it was stationary was due to some error), plus a gate = return. in fact i'd be disappointed if it DIDN't return.

[Sp!der]

it was okay... not every episode can be a 10 right? ..after malice it was to be expected to have a slower paced episode, so I am fine with that as long as the mid season finale is gonna rock! ...after that I am gonna rewatch Season 1- 2.0 and than its gonna be long wait for season 2.5 i wished they would not make this long hiatus....

[Kaeb]

This episode was an excellent one IMO. We got throwbacks to the fans with balding asian guy, we got a new shuttle, we got some excellent character moments and we were even rewarded with the notion that not only are there aliens out there advanced enough to do all the things they've done, they're also charitable enough to not only give the Eden settlers another chance to say goodbye, but to provide Destiny with the shuttle fully repaired in the first place.

GREAT, episode.

[ArchaeoNerd]

This episode was all about saying goodbye... the Faith planet crew "sent home" to Destiny to say goodbye to their friends; Chloe saying goodbye on her Kino videos.

Caine explained why the obelisk people couldn't just restore them to life permanently... he said that they could give them their bodies back, but not their souls. The "reanimated" crew were only shadows. So these aliens are awesomely powerful, but powerful in a different way than the Ancients, who brought Daniel Jackson (and his soul) back from the dead several times.

I think that the story brought closure to Caine's crew, which reminded me of an episode of Star Trek Voyager called "Course: Oblivion", which showed what eventually happened to a set of duplicates of the Voyager crew left behind on a toxic planet. However, I'm kind of sad that their story is over (supposedly). I like having loose ends dangling around that might get picked up again later. I'm still hoping that we'll see Palmer and Curtis in some new context.

ArchaeoNerd

[kamae]

All of the above.

/signed other than the fact that Chloe will be on many more episodes so she wont be killed "off"

[mi_guard]

Brian J. Smith mentioned on his twitter account today:

The events in 'Visitation' are open to interpretation, but here's mine: I think they were a "gift" from the makers of the 'Faith' planet. They saw those people suffering and dying so they tried to regenerate them and send them back to us. Unfortunately they didn't get the recipe right. Maybe they'll try again one day? But I think it's full of meaning and it's not a filler episode - it all ties in to what's happening with Chloe. Just like the people from 'Faith', she's slowly watching herself die and we're having to find ways to deal with it. Her condition is terminal. It will have to be dealt with eventually. There's denial, dread, helplessness, withdrawal, etc.

And TJ's baby is another interesting conundrum that we don't really fully answer on purpose - was it the ship implanting a dreamed simulation in her mind? Is it possible the makers of the planet could make a baby for her? Or is the baby just dead? It could be any of those things and more and that's why it's so heartbreaking to me.

[AndSoItBegins]

Hahaha what a bunch of smart*sses around here . I meant off course to ask: does this episode take a place in the main story-arc or was it more of a filler-and-tie-loose-ends episode?

Its not about anyone being a smart---. Its about people being tired of posts like yours which try to hold EVERY episode of SGU to a standard that no other series was expected to be held to. What was the point of any episode of SG1 or SGA? What was the point of any episode of any show that aired this week?

And stop trying to cover up what your true intent was because your title made it all to clear.

[StefanSGA]

Its not about anyone being a smart---. Its about people being tired of posts like yours which try to hold EVERY episode of SGU to a standard that no other series was expected to be held to. What was the point of any episode of SG1 or SGA? What was the point of any episode of any show that aired this week?

And stop trying to cover up what your true intent was because your title made it all to clear.

Well, excuse me for asking a serious question.... You're implying all kinds of stuff about me with your response and i hope you're not doing this with every other SGU-fan around here, because there aren't that many left. I'm seriously considering leaving this board, because i really don't like responses like yours. So thank you for ruining this thread.

[jelgate]

Brian J. Smith mentioned on his twitter account today:

They let him put that all in a tweet? I'm in most agreement. They left in ambigous for a reason. We just don't know because well their are just things we are unaware even at the moment.

[mi_guard]

They let him put that all in a tweet? I'm in most agreement. They left in ambigous for a reason. We just don't know because well their are just things we are unaware even at the moment.

I do not know if they let him put all that , in any case he did. Maybe he'll get a phone call from the writers to 'shut up' in the future