'Resurgence' (210) General Discussion

[sgc]

Young said to broadcast a message, they never specified to who.



That's also possible, but why didn't Destiny ever see the seed ship? - FTL?

He did specify to the attackers in order to call off the attack. Doing so may have triggered Destiny to signal the seed ship again, but Telford said that they have been trying to catch up with them, indicating that the seed ship knows where Destiny is, but was always a step behind, until they changed course.

It may also be possible that:

(1) Destiny didn't find it important to tell them (I doubt that)
(2) They weren't looking or were too busy fighting
(3) The seed ship was in FTL and Destiny was not.

[J-Whitt Remastered]

He did specify to the attackers in order to call off the attack. Doing so may have triggered Destiny to signal the seed ship again, but Telford said that they have been trying to catch up with them, indicating that the seed ship knows where Destiny is, but was always a step behind, until they changed course.

It may also be possible that:

(1) Destiny didn't find it important to tell them (I doubt that)
(2) They weren't looking or were too busy fighting
(3) The seed ship was in FTL and Destiny was not.

This.

[Mozzza]

He did specify to the attackers in order to call off the attack. Doing so may have triggered Destiny to signal the seed ship again, but Telford said that they have been trying to catch up with them, indicating that the seed ship knows where Destiny is, but was always a step behind, until they changed course.

It may also be possible that:

(1) Destiny didn't find it important to tell them (I doubt that)
(2) They weren't looking or were too busy fighting
(3) The seed ship was in FTL and Destiny was not.

True, I guess we'll find out come ep 11.

[garhkal]

Though the destiny CAN receive subspace signals in FTL otherwise how would it know to drop out for a gate connection.

[sgc]

Though the destiny CAN receive subspace signals in FTL otherwise how would it know to drop out for a gate connection.

However, that is through the Stargate, which has a different subspace connection. Communications are most likely a completely different entity.

[garhkal]

While i can understand the gate may be onn a 'different connection; why would they be a different entity to the connection that the comms use?

[akill10]

While i can understand the gate may be onn a 'different connection; why would they be a different entity to the connection that the comms use?

Think of how things are here. Radio/Satellites/phone lines all separate entities that basically are used for the same thing. Comms

[Matt G]

1. New bad guys. Hmmmm...

2. New allies! I'm giving the Ursini the benefit of the doubt at the moment.

3. I am not however giving Chloe the benefit of the doubt. She is clearly starting to submit to her Blue self both physically and mentally. I reckon she's telling people the Ursini can't be trusted purely because the Blues have bad history with them and she's the reason they're in this mess. Whatever she's done it won't have been good.

4. Interesting to see Rush trying to bond with Eli. Can he be trusted? Not sure.

Things are certainly interesting.

[sgc]

1. New bad guys. Hmmmm...

2. New allies! I'm giving the Ursini the benefit of the doubt at the moment.

3. I am not however giving Chloe the benefit of the doubt. She is clearly starting to submit to her Blue self both physically and mentally. I reckon she's telling people the Ursini can't be trusted purely because the Blues have bad history with them and she's the reason they're in this mess. Whatever she's done it won't have been good.

4. Interesting to see Rush trying to bond with Eli. Can he be trusted? Not sure.

Things are certainly interesting.

Can he be trusted? NO. Will we? Probably. Does he deserve the benefit of the doubt? Maybe.

[garhkal]

Think of how things are here. Radio/Satellites/phone lines all separate entities that basically are used for the same thing. Comms

I guess.. but many use different means. The stones and the ship both use subspace.

[sgc]

I guess.. but many use different means. The stones and the ship both use subspace.

They both use subspace, but they don't operate on the same subspace equivalent of frequency. They merely have a similar function: communication.

[tscchope]

Telford was in a different galaxy, the dialogue confirmed that.
Colonel brainwashed by the Lucian Alliance Telford admits he's been hooked up to an Ursini pod and yet our intrepid heroes instantly agree to his plan.

That they were there at all stemmed from an incredibly vague report from Rush. Destiny's sensors are much more sophisticated.

No-one mentioned the similarities in design of the alien ships with Destiny. Identical swirls and squiggles.

Whejn the drones were reported as active, they all decided to go to the window and have a look, instead of preparing to fight.

Has Young ever commanded anything other than a desk or did he fly offin his fighter plane without checking fuel reserves, weapons mix and systems working properly? Guess the anser is no.

The return of Telford and the aliens was so obvious that surprise just doesn't enter the equation.

Rush tellling Eli if he gave into rage , he'd make a serious mistake that woould cost everyone dearly belonged in Visitation.

At a time when Scott should have been preparing his troops for battle, he was talking with Chloe.

When battle was joined, Young quickly lost control, just as he had during the simulation.

Escaping into a sun and destroying all the pursuing drones, Destiny was safe and should have stayed there. The 40% reserves rule is nonsense. First time they docked withthe seeder ship, they were drawing power off to enable the gate to be dialled. Destiny is still regenerating the massive damge it suffered before the humans boarded. The ship should have been fully explored by now and that is a major plot hole. Despite the respite, Young still didn't call up an inventory of weapons systems or shield strength. It certainly should be possible to tell Destiny to suspend regeneration make full power available for fighting. If nothing else , they could have stayed 4 hours so that their own FTL drives were functional.

The Ursini weren't staying around to fight. Their ships already destroyed told them they couldn't win this battle. Young should have known.

Chloe decides to help. Whatever her mutation, she has not finished changing. Cloverdale hints at her final form. Atlantis was built after Destiny, so it's no surprise that some of the design features remained the same. I'm not even sure of the reason Eli went to see Chloe.

The guns Destiny is using look like ack-ack batteries. Actually using something more potent than point defence weaponry would be helpful. That's what Chloe was doing, bringing the secondaries on-line.

For an original series SGU is already fast becoming a cliche. A brilliant outsider brought in to solve a problem the rest of the team couldn't solve -bringing Eli in just like Dr Jackson in the Stargate movie. Now, the Ursini have woken something up, just like the humans did in SGA when they awoke the Wraith. If they've been around a long time, chances are they are in Destiny's database under "THE BIG BAD - do not disturb". But the Destiny database never actually tells them what alien races are native to the galaxy they are currently traversing as well as the likely craft sizes and fighting potential.

As usual, Rush goes off somewhere - perhaps Twin Destinies will show us where.

Young is in despair and unable to do anything useful as his dream looks like becoming reality.

2/10 and a refresh needed.

[morbosfist]

Half of that sounds like you haven't even watched the episode. To go down the list:

Telford was in a different galaxy, the dialogue confirmed that.

No, he wasn't. The seed ship was only a month behind in the same galaxy.

Colonel brainwashed by the Lucian Alliance Telford admits he's been hooked up to an Ursini pod and yet our intrepid heroes instantly agree to his plan.

What choice did they have?

That they were there at all stemmed from an incredibly vague report from Rush. Destiny's sensors are much more sophisticated.

Based on what?

No-one mentioned the similarities in design of the alien ships with Destiny. Identical swirls and squiggles.

Because there are none.

Whejn the drones were reported as active, they all decided to go to the window and have a look, instead of preparing to fight.

When the drones came online, everyone went to their safe zones. They only watched through the window prior to that.

Has Young ever commanded anything other than a desk or did he fly offin his fighter plane without checking fuel reserves, weapons mix and systems working properly? Guess the anser is no.

Watch the show, because they've brought this issue up numerous times. THe weapons can't just be magically fixed, it's dangerous work.

Rush tellling Eli if he gave into rage , he'd make a serious mistake that woould cost everyone dearly belonged in Visitation.

Not the point of their conversation at all.

At a time when Scott should have been preparing his troops for battle, he was talking with Chloe.

Try paying attention. There wasn't even a battle going on when he was talking to her.

When battle was joined, Young quickly lost control, just as he had during the simulation.

And you'd do better how, exactly?

Escaping into a sun and destroying all the pursuing drones, Destiny was safe and should have stayed there. The 40% reserves rule is nonsense. First time they docked withthe seeder ship, they were drawing power off to enable the gate to be dialled. Destiny is still regenerating the massive damge it suffered before the humans boarded. The ship should have been fully explored by now and that is a major plot hole. Despite the respite, Young still didn't call up an inventory of weapons systems or shield strength. It certainly should be possible to tell Destiny to suspend regeneration make full power available for fighting. If nothing else , they could have stayed 4 hours so that their own FTL drives were functional.

Destiny isn't regenerating anything. It doesn't have self-repair. The ship is huge and they only have 80 people on board. They can't explore the whole thing, much less fix it quickly. Your inventory comment is ridiculous because they do exactly that when preparing for battle. Their FTL drives were damaged, not simply inactive. Waiting would do nothing, they needed to be repaired.

The Ursini weren't staying around to fight. Their ships already destroyed told them they couldn't win this battle. Young should have known.

They did stay to fight. They moved ahead to fight the drones.

Chloe decides to help. Whatever her mutation, she has not finished changing. Cloverdale hints at her final form. Atlantis was built after Destiny, so it's no surprise that some of the design features remained the same. I'm not even sure of the reason Eli went to see Chloe.

Maybe to keep her company?

The guns Destiny is using look like ack-ack batteries. Actually using something more potent than point defence weaponry would be helpful. That's what Chloe was doing, bringing the secondaries on-line.

Unless hidden weapons come out of nowhere, those batteries are point-defense.

As usual, Rush goes off somewhere - perhaps Twin Destinies will show us where.

Or he just couldn't make it up there any faster.

Young is in despair and unable to do anything useful as his dream looks like becoming reality.

Again, watch the episode. He was not in despair, he was in control. Can't do much when you can't retreat.

[sgc]

True, I guess we'll find out come ep 11.

...or... maybe not.

@tscchope: nice SN. Go Terminator. (and Stargate )

Telford was in a different galaxy, the dialogue confirmed that.
Colonel brainwashed by the Lucian Alliance Telford admits he's been hooked up to an Ursini pod and yet our intrepid heroes instantly agree to his plan.

No. It did not. Find it in the dialogue and post it here. Still, they encountered the seed ship after they made the jump to their current galaxy.

That they were there at all stemmed from an incredibly vague report from Rush. Destiny's sensors are much more sophisticated.

That's an assumption that can't be made at this moment.

No-one mentioned the similarities in design of the alien ships with Destiny. Identical swirls and squiggles.

Squiggles? That is most likely a production error. They have nothing to do with Ancient design.

Whejn the drones were reported as active, they all decided to go to the window and have a look, instead of preparing to fight.

They went to the windows to observe what was going on. By the way, they were mostly civilians reporting them. Their job is to report things like that.

Has Young ever commanded anything other than a desk or did he fly offin his fighter plane without checking fuel reserves, weapons mix and systems working properly? Guess the anser is no.

LOL desk. It was not his responsibility to check fuel reserves, weapons mix, or functionality. His job was to fly the thing. It was the job of the technicians to do that for him.

The return of Telford and the aliens was so obvious that surprise just doesn't enter the equation.

It was a surprise unless you saw spoilers.

Rush tellling Eli if he gave into rage , he'd make a serious mistake that woould cost everyone dearly belonged in Visitation.

No; it belonged in Aftermath. It is the way of Stargate to not bring things up until two episodes after, especially when talking about emotional scenes.

At a time when Scott should have been preparing his troops for battle, he was talking with Chloe.

Yes, he was. However, people do make mistakes. The purpose of the show is to show how these people are imperfect, not how they are perfect in every single way.

When battle was joined, Young quickly lost control, just as he had during the simulation.

How does this make the episode bad? It makes an episode bad if you have them win every situation immediately without any conflict or issue.

Escaping into a sun and destroying all the pursuing drones, Destiny was safe and should have stayed there. The 40% reserves rule is nonsense. First time they docked withthe seeder ship, they were drawing power off to enable the gate to be dialled. Destiny is still regenerating the massive damge it suffered before the humans boarded. The ship should have been fully explored by now and that is a major plot hole. Despite the respite, Young still didn't call up an inventory of weapons systems or shield strength. It certainly should be possible to tell Destiny to suspend regeneration make full power available for fighting. If nothing else , they could have stayed 4 hours so that their own FTL drives were functional.

No, Destiny was not safe to stay in the middle of a star. The rule is not nonsense. Also, we don't know if Destiny is "regenerating" the damage it has suffered prior to our boarding or after our boarding. It is not organic and it does not have a "Junior". They have had more important things to deal with than explore the entire ship, especially considering the fact that there are areas/sections that are sealed off because they are exposed to space. They have to seal those first before they can explore the ship like that.

IIRC, they did have up weapons and shield strength. They also did tell Destiny to shut down everything other than shields.

I don't know where you're getting the 4 hours outside FTL thing from. You have to be in FTL for at least four hours before you can drop out, but not out of FTL four hours before you can enter FTL again.

The Ursini weren't staying around to fight. Their ships already destroyed told them they couldn't win this battle. Young should have known.

The Ursini ran away, presumably. Young knew that their ships were destroyed, but Destiny was built by the Ancients. It's instantly better.

Chloe decides to help. Whatever her mutation, she has not finished changing. Cloverdale hints at her final form. Atlantis was built after Destiny, so it's no surprise that some of the design features remained the same. I'm not even sure of the reason Eli went to see Chloe.

I agree. The answer of why Eli went was because they were friends, and Eli cares about her a lot.

The guns Destiny is using look like ack-ack batteries. Actually using something more potent than point defence weaponry would be helpful. That's what Chloe was doing, bringing the secondaries on-line.

Destiny's weapons were solely for defensive purposes, so that the ship wasn't destroyed. Destiny was not meant to be an offensive ship. That could be what Chloe was doing, but for some reason, I doubt that.

For an original series SGU is already fast becoming a cliche. A brilliant outsider brought in to solve a problem the rest of the team couldn't solve -bringing Eli in just like Dr Jackson in the Stargate movie. Now, the Ursini have woken something up, just like the humans did in SGA when they awoke the Wraith. If they've been around a long time, chances are they are in Destiny's database under "THE BIG BAD - do not disturb". But the Destiny database never actually tells them what alien races are native to the galaxy they are currently traversing as well as the likely craft sizes and fighting potential.

That is because the Destiny hadn't encountered them yet. The seed ships can't collect historical information or cultural information. They only collect data specificially about the seeded planets and the star charts.

As usual, Rush goes off somewhere - perhaps Twin Destinies will show us where.

Maybe this time he really was going to the bathroom .

Young is in despair and unable to do anything useful as his dream looks like becoming reality.

2/10 and a refresh needed.

They are not being attacked by blueberries. I'm sorry that you rated it so low, but that is your opinion.

You had some pretty good ideas.

[LEKY]

hello all
SGU last episode was very interesting. I love SGU. Please tell me where you be next episode? I know that now because of Christmas break.