Pro-civilian bias?

[Lord Hurin]

"Every action has an equal and opposite reaction."

The military forced there hand and that was the only way because young doesn't listen to any civilian.

Do you disagree that the military's hand was forced when they took back the ship?

[The Mighty 6 platoon]

Put an ancient shield around the base and the civilians can play football!

So I take it you don't have a serious answer then?

[Nemises]

So I take it you don't have a serious answer then?

Your example doesn't fit the situation the destiny is in.

[Lord Hurin]

Your example doesn't fit the situation the destiny is in.

How so?

-Military establishment, check
-Civilians there due to emergency, check
-No way out and no hope of help or supplies, check

What's missing?

[The Mighty 6 platoon]

Your example doesn't fit the situation the destiny is in.

Fits it fine. Plenty of situations on earth where a command has been cut off, with both military and civilian personnel and the military remain in charge.

[jelgate]

"Every action has an equal and opposite reaction."

The military forced there hand and that was the only way because young doesn't listen to any civilian.

Yeah right. Just because he doesn't agree doesn't mean Young doesn't listen

[Nemises]

Do you disagree that the military's hand was forced when they took back the ship?

The military forced there hand FIRST.

All of this could have been avoided if young listened to the scientists about the ship decisions rather than using his own head which clearly doesn't know anything about the ship. He was willing to fire on the alien ships even though rush and eli told him that the shield would fail and they'd be a sitting duck without the ancient shield. The civilians dont want to poke there noses in the military decision.

I can see this heading down the BSG route!

[The Mighty 6 platoon]

All of this could have been avoided if young listened to the scientists about the ship decisions rather than using his own head which clearly doesn't know anything about the ship. He was willing to fire on the alien ships even though rush and eli told him that the shield would fail and they'd be a sitting duck without the ancient shield. The civilians dont want to poke there noses in the military decision.

Wouldn't Eli and Rush arguing with Young about whether to fire the weapons be civilians poking their noses in a military decision?

[carmencatalina]

Wouldn't Eli and Rush arguing with Young about whether to fire the weapons be civilians poking their noses in a military decision?

I think not - in this case, Eli and Rush are the experts on what will or won't keep the ship intact. It is a bit weird, because on Earth, that expert would be military. But not here.

[Nemises]

How so?

-Military establishment, check
-Civilians there due to emergency, check
-No way out and no hope of help or supplies, check

What's missing?

Its much more complicated than that. For one the military is answerable to the govt on earth and military personnel can also be court marshalled.

Earth can't do anything to young if he stops using the stones!

[carmencatalina]

Also, the weird thing here (which wouldn't be true in an Earth situation) is that the experts on the weapons, shields, basically all the tech are the civilians. They know more than the military in this case. To not have their input is worse than dumb, it is suicidal.

[Nemises]

Wouldn't Eli and Rush arguing with Young about whether to fire the weapons be civilians poking their noses in a military decision?

It would be if they were lecturing them about there rifles!

Fact of the matter is that the destiny is the scientists specialization and taking care of hostile aliens is the military's.

[Lord Hurin]

Its much more complicated than that. For one the military is answerable to the govt on earth and military personnel can also be court marshalled.

Earth can't do anything to young if he stops using the stones!

But the hypothetical base in Afghanistan answers to no one and their personnel is above the law? Huh?

Young stopping using the stones doesn't prevent anyone else from using them. I think after this coup d'etat, he's definitely not going to be willing to stop people from doing that.

Wait, I'm at a loss to recall a time when Young DID prevent anyone from using the stones, except in Space, which was justified.

[Nemises]

But the hypothetical base in Afghanistan answers to no one and their personnel is above the law? Huh?

Young stopping using the stones doesn't prevent anyone else from using them. I think after this coup d'etat, he's definitely not going to be willing to stop people from doing that.

Wait, I'm at a loss to recall a time when Young DID prevent anyone from using the stones, except in Space, which was justified.

How long would the base be cut off from the rest of the military ? a month ? two ?

Chances are the destiny cant get back to earth and the civilians dont want to live like cattle for the rest of there lives. Plus the good part of the first 10 episodes there wasn't any enemy so why were the military gun tottling ?

[Lord Hurin]

How long would the base be cut off from the rest of the military ? a month ? two ?

Chances are the destiny cant get back to earth and the civilians dont want to live like cattle for the rest of there lives. Plus the good part of the first 10 episodes there wasn't any enemy so why were the military gun tottling ?

Why not have the guns with them at all times? It looked to be only sidearms anyway. They didn't know who or what was in this section of space. Besides, when did the soldiers having guns become a bad thing? Should the civilians have them instead, or would you rather they be kept with the guys who are trained to use them if the need arises?