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Originally posted by SGFerrit View PostGeorge Lucas is a hack. The best thing that could happen to the Star Wars franchise now would be for someone else to have a go at it, but he'll never let that happen. With SGU Wright seems to be going bold new places, and I think the franchise will be bigger and better. I can't say the same for Star Wars, considering what Lucas did to it.
I don't know if I'd say Wright/Cooper are taking SGU in a "bold" new direction either. It's definitely a new direction, but considering how the evolution of the franchise has always been something that gets bigger and better each year I wouldn't use that word.
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i wouldn't call lucas a hack. Prior to the episode 1-3 debacle the man had dozens of hit movies. american graphiti, episodes 4-6, the stuff he did with spielberg
I do think that he fell in love with his own idea, didn't have or didn't listen to anyone that tried to call him on it, and the franchise suffered from a decade of self indulgence.
since he could afford to bank roll the whole thing on his own, he didn't need to justify the idea to anyone, so he had carte blanch to do whatever he wanted
even the most brilliant creator in the world needs a good editor.
and when the creator edits his own work...well if a person that represents himself has a fool for a client, a creator that edits himself has the same
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Originally posted by Skydiver View Posti wouldn't call lucas a hack. Prior to the episode 1-3 debacle the man had dozens of hit movies. american graphiti, episodes 4-6, the stuff he did with spielberg
I do think that he fell in love with his own idea, didn't have or didn't listen to anyone that tried to call him on it, and the franchise suffered from a decade of self indulgence.
since he could afford to bank roll the whole thing on his own, he didn't need to justify the idea to anyone, so he had carte blanch to do whatever he wanted
even the most brilliant creator in the world needs a good editor.
and when the creator edits his own work...well if a person that represents himself has a fool for a client, a creator that edits himself has the same
I agree with your points on needing a good editor though, as well as your previous points about needing to take an objective step back.
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Originally posted by Skydiver View Posti wouldn't call lucas a hack. Prior to the episode 1-3 debacle the man had dozens of hit movies. american graphiti, episodes 4-6, the stuff he did with spielberg
It also has to do with the fact that I was 11 when I saw TPM and absolutely loved it back then. Guess I was the perfect age for that movie. *shrug*
I do think that he fell in love with his own idea, didn't have or didn't listen to anyone that tried to call him on it, and the franchise suffered from a decade of self indulgence.
He was very into where CGI and special effects were going and he wanted to showcase how far they've come while showing what happened and where everything came from. There's nothing wrong with that.
So, you either like the result or don't. There's no need to shake your fist and scream to the heavens about it.sigpic
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Originally posted by Descent View PostI agree with Cornarch that 1-3 were not a 'debacle'. Rabid fans just made it out to seem that way. Really, they're alright movies. All flash, not too much substance (as were the originals, really). 3 in particular was pretty good.
It also has to do with the fact that I was 11 when I saw TPM and absolutely loved it back then. Guess I was the perfect age for that movie. *shrug*
Well, some of the fans (kinda like SG fans) feel entitled to it and think it's their franchise. I don't think that's the case.
He was very into where CGI and special effects were going and he wanted to showcase how far they've come while showing what happened and where everything came from. There's nothing wrong with that.
So, you either like the result or don't. There's no need to shake your fist and scream to the heavens about it.
There are no regrets. Thank you Brad Wright and everyone else for SGU,
and the amazing Stargate franchise in general.
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Originally posted by Skydiver View Posti wouldn't call lucas a hack. Prior to the episode 1-3 debacle the man had dozens of hit movies. american graphiti, episodes 4-6, the stuff he did with spielberg
I do think that he fell in love with his own idea, didn't have or didn't listen to anyone that tried to call him on it, and the franchise suffered from a decade of self indulgence.
since he could afford to bank roll the whole thing on his own, he didn't need to justify the idea to anyone, so he had carte blanch to do whatever he wanted
even the most brilliant creator in the world needs a good editor.
and when the creator edits his own work...well if a person that represents himself has a fool for a client, a creator that edits himself has the same
Wow skydiver... You're amazing
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Originally posted by jelgate View PostI think I might need a drool bucket over here.
Yes I'm a shallow thunker but you people already knew that
[EDIT]Also...this picture further confirms what I've already thought was the case (spoiler based on previous trailers):
Spoiler:The woman on Scott's bed holding his hand is Chloe...in case anyone didn't think so
I can hear the wind hitting the sails of the ship already...
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Originally posted by jelgate View PostThen we shall be shallow together. Especially if its directed at Chloe.
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Originally posted by Coronach View PostI just got done posting the same response in the promotional photo thread, .
[EDIT]Also...this picture further confirms what I've already thought was the case (spoiler based on previous trailers):
Spoiler:The woman on Scott's bed holding his hand is Chloe...in case anyone didn't think so
I can hear the wind hitting the sails of the ship already...
You may be right. I'm all for that. I vowed long ago to make Chloe my second favourite character...second after Wray of course.
And Scott is just plain hot so that's all the reason I need.sigpic
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