What to do if there is another Supergate?

[Sauron18]

If there is a gate in the system, then the system is probably inhabited. IMO anyway. I think the virus is a good idea.

Actually, not anymore, remember how supergates are made:

1) When the Ori build a supergate, they dial from a normal gate in their side to a normal gate here.

2) They send a prior here to put a shield on the planet here, while on the other side one of their planets (probably uninhabited) is crushed by a shield in the same manner and the wormhole connection jumps to a supergate they already have there.

3) That takes care of one Side's supergate.

4) Next, they wait until somehow they have sufficent energy on "our" side so that the shield can envelop the whole planet.

5) They send segments, which form a gate next to the planet, the planet is crushed and the wormhole of the just destroyed stargate jumps to this supergate.

And Voila! A Supergate on each side.


This means that whatever inhabited world there was in this system (probably only one), it was destroyed to create the Supergate, which would make destroying the Star perfectly alright.

[JanusAncient]

This all depends, on if they discover it in time. If it all happens like in "Beachhead." Otherwise, they're screwed. If the Ori decide to build another SuperGate, and it isn't caught in time, they will have already sent perhaps dozens of ships through the thing. I don't understand why more weren't sent in the first place, yada, yada, blah, blah, blah. What was I thinking, they won't be albe to stop another SuperGate from being built. There are already Ori ships in the galaxy. That being the case, they will be defending the planet, the Prior, and the SuperGate, and any ship that dares to encroach in that sector of space will be destroyed.

[Sauron18]

True, they can't stop it while it's being built, but once it has (which, since they look for new BH's then it's the only way they ever find them) they can blow up the sun of the system and destroy the gate.

That is if the black hole isn't between the star and the gate, which would be unfortunate, but the supernova may still destroy it (the Supergate)

[Major_Griff]

Better yet they could just put something in the middle of the gate so a wormhole won't be established.

That would not work! You'd have to have like a cover stone or an Iris. Think of it this way, If you stuck your arm through a normal gate and someone dialed in, the wormhole would still establish and you'd just loose your arm. And THats if you mange to dodge the kawoosh.

[ablevins425]

Actually, not anymore, remember how supergates are made:

1) When the Ori build a supergate, they dial from a normal gate in their side to a normal gate here.

2) They send a prior here to put a shield on the planet here, while on the other side one of their planets (probably uninhabited) is crushed by a shield in the same manner and the wormhole connection jumps to a supergate they already have there.

3) That takes care of one Side's supergate.

4) Next, they wait until somehow they have sufficent energy on "our" side so that the shield can envelop the whole planet.

5) They send segments, which form a gate next to the planet, the planet is crushed and the wormhole of the just destroyed stargate jumps to this supergate.

And Voila! A Supergate on each side.


This means that whatever inhabited world there was in this system (probably only one), it was destroyed to create the Supergate, which would make destroying the Star perfectly alright.

Your right on all counts, but if we were to infect the entire gate system or shut it down, then we basically save the entire galaxy, or at least give us time to come up with a more perminant solution to the Ori threat. Or time to find Merlin's weapon. I was looking for a way to save as much life as possible. The way that the worlds keep turning to the Ori I believe that completely shutting off all the gates is the best option, whether that be by a virus or other means.

[StarGi]

What about a force field of some kind, like the one on Atlantis's stargate ? It would be powered directly from supergate, so it wouldn't run out of energy.
So Ori ships would never make it to our side.

[ablevins425]

What about a force field of some kind, like the one on Atlantis's stargate ? It would be powered directly from supergate, so it wouldn't run out of energy.
So Ori ships would never make it to our side.

Interesting thought, but can they draw power directly from the gate? I don't know if that is possible or not.

[J_schinderlin56]

What about waiting a second or 2 after the Kawoosh of the supergate and detonateing a few of those Mark 11 Naquadria bombs, those are way more powerfull than the simple naquadah ones they used in the peg project. and cause the wormhole to jump off the gate. It would probably jump to a regular gate that couldn't handle it. That gate would blow up or something and Kill the Ori ships in transit. Maybe?

[StarGi]

Interesting thought, but can they draw power directly from the gate? I don't know if that is possible or not.

We have Asgards on our side. They should figure out something. If Supergate draws power from black hole, so would the shield.

My point is, the best and "safest" way to stop/destroy Ori ships is, while they're in wormhole. Better than attacking them after they arrive.

[ablevins425]

What about waiting a second or 2 after the Kawoosh of the supergate and detonateing a few of those Mark 11 Naquadria bombs, those are way more powerfull than the simple naquadah ones they used in the peg project. and cause the wormhole to jump off the gate. It would probably jump to a regular gate that couldn't handle it. That gate would blow up or something and Kill the Ori ships in transit. Maybe?

To make a wormhole jump the bomb has to be set on the outgoing wormhole not the incoming. Correct me if I am wrong but I think this happened twice.

[Mitchell82]

True, they can't stop it while it's being built, but once it has (which, since they look for new BH's then it's the only way they ever find them) they can blow up the sun of the system and destroy the gate.

That is if the black hole isn't between the star and the gate, which would be unfortunate, but the supernova may still destroy it (the Supergate)

Possibly but it could also blow them up too.

[ljsevern]

if supergates are configured to dial galaxies, does that mean you can't have more than one supergate per galaxy? (well working that is?) e.g. if you dialed earth (when the antartic gate wasnt discovered) you went to the SGC - and not antartica - so if you dialed milky way, you would go to the current active supergate.
Also, that could be a reason why the ori disengaged the original gate - they dialed to another galaxy for some reason - like another invasion force or another galaxy under thier influence?

[Mitchell82]

if supergates are configured to dial galaxies, does that mean you can't have more than one supergate per galaxy? (well working that is?) e.g. if you dialed earth (when the antartic gate wasnt discovered) you went to the SGC - and not antartica - so if you dialed milky way, you would go to the current active supergate.
Also, that could be a reason why the ori disengaged the original gate - they dialed to another galaxy for some reason - like another invasion force or another galaxy under thier influence?

About the Ori only being able to connect to only to one gate that makes sense. Another galaxy I don't know. They were only aware of us when we tried to make contact so they may not know the location of other galaxy's like Ida the asgard home galaxy, and if they do we are really screwed!

[JanusAncient]

How pretty another Supergate, way to go Ori. They can't be stopped, pass the mustard, and let's wait for all the pretty ships.

[Col. Shadow Quinn]

My idea ensures that the ori don't build another supergate because ship are destroyed and the Ori still have their supergate.

I meant the closest orbit possible. By the way, destroying supergate will only cause the Ori build more supergates.