Jonas Quinn ... gone for good?

[Vyse]

Yeah, they will never bring Jonas back unfortunately. For whatever reason TPTB totally dispise him, and will never bring him back. It's annoying that after an entire season of character development he's just forgotten. I have seen several opportunities to bring him back in at least as a guest star. For example, Reckoning would have been perfect for him to return. One of the things that bothered me about tht episode is that magicly, Carter is able to read Ancient out of the blue. It would have been perfect to bring Jonas back, to help with the translation. Also since the threat was at the entire galaxy. and TPTB were wrapping up the Replicator ark, and changing the Goa'uld ark (boy does it suck now!!) it would have been perfect to have him back for Reckoning.

[GateGipsy]

can someone please explain this? I keep hearing that Jonas has been forgotten, that he was treated badly on the way out.

OK I'll have a stab at it At least this is how it felt from my point of view.

They set up a great premise for his character that was never followed through on. OK so as the new kid on the block, I expected he'd be the wallpaper, given that Tealc had already done his time there. But with his introduction in Meridian, I was expecting angst, soul searching, someone who had to redeem himself, someone who had left behind all his family, friends, home etc. But I didn't see any of that. Instead of the character that we had in Meridian, it felt like they kept writing him as if he was Daniel, and I felt that wasn't a fair way to treat either Jonas or Corin.

In fact, the best Jonas scenes we got were in Season 7 after Daniel was back, as if they now had the real Daniel to write for they could do Jonas as a character in his own right. That's just how it felt to me anyway. And then he was gone, and we didn't hear anything about him.

Now where I work, a team member left and heck, we mention him quite a bit. We still socialise with the guy, he still drops by the office etc. I don't expect that to happen in a TV show - it wouldn't add to the drama. But as an example, in Season 6 Tealc was mentioned that Daniel had taught him to drive. That sort of thing. In the clip show that we got in Season 6, all the clips showed Daniel - none of them showed Jonas. In the clip show in Season 7 none of them showed Jonas.

I know that there are contractual considerations in these things, but if they could pay out the royalties or whatever it is called to Daniel for the bits they showed in Season 6, why didn't they do the same thing for Season 7 and show Jonas?

Now it seems as if we're not getting any Jonas appearances at all, and indeed that might be something that is down to Corin rather than the TPTB.

But it does feel to the fans at any rater (IMO) as if they felt that Jonas wasn't important enough to us, that he wasn't rated by the fans in the same way as Daniel and Jack, and therefore they don't need to worry about him.

[veryangrystargatefan]

I hope this doesn't sound bad but TPTB need either new eyeglasses prescriptions or brain transplants. If these people would quit making this show more about themselves and start caring more about what the fans want to see, they would look at these forums and figure out that a large percent of the fan base would like to see Jonas/Corin return in some capacity. I mean, hello, the fans are the reason that Stargate is now the longest running sci-fi series ever. I think they should listen to us. I think the fans should write TPTB and let them know what we think!!!! That's my two cents on that. Sorry, I always have to put my two cents in somewhere.

Rachel (veryangrystargatefan)

P.S.- I'm also going to get to meet Corin in July at Shore Leave!!!

[Gregorius]

I mean, hello, the fans are the reason that Stargate is now the longest running sci-fi series ever. I think they should listen to us. I think the fans should write TPTB and let them know what we think!!!! That's my two cents on that. Sorry, I always have to put my two cents in somewhere.

*Shakes head* You ever heard the story of Star Trek? That show that had the same two show runners for a long time (Berman & Braga)? Or the story of Star Wars which had one showrunner for a long time (George Lucas)? Both stopped caring about what the fans wanted when the show got big enough. Their mentality was "We've made this show what it is today and not they fans. Besides if we screw up the fans will still watch it" and it killed Star Trek and Star Wars, and now TPTB of Stargate have been infected by the same mentality.

[jckfan55]

I know you can't run a show by fan poll--I think fan tendency is to all want them to listen to our perspective and not to anyone else's. Still, there are sometimes when I think they would do well to pay some attention.

[randy]

But didn't SG1 promise shield technology to Jonas' people were they ever to acquire it? Couldn't they make a storyline out of that?

[prion]

OK I'll have a stab at it At least this is how it felt from my point of view.

They set up a great premise for his character that was never followed through on. OK so as the new kid on the block, I expected he'd be the wallpaper, given that Tealc had already done his time there. But with his introduction in Meridian, I was expecting angst, soul searching, someone who had to redeem himself, someone who had left behind all his family, friends, home etc. But I didn't see any of that. Instead of the character that we had in Meridian, it felt like they kept writing him as if he was Daniel, and I felt that wasn't a fair way to treat either Jonas or Corin.

Ah, well, yeah. Basically, they just made Jonas into a clone of sort of daniel, which to me, was shoddy writing. I didn't think it was bad treatment for the actor, just crappy writing on the part of those who pen the scripts (and don't get me started on how they ripped off the Russell Crowe movie...)

In fact, the best Jonas scenes we got were in Season 7 after Daniel was back, as if they now had the real Daniel to write for they could do Jonas as a character in his own right. That's just how it felt to me anyway. And then he was gone, and we didn't hear anything about him.

Agreed. I actually thought Jonas showed potential when he was teamed up with daniel.

[Gregorius]

But didn't SG1 promise shield technology to Jonas' people were they ever to acquire it? Couldn't they make a storyline out of that?

Jonas who? Sorry, I've never heard of this Jonas or his people. Furthermore do I wish to point out we're only at season 9 next fall and not season 10. I don't understand where people get the strange idea we had a season with a person named Jonas Quin

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[Bragi]

That seems to be the case.

Too bad, Langara had some more potential storylines.... especially now with the Ori and all.

[HirogenGater]

It's Sci-Fi anything is possible. He might make an appearance someday.

[GateGipsy]

Ah, well, yeah. Basically, they just made Jonas into a clone of sort of daniel, which to me, was shoddy writing. I didn't think it was bad treatment for the actor, just crappy writing on the part of those who pen the scripts

It was both. They brought in Jonas, and presumably Corin put his all into what he had to work with. But they never gave him a chance to prove either himself or the character. It was as if they were saying 'well if we can't have Daniel then we're not going to bother', and then as soon as they got Michael back that was it, goodbye Jonas. And the line we were given at the time was that it was a) budgetary. Couldn't fit in that many leads on the budget they had and b) Jonas and Daniel were too similar.

Now, I am not going to complain about getting Daniel back. I am just happy to see him back on the show.

But with reason a) well, now we're getting five leads in season 10, Daniel, Sam, Tealc, Cam, and Vala. and then with b) Jonas and Daniel shouldn't have been alike. Jonas should have been given storylines that suited his character not ones that made him repli-Daniel.

So yes, it does feel like the actor was treated shoddily.

[Formerhost]

You're welcome to try, but the producers obviously don't give a good golly damn what the fans think or what anyone- other than themselves- want and I think that probably goes double where Corin/Jonas is concerned.

Just keep in mind that you'll be opening a can of worms that every Jonas-hating, Corin-bashing fan in Gateworld will feed upon.

Perhaps the producers have a good reason of not wanting Nemec working with him again? We're not there so we don't know what's happening there... after hours for example. Perhaps Nemec did something which TPTB considered bad enough to deserve it actually?

[the fifth man]

Perhaps the producers have a good reason of not wanting Nemec working with him again? We're not there so we don't know what's happening there... after hours for example. Perhaps Nemec did something which TPTB considered bad enough to deserve it actually?

That is a definite possibility. You're right, we don't really know for sure.

[generaloneill]

i think they should bring jonas to atlantis because it would be great to get him away from all the stupid people on his planet it would be a great way to get him back on stargate.

[ShadowMaat]

Perhaps the producers have a good reason of not wanting Nemec working with him again? We're not there so we don't know what's happening there... after hours for example. Perhaps Nemec did something which TPTB considered bad enough to deserve it actually?

Since speculation about such things is strictly forbidden by the rules of Gateworld, it doesn't really matter, does it? He's gone, he isn't coming back and WHATEVER the reason it sure as hell isn't going to change the fact that I miss him and resent the very abrupt manner in which Jonas was written out.