Sam Carter /Jack O'Neill Ship Appreciation Thread 2.0

[Akamaimom]

But I think it's almost quite literally correct. Nothing like being made to feel utterly precious and feminine to make one *act* utterly precious and feminine.

Or to be powerful--she's powerful after season 8--I think that she's been given the knowledge of her own force. Not to give that **act** too much importance, but I think that she's finally figured out how 1) important she is in the life of another human being, and 2) how much she can FINALLY be herself. There is a certain strength in all that.

[JenniferJF]

Or to be powerful--she's powerful after season 8--I think that she's been given the knowledge of her own force. Not to give that **act** too much importance, but I think that she's finally figured out how 1) important she is in the life of another human being, and 2) how much she can FINALLY be herself. There is a certain strength in all that.

Exactly. She no longer sees being a woman as being a weakness, or even something she has to apologize for (I've always gotten that impression from CotG - that she was used to having DEFEND the fact she was a woman).

Which is why I always come back to that scene in SGA: Search and Rescue when she greets a wounded soldier at the 'gate with an arm around his shoulder. That's just *Sam* - feminine and in command.

And, frankly, that 'act'... what it *means* psychologically... can be very important. At least when done right. And I don't mean technique, I mean emotions - because it really can represent an acceptance of all that you are because, frankly, in many ways, if you *choose* to be, you can never be quite as openly vulnerable or *trusting* as during it... It really can be giving yourself completely to another person and becoming extremely vulnerable to hurt and disappointment. And it's not like a military maneuver when you have to be or you'll die. It really is a *choice* to become vulnerable and trusting.

Being accepted like *that* really can change a person I think... especially as it tends to simply be a single act representation of a total relationship... being open and accepted there generally requires it everywhere else in the relationship as well.

And like you said, she really is *powerful* because - as with the injured soldier - showing others who you really are doesn't make you weak - it makes you and them stronger.

[Akamaimom]

Exactly. She no longer sees being a woman as being a weakness, or even something she has to apologize for (I've always gotten that impression from CotG - that she was used to having DEFEND the fact she was a woman).

Which is why I always come back to that scene in SGA: Search and Rescue when she greets a wounded soldier at the 'gate with an arm around his shoulder. That's just *Sam* - feminine and in command.

And, frankly, that 'act'... what it *means* psychologically... can be very important. At least when done right. And I don't mean technique, I mean emotions - because it really can represent an acceptance of all that you are because, frankly, in many ways, if you *choose* to be, you can never be quite as openly vulnerable or *trusting* as during it... It really can be giving yourself completely to another person and becoming extremely vulnerable to hurt and disappointment. And it's not like a military maneuver when you have to be or you'll die. It really is a *choice* to become vulnerable and trusting.

Being accepted like *that* really can change a person I think... especially as it tends to simply be a single act representation of a total relationship... being open and accepted there generally requires it everywhere else in the relationship as well.

And like you said, she really is *powerful* because - as with the injured soldier - showing others who you really are doesn't make you weak - it makes you and them stronger.

Agreed.

And besides, it's fun.

[Fluffy17]

Hmm..

Did you know you can get episodes onto your phone or ipod? And then, even if you can't watch it, you can *listen* to them through your earphones and no one will even know what you're doing?

I'm just sayin'....

Just emerged from my Friday afternoon - season 9 - not the same without Jack....
Oh - did I really really want to know that (thinks briefly) I did I did

[JenniferJF]

Agreed.

And besides, it's fun.

rofl.

Yes. Let's not lose sight of that.

And cheap too.

EDIT: Hubs would like me to add: For the woman. Generally. For the guy... Not so much. Until you can become a farmer instead of a hunter and then it gets cheap. Well... except for the little people. Who are very very expensive. Men. Can't live without them.. shouldn't share your posts with 'em.

[Akamaimom]

rofl.

Yes. Let's not lose sight of that.

And cheap too.

EDIT: Hubs would like me to add: For the woman. Generally. For the guy... Not so much. Until you can become a farmer instead of a hunter and then it gets cheap. Well... except for the little people. Who are very very expensive. Men. Can't live without them.. shouldn't share your posts with 'em.

I am rolling, as well. And the little people aren't cheap at all! As I write the check for school lunches--Yikes!

And I've shared posts with my spouse too--but yeah--it's not worth it.

[Pol]

Oh wow, get this! I just got a review for one of my early Campfires, set around Solitudes. The reviewer is from Italy and she said this:

I do love Solitudes! I think that I became shipper after this episode! (and
moreover in the Italian version, Jack says "Sam" not "Sara"! LOL)

How freakin' cool is that!

I love the Italian translations, they're so...truthful! <grin!>

-sorry if I'm interrupting a serious discussion, I just flew in here to share that with you all.

[Akamaimom]

Oh wow, get this! I just got a review for one of my early Campfires, set around Solitudes. The reviewer is from Italy and she said this:

I do love Solitudes! I think that I became shipper after this episode! (and
moreover in the Italian version, Jack says "Sam" not "Sara"! LOL)
How freakin' cool is that!

I love the Italian translations, they're so...truthful! <grin!>

-sorry if I'm interrupting a serious discussion, I just flew in here to share that with you all.

That is cool! And no, not a serious discussion, since what started it (at least on my part) was a bit of fluffy gutter. . .

And I bet that translator was a shipper. . .

[starlover]

Hmmm, wondering where's starlover gone...

http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1266584881

I haz had busy day...had to get up a car from some place...had to go to the hairdresser...got glasses for in the evenings(so I don't wear my contacts too much) I look way too nerdy...went out of dinner and have soon a birthday.

buuuuuuuuuut GRACE KISS! Squee!

And me saw y'all found the app on FB!


On the topic of Sam's evolution, the only thing I gotta say in comparison to S8 Sam is way more laid back in S9 and thus what y'all say; comfortable in her own skin. I think this evolution made Sam more balanced and "better" than before.

[Akamaimom]

laid back

Tee hee hee. You said "laid back".

[Stella]

hi! my posts don't have to be modded anymore.

[starlover]

Tee hee hee. You said "laid back".

I did

*grins*

<splashes>

[Akamaimom]

hi! my posts don't have to be modded anymore.

Congratulations! I bet mine should be. . . LOL

[XFchemist]

I love the Italian translations, they're so...truthful! <grin!>

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oh yes! I do think that our dubbers are shipper!
Read what I wrote about Moebius:
http://forum.gateworld.net/showthrea...0#post11093820

[hedwig]

Time to celebrate:

Happy Birthday
Melissa / SG1fanintn