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More musings on Sanctuary…
Since Helen “Just a Doctor” Magnus trained during Victorian times and apparently is still practicing medicine, I suspect what she learned in medical school may be different than current medical practice. Dr. Helen is in need of some Continuing Medical Education. With the best interests of AT and Dr. Magnus in mind, the Samanda thread offers a modern medical primer to get Dr. Magnus up to speed:
(Spoiled for kiddie safety, just medical stuff, but perhaps not PG.)
Spoiler:
1. Electrotherapy has progressed past eels and electric fish.
2. Tincture of opium is no longer the medication of choice; tincture of oxycontin and tincture of Starbucks are preferred.
3. Sulfa powder is no longer necessary, thanks to Teal’cs flatulence difficulties and the greenhouse effect, ambient sulphur levels on earth are enough to fend off all microbes.
4. Botulinum toxin is no longer the feared killer of the poor, but is sought after and is available only to the very rich.
5. Medicine has progressed way beyond the barbaric practices of days of old. We do not bludgeon holes into skulls to treat brain problems; we now make those same holes with a drill.
6. We are no longer trying to grow lost limbs; we are trying to prevent growth of 5th and 6th limbs.
7. In Victorian times the majority of patients could not pay a doctor, in current times, the majority of patients cannot pay a doctor.
8. Historically, war leads to civil disorder which leads to conditions favorable for human disease i.e. the plague. Not much has changed, except we now have a spectacular number and variety of plagues.Last edited by tagger; 10 February 2007, 08:29 AM.Words have tremendous power. The right words spoken by the right people at the right times can lift up communities, transform lives, mend relationships, break hearts—even topple empires.
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Maybe I've been obsessing about Wicked too much recently, but I had this idea about Sanctuary and the Jack storyline...
Instead of musing, I'm going to put this in a concrete example simply so it's easier to understand what I mean. I don't mean this is definitely what I think's going to happen though
Spoiler:
In Victorian London, there's been a surge in women giving birth to "posessed" children. Demons of various kinds. The women tend to be prositutes, simply because the demon father can impregnate them more easily, especially given the moral values of the day.
Whereas Helen's father would try and take these children and raise them in his sanctuary, trying to hone their gifts etc (Think Xavier from X-Men), Jack didn't want to risk the chance that these demonic children would eventually turn against them. His solution was to kill them before they were born, giving them no chance to turn.
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Alternatively, it could be the angle that it was one demon trying to spawn many others in London and Jack was going on a killing spree to stop this. No good vs evil element in there, but is the show really brave enough to portray such a notorious criminal as a "misunderstood" being? It's one thing declaring the Wicked Witch misunderstood, but a notorious, real life criminal is another thing entirely.
The Jack the Ripper element is one that I am quite worried about and the one thing that is putting me off watching the show. Having said that, I have the utmost faith in Amanda, that she wouldn't allow anything tasteless on the show.
Yepp, it's blank down here.
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Originally posted by scarimor View PostDude.... look at the thinness of that ice...
Originally posted by m_wendy_r View PostI didn't even pick that bit up,
Spoiler:I hope it's not that Hollywood British Accent that they use on films and stuff or in that episode of SG-1 where you had that British Ambassador. *shivers*
I trust Amanda will pull a great British accent off without going all cheesy on us.
Wendy
HugsOriginally posted by minigeek View PostSpoiler:Well her family is British, so she should have the accent down pat.
Originally posted by ForeverSg1 View PostHmmm, my guess is...
Spoiler:
...the story takes place in the present. Though I'm not sure it will be England. The Sanctuary compound her father set up could have been anywhere in the world. However according to Amanda, Helen is suppose to be 157 years old and the Jack the Ripper killings took place in 1888 so...
2007 - 1888 = 119
157 - 119 =
38 --- Helen's age when she sought Sanctuary.
So my guess is Helen and Jack meet before the killings. They were probably colleagues. Helen falls in love with Jack. They become engaged and soon she finds out that she is pregnant with his child( out of wedlock ).
After that I'm either guessing that Jack goes on his killing spree and she seeks Sanctuary to get away from him OR she disappears to have their child and Jack goes on a crazy killing spree...which leads us to our story.
The part I'm interested in is the how being around the creatures in the Sanctuary has blessed or perhaps cursed Helen with long life. I'm assuming it did the same thing for her daughter and if we are to assume the young, blond girl in the picture is her daughter then that leaves the question as to how her daughter would age 18 odd years and yet Helen doesn't appear to have aged at all. Maybe it has to do with close proximity to the creatures and Helen may not have allowed her daughter to be around them until she was older?
My husband's theory is that the aging process is just slowed substantially, but because children grow so quickly in the early years, her daughter appears to have aged 18 years over a 119 year period whereas Helen has probably only aged a year or two. Poor Helen, could you imagine having a toddler for thirty some years? Wow.
Not really sure, but it's a very interesting premise. Definitely looking forward to the new series.
Originally posted by Kett1701 View PostHi all -
I've been an occasional lurker on this thread, but I've never posted here before.
I have a favor to ask from you.Spoiler:About a week ago I got bored and was checking out various actor's listing on IMDB.com to see what their new projects were. I wound up at Amanda's and made the mistake of checking out the message board there as well. IMDB's message boards are usually pretty boring (and short). The subjects on the boards come up with the most recent activity bringing that particular thread to the top.
What happened is that one of those poisonous types posted something stating that Amanda (or her people, depending upon which version she's telling) was mean to someone at Shore Leave. She also stated that Amanda was seen outside with Olivia and was smoking. The person making the accusations was NOT there and every time that we've been able to point out the truth to her, she just gets more vile.
We successfully got her initial posts deleted, but she just moved to the new thread that my friend had started. We're working on getting that thread deleted too.
Meanwhile, this is where you come in. Since the most recent threads show first, would some of you be willing to go to Amanda's IMDB.com page and make new threads there?
I know that the people on this thread already know that Amanda is beautiful, talented, a wonderful person, etc. All that you need to do is to create a bunch of threads over there saying the same things that you say over here. By doing that, the current thread will be buried deep down and eventually go away.
Please do not post on the current thread. That will just keep it active for her. I've already made that mistake.
Many of you on this thread have already met Amanda and have first-hand knowledge of how wonderful she is. I don't want this vile person to have the last word in a place that a lot of strangers that haven't met Amanda will see.
Thanks,
Kett Kettering
Shore Leave Co-Chair
Originally posted by Gate gal View PostI'm going with Kat on this one. We've tried making other forums nice places, and it is a depressing task. Just stay here. Bring your friends. We've told Amanda to avoid the other places, and you should, too. Sky and the other mods make this a safe haven. Kamil does the same at amandatapping.com. I bet Myrth handles things at theamandatappingclub.
Originally posted by scarimor View PostFreaks and weirdos. Sad as all hell.
edit: Oh, anyone want to twist that again into an indignant "So people who criticise Sam are freaks, are they?" - take your best shot.
Originally posted by ForeverSg1 View PostIn my opinion, the best thing any of us can do is simply post a link to Gateworld, AT.com, Gabitevents.co.uk or any number of other sites where Amanda is looked upon kindly.
Never in this world can hatred be stilled by hatred; it will be stilled by non-hatred - this is the law Eternal. ~Buddha
Originally posted by minigeek View PostJust poppin' in to say:
I LOVE YOU GUYS!!
...before I head out for dinner.
Couple of years ago, I couldn't have imagined a more positive, wonderful group of people to share with. You guys have all been a real inspiration to me (and continue to be!); you've helped me through a tough year (whether you know it or not), and I'm so blessed to know you all.
Hugs & Love!!
mini(the maudlin - but just being honest!)geek
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Originally posted by Myrth View PostYup 4am for me
Originally posted by kes View PostI remember hearing it was an Indian. Yeh, I think it was in the audio commentary.
Originally posted by majorsal View Postjust looking at this picture, you KNOW amanda had to have been an adorable child! i sooooo want to see a pic of her as a little girl.
sally
Originally posted by ChopinGal View PostOmigosh, I have to set you guys straight ... everyone's misunderstood Amanda completely ... here's the real scoop:
Spoiler:Dr. Helen fell in love with Jack the Stripper and can't get him out of her system ...
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11...ckStripper.jpg
Majorsal is gonna sooooooooo love Sanctuary.
Originally posted by suse View PostTHWACK!
Bad! CG, Bad!
amused
suse
Originally posted by StargateSister View Posthi everybody... hope everything is fine.... I mean absolutely brilliant!!
I just wanted to say thankyou to absolutely everybody for spreading so much positive energy aroung GateWorld and in paricular this Thread. It is great coming here and its like a shelter from the real world... everybody is so friendly all the time... I justed wanted to say thanks!!
Ok...be back later...I'm late for dinner!!"Live Peace - Speak Kindness - Dwell in Possibility"
Hug Your Loved Ones!!
~Amanda Tapping
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I just caught up (I was avoiding Bounty spoiler till I had seen it) and Wow! So much news.
First, Sky... why didn't you ever tell us about Cam?
The Urban Rush interview... I loved it! I love her smile And I want to see this show so much!Spoiler:It sounds like my perfect show! When I was a kid, I loved a show called Bramwell. Dr Bramwell was a female doctor in 1889 (50 years late for Jack the Ripper, but oh well) and I love all that stuff. Mixing it with present day SciFi, vampires, werewolves...
Bounty. I loved it.Spoiler:Yeah, the Sam moments were cute, but my favourite parts were the interactions between Vala and Cam's mother I have a very similar relationship with my best friend's mum and he hates it! I recognised all the "knowing looks" between Vala and Cam's mum... even the dirty looks Cam threw both of them.
My friend buries his head and sighs if I mention that I bumped into his mum and had a nice chat... "You weren't being *charming* again were you?" Hehe, always.
So yeah, Happy Birthday to anyone I missed! And go milestone earners!
And don't worry, I now have 2 entire days off to work on the Samandan story.
*ETA*
Oh, and something completely off topic... See, in just over a week I'm starting University (in case I haven't mentioned this enough ). I'm helping my friend, the president of the uni physics club, organise a movie night. Can anyone suggest some really geeky/physics films? Unfortunately I have already been told that I will be shot down if it has "star" in the title.Last edited by NZNeep; 10 February 2007, 01:03 AM.Neep, NZBG, Eileen!
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Fly-by post!
An invitation for a special event at the Sam/Jack Ship Family Discussion Thread....this Sunday, February 11th...
(placed in spoilers so those who are not interested will not have to read it)
Spoiler:Here's the official invitation to:
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Please stop by with some stories, piccies, observations, etc., and help make Valenship special...
Just trying to reach those who might be interested. Thanks!
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Originally posted by RepliCartertje View PostThat car was brilliant...I am not that fond on cars for me as long as they drive...I am happy lol...but that one was just AMAZING!!!
I was so sad that they ditched him
And that we never saw Sam on a motorcycle still waiting on that one Cause we know she loves that...so when are we going to see her on it???
Spoiler:into Atlantis on it.
Kidding... mostly
Originally posted by majorsal View Postand besides, smoking isn't bad, it's just bad for you. (i have yet to see a smoker get into a car and mow down ppl because of their 'disability')
Is that saying that having a disability is bad compared to smoking? I'm only asking because I'm confused. Very.
Wendy
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Originally posted by Tracy Jane View PostMaybe I've been obsessing about Wicked too much recently, but I had this idea about Sanctuary and the Jack storyline...
Instead of musing, I'm going to put this in a concrete example simply so it's easier to understand what I mean. I don't mean this is definitely what I think's going to happen though
Spoiler:
In Victorian London, there's been a surge in women giving birth to "posessed" children. Demons of various kinds. The women tend to be prositutes, simply because the demon father can impregnate them more easily, especially given the moral values of the day.
Whereas Helen's father would try and take these children and raise them in his sanctuary, trying to hone their gifts etc (Think Xavier from X-Men), Jack didn't want to risk the chance that these demonic children would eventually turn against them. His solution was to kill them before they were born, giving them no chance to turn.
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Alternatively, it could be the angle that it was one demon trying to spawn many others in London and Jack was going on a killing spree to stop this. No good vs evil element in there, but is the show really brave enough to portray such a notorious criminal as a "misunderstood" being? It's one thing declaring the Wicked Witch misunderstood, but a notorious, real life criminal is another thing entirely.
The Jack the Ripper element is one that I am quite worried about and the one thing that is putting me off watching the show. Having said that, I have the utmost faith in Amanda, that she wouldn't allow anything tasteless on the show.
I am hoping that this is going to be good. So often this kind of thing just doesn't work, but with this cast and crew, I'm holding out. At the very least it will be very interesting.sigpic
Courtesy of smurf, as always
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Oh ok...so quiet..and yet earlier it was so...not so quiet...well...I'm going to say goodnight...coz I think I need to get off and do some RL stuff...I have totally enjoyed the posts today...thanks everyone!!
I had a bit of drama tonight with my little beast...that is to say, our four wheel drive...I'll put it in spoilers coz it's way OT but gee it feels good to get it off the chest..anyhow...this is what happened 2 hours ago...
Spoiler:I somehow managed to blow a tyre...ripped a hole in it...luckily my uncle and 2 brothers were able to help me put the spare on...but you know what...my husband...who is away atm...he was so good about it...my family kept saying..."David is gonna kill you...OMG...look what you done to the car"...it's a blown tyre for pete's sake...it's not like I smashed the car...and when I was on the phone with David I just told him exactly what happened and he said..."ok...we just have to get a new one"...hehe...I was so proud of my hubby...no wonder I love him so much!!
So to get right back on topic...Sam is a great character but Amanda...she's just so totally awesome!!!
I'm hoping to bring my brother and sister inlaw into GW tomorrow...they're big fans of the show...well they are now...hehe!!
Goodnight Samandans...take care, be safe and be happy...LTS!!
(((Samanda)))Last edited by Chelle DB; 10 February 2007, 05:02 PM. Reason: it just needed to be...edited...sorry!"Live Peace - Speak Kindness - Dwell in Possibility"
Hug Your Loved Ones!!
~Amanda Tapping
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Hey Everyone,
Boy! you guys posted a lot while I was sleeping lol.
Originally posted by gater88 View PostHello everyone!
I just thought i would come and join you guys because I have been a Sam fan for quite a long time and have recently become an Amanda fan! All thanks to RepliCartertje! She's got me converted!
Welcome gater88/Amber!!have fun, and welcome to the Samanda family
Originally posted by minigeek View PostJust poppin' in to say:
I LOVE YOU GUYS!!
...before I head out for dinner.
Couple of years ago, I couldn't have imagined a more positive, wonderful group of people to share with. You guys have all been a real inspiration to me (and continue to be!); you've helped me through a tough year (whether you know it or not), and I'm so blessed to know you all.
Hugs & Love!!
mini(the maudlin - but just being honest!)geek
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Hooray For Samanda!!!
*spreading the Samanda love!*
Julia(samcarterrules)sigpicThanks to Ambermoon for the wonderful Avatar Sig by: Me
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Originally posted by m_wendy_r View PostI don't get that.
Is that saying that having a disability is bad compared to smoking? I'm only asking because I'm confused. Very.
Wendy
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