The Sam & Jack Shippers' Archive

[Guest]

Hey everybody! Our Sam video is finished!

"The Way I Am" by Ana Johnsson

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Hope you like it!

Es ist fantastisch!!

Dieses ist groß!

*Mei Mei will now apologize for the mutilation of the German language!!*

[Guest]

They should make a show. Call it "The Round Spinny Thing." It should start four people who go through it to other planets. Two of them should have feelings for each other. It'll be a hit!

By the way, congrats on making Royal Guard

Ack!! How'd that happen???

*Mei Mei wasn't paying attention!! Her 1000th post wasn't something profound or heralded by trumpets!!!*

[Ship Nana]

Carter: And when your levels have gone down, mosey yourself on over to my place with a plate of those yellow shipper cookies! Will have a party for two!


Is it bad that i dont know what yellow shipper cookies are for?

Why darling YELLOW SHIPPER COOKIES are for HWMS

[pittsburghgirl]

What?

What?

Invisotext ON:they were/are thinking of killing off Sam? That's the dumbest thing I've heard since Angel was not renewed.


Thank GOD they haven't done that. It would have killed any interest I had in the show. Losing Daniel was bad enough, at least they had the sense of small green apples and brought him back. Doing that other thing....words fail me.

where did that Sam being killed off come from? I don't remember even reading about it, much less the speculation-was this supposed to be a season 8 thing-or something they considered earlier? would have been a show killer for me.
rosemary

[auralan]

I was thinking more like alternate endings involving

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Carter handcuffed and in a cat suit... and still kicking ass, but you know.

Hmmm, that does bring to mind some interesting images, but I don't think there's any way to share them in a PG forum.

[ses110]

Caty I think it was a little easier to wait for the Ship when the episodes were better.I use to be able to watch the episodes again but with

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Season 8 I cannot watch the first half of Season 8 again.It is going to be very difficult to wait for January.I hope TPTB make it worth the wait not only for the Ship but the quality of the episodes.

[marimba26]

Okay, I've been thinking about Moebius and from reading a few other posts, I got an idea.

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Caty mentioned in a post that Sam wouldn't have to dump Pete. Someone else (forgive me for not remembering who) mentioned that they had a theory that Pete never existed. What if we take those two things and make them a reality. What if, when they go back to COTG and change whatever it is they are going to change, apparently having to do with Teal'c, that a few other things get changed. Nothing huge, we aren't wiping out the past eight years, but what if Sam and Jack/Sam or Jack accidently let something slip to one of their past selves. First, I have no idea if they will run into their past selves or not, but say it happened. When they finally do get back to the present, they come thru the gate and look around and realize that they did fix whatever it was they needed to fix, but there is a difference. Here's how it goes.........

Jack: What do you think? Did we do it?

Teal'c: I appears so.

Daniel: I guess time will tell. Maybe we should start asking questions, just to make sure.

Sam: Alright, but don't be obvious.

They all disperse throughout the SGC.

Jack (entering his office) Well, I'm still a General.

Walter: Excuse me sir. SG-8 is prepared to head off to P35-976.

Jack: Is there a problem?

Walter: No, just the routine mission to check on the inhabitants.

Jack: Tell them they have a go.

Walter: Yes sir. Oh and good luck with the plans.

Jack: Plans?

Walter: Your wedding plans sir? By the way, thanks for the invititation. I wish you and Colonel Carter all the best, as does everyone on the base. (He leaves)

Jack: Uh oh!!
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Daniel enters his lab. : Well, nothing seems different here.

Janet: Hey Daniel.

Daniel: Janet?

Janet: Hello to you too. Just wanted to remind you to come by the infirmary for your routine checkup. (she turns to go) Oh, and how does 7 sound?

Daniel (still looking shocked) Seven?

Janet: For dinner? Cassie is really looking forward to it and well, so am I. (She smiles at him.)

Daniel: Sounds fine.

Janet: See ya then.
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Teal'c enters his room: Everything is at it was. (he looks around and notices a picture of himself and Ishta. They are in full Jaffa wedding attire)
Perhaps not. (Teal'c exits his room)

Colonel Reynolds: Hey Teal'c. When are you leaving?

Teal'c: I have just returned.

Col. Reynolds: No, I mean for Chulak. I know you can't wait to see Ishta and Ryac. Give them my best. We'll sure miss you around here. If it wasn't for you Earth wouldn't be the safe place it is today. Take Care and Good luck to ya. (He leaves. Teal'c raises an eyebrow.)

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Sam enters her lab: Nothing different here.

Davis enters: Hey Sam, How's it going?

Sam: Major Davis, what are you doing here?

Davis: uh, Sam, it's Colonel Davis remember? I just came to talk to Jack about taking over.

Sam: Taking over?

Davis: As head of the SGC? Sam are you alright?

Sam: Uh, yea I guess.

Davis: Just wanted to say Welcome back and I hope that your wedding plans go well.

Sam: Wedding plan, yeah. Well, Pete and I haven't really set a date.

Davis: Pete? I was talking about you and Jack.

Sam: What?

Davis: Maybe you should go have Janet check you out. Oh and again Congratulations. (He leaves)

Sam: Uh oh!!! (Sam starts putting commands in her computer.)

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Sam, Daniel and Teal'c all head for Jacks office. They find Jack sitting at his desk, looking extremely confused. He looks up and locks eyes with Sam. They both looked stunned.

Daniel: You guys, Janets alive!!!

Sam: Colonel Davis told me, along with a few other things.

Daniel: Colonel?

Teal'c : It appears Ishta and I are married. There is a photograph in my room.

Jack: You aren't the only one? (He's still looking at Sam)

Daniel: What?

Sam: Apparently, Jack and I are engaged and planning our wedding.

Daniel: Uh, are we in an Alternate Universe.

Sam: I thought of that, but I checked everything out on the computer in my lab. Dates and times all match up, as do our cooridinates. We are on Earth, in Colorado and the year is 2005.

Daniel: So we changed more than we were supposed to.

Sam: That's my guess. From what I've seen the only differences seem to be with us and the people we are close to.

Teal'c: It also appears that Earth is safe from the Gouald. Colonel Reynolds informed me of this fact as he wished me luck on my trip back to Chulak.

Daniel: Oh my God, we did it!!

Jack: Ya think? Um, as everything appears to be hunky-dorey, would you two mind excusing us? (Jack says this as he is still looking at Sam.)

Daniel: Oh...yea..right...Um, Teal'c why don't we go get you packed for your trip.

Teal'c: yes, it seems I will be taking one. (They exit)

Sam: Um, sir?

Jack: Don't you think you should call me Jack? We are engaged.

Sam: What have we done?

Jack: Honestly, I'm the last person to have a clue.

Sam: What are we going to do? We can't go back. The whole trip was a longshot to begin with, I doubt it would work a second time.

Jack: Everything appears to be great here. If we went back again, who knows what we might screw up. We did what we went back to do and I think we should leave well enough alone.

Sam: But sir....uh.....Jack, how do we fix this?

Jack (he looks at her for a while and then smiles) What's to fix?

Sam: We're engaged!!!

Jack: I don't see the problem.

Sam (looks at him with surprise) Really?

Jack (he gets up and walks around the desk and stand right in front of her) Really. I think it worked out the way it was supposed to Sam.

Sam (stares into his eyes and starts to smile.) I think you're right......Jack.

Jack steps forward and puts his arms around her. She does the same.

Jack: So, do we have a long engagement or a short one?

Sam: Shouldn't we maybe have a few dates first?

Jack : Whatever you want.....Sam. (He leans in and kisses her, a really long slow perfect kiss.)

They both pull back and smile really really big!!

Jack: So, are you up for a little fishing?

Sam: Whatever you want......Jack.

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Okay, a few other things will happen, but thats my readers digest version. Sam doesn't have to break up with Pete because they never met, Janet is alive and well, Colonel Davis gets to take over SGC and Jack retires. SG Atlantis still gets to fight the wraith because they are in another universe and all is right with Earth. Works for me.

Sorry this was so long, but it just popped into my head. Let me know what you think, good or bad.

I just had to repost this because I absolutely love the way you think! Besides, it's been 600 posts since it's been seen so what the hey!!

[Major Fischer]

Ack!! How'd that happen???

*Mei Mei wasn't paying attention!! Her 1000th post wasn't something profound or heralded by trumpets!!!*

My 1000th wasn't profound either... it's slightly annoying aint it...

[Buc252]

Don't worry (((((((((((((((ses110)))))))))))))))


Don't forget that Sam also went to Jack's house in lost city 1 to talk.. she tried again in lost city 2 in the engine room ..and she'll try again in Threads...so she is trying ...she just doesn't know how to do it to come across well

When did Jack go to Sam's house to talk? Will be nice to see that too one day?!!

Caty

I can't defend Sam, and am on Ses's side here. Yes, she went to Jack's house in LC1, and she *may* have been going to bring it up again in the engine room in LC2, but there are a few flaws here.

Firstly, her timing was bad. In both cases, Jack had a death sentence hanging over his head. What kind of man would he be to enter into a relationship with her when he knew he only had days to live? He didn't need to lay his feelings on her at that point, and while it may sound selfish, he didn't need to laying hers on him with everything else that was going on.

Additionally, both of these occurences happened *after* she'd established her steady relationship with Isn't that a little like closing the barn door after the cows have gotten out? She *had* a guy. She *claimed* she was happy with him, that he made her happy. Would you want to have that on your conscience all your life - that you interfered with the happiness of a person you loved?

And lastly, don't forget - in both cases, we don't know what she was going to say. We *believe* it was going to be a declaration of some kind, but we don't know what kind. It could have been anything from, "it was an honor serving with you" to "You've been a great friend and I love you (but not *in* love)" to "I'm in love with you." But I find it very difficult to believe she was going to say this last while she was in a relationship with somebody else. I don't want to think that she's capable of being that disloyal. (Yes, I believe that having a relationship with somebody while you're consciously aware that your love belongs to somebody else is disloyal.)

This is just MO, but I'm not ready to write this pseudo-Sam we've seen in S7 and S8 a free ticket.

[marimba26]

Oh my gosh, Marimba, that was beautiful! Though I think I'm going to go cry for a spell...

That was just what I needed after a very long and rough day. ...the vid, not necessarily the crying.

Beautiful work, as usual! *big hugs*

EDIT: Because I remembered more stuff to say.

I'm really amazed at how well this fit Sam at the end of my fic! I've gotten so many comments about how the ending was dissatisfying and anticlimactic. I suppose it really was. And the ending killed me to write — I wanted it to end differently, but Jack and Sam have a longer road to travel than that. As I said in the final notes, it was about loneliness — to show how much they need each other, so it means more when they have each other.

And one more edit — if anyone wants to know what fic it is Marimba's talking about, it's Not in Kansas Anymore

Mel

Thanks! So glad you enjoyed the vid! I loved the fic! I think you're absolutely right that these two people are so very lonely. They need each other but it will be a long and arduous road. So bravo! Excellent job!

PS--MeiMei catching up on you right now. Then on to everyone else!

[LtLisa]

They should make a show. Call it "The Round Spinny Thing." It should start four people who go through it to other planets. Two of them should have feelings for each other. It'll be a hit!

By the way, congrats on making Royal Guard

Wormhole X-treme!

<g>

and yeah in Threads if

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stuPit buys a house without consulting her? how dumb and inconsiderate can you get?

[Blaise]

Filling the slot with Adam Baldwin is actually something that would make me really want a Season 9. I had hopes that he'd be a recurring character on either SG-1 or Atlantis, but I think I'll take his repeating the role of Jayne Cobb in Serenity over that now. That movie looks like it's going to be awesome. But seeing Colonel Dixon again could be very fun too.

I LOVE love LOVE Adam Baldwin...he's like....droool...and a terriffc actor...

But, I have an incredibly dumb question to ask, me being an uneducated stargate fan and all(still working my way through season 2 dvds!!), who did Adam Baldwin play on Stargate, and what episodes was he in?

[yoojoo]

Why darling YELLOW SHIPPER COOKIES are for HWMS

LOL!! So thats what those are for! I guess i wrote that line correctly then didn't i? Just how many different color cookies are there??? Are is there just that one kind?

[Blaise]

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...NO WAY ...He is not even funny as a character and the actor is not good enough to replace RDA.

RDA rocks the boat...and anytime with Sam in it.

I would certainly not watch the show if DD as Pete is part of the SGC team but I don't mind him to go to Atlantis ..far far away from the SG1 team .

Anyway I really don't think they'll do that ..Pete is not liked that much..but if he gets stuck in Atlantis and never to return to earth ..I'll be quite alright with that ..he could have his adventure of a lifetime with the Wraiths.
Good for the actor and good for the character

Caty

LOL...You know, I dont even know if I could handle watching him in Atlantis...I like the show too much to have it spoiled by Pete showing up...unless of course a wraith eats him...I could live with that!!

[Blaise]

NO WAY!!!!
They wouldn't do that. They are crazy, but not that crazy....

Yea, see I know that in my heart, but my head is saying crazy things, and suggesting that the PTB might be screwed up enough to suggest something like that. LOL. No disrespect to PTB intended.

It just feels like it's being set up...maybe i'm just reading too much into it all.