Gateworld Virtual Fleet 4.0 - Discussion thread

[Davidtourniquet]

^That is rather heavily dependent on the beaming technology. Doesn't the power consumption of the beaming technology itself make many of those applications unfeasible. Using it for sewage for instance seems rather opulent.

Also, in terms of the equipment/shopping list Davidtourniquet put together, can allowance be made for highly specialized devices that can only be deployed on a very limited number of specialized platforms? (I'm asking specifically in relation to the plasma cannon variant I described a few pages back)

It's possible, I've just done a rough list of stuff in the SG universe around 2025 based on pre-unending tech. As you could see from my list killman, there aren't that many nukes post-1GT. Where did you get 300MT from for the Hatak shield?

[guppy338]

mars makes for a very crappy colony with little amounts of water. also it doesn't have any useful resources like trinium.

mars would not be bad you have been a suporter of having the gate off world well mars would be a good place to have it also it would be a good place to biuld the ships they seid in the show that the are soyler syestem had not naquda not trinium they could have it

[puddlejumperOZ]

Can I make a suggestion, purely from a technical perspective. As we are eventually going to build our own fleet and ships, vessels. Can we standardise the nomenclature for descriptive service tag numbers.

As per canon, it was established capitol ships, ie the 303 and 304 are in the 300 series of ships out of the builders. But unfortunately TPTB got it dreadfully wrong placing the XF302 in the same series. As the latest US fighter marque number is the F35, it may have been more characteristic to give the F302 a number such as F100. If we are to replace the F302, and logic and supersedence would dictate we do, should we not start the newest gen of Tauri fighters from the example I gave.

Secondly is it possible here to introduce craft that are already established on the OSDT? I have a suitable small escort cruiser, that has been costed and could be multi-roled as well.

[blackluster]

^It would be pretty cool to start pitching ships. I haven't priced my destroyer/cruiser yet, but I do think there is enough info provided through Davidtourniquet's list that I could do a generic component catalogue for major ship systems simply listed in a format like 3rd gen reactor, 2nd gen shields, etc. and the specific numbers can be adjusted later.

[guppy338]

in piching the ships do you need to say who will be biulding it because earth is still going to be in its normal format ?

[puddlejumperOZ]

This is for Dave, seeing as how he's taken on the mantle of costing/supply Officer, how do you feel about Lt. Commander Dave?
See if you can do and estimate on this. It has been costed, but what do you think?

Spoiler:

CE/CG-340 Class Attack Cruiser
Production information Manufacturer
Tauri- IOA, and Offworld coalition partners
1/ Boeing Aircraft Seattle, WA USA
2/ ADI, Adelaide, SA Australia
3/ Nippon Heavy Industries, Nagoya, Japan
4/ EADS, Toulouse, France
5/ To be named offworld partners


Class
Cruiser
Cost
$46,000.000
Technical specifications Ship Length
138 meters
Ship Width
80 meters
Ship Height/depth
28.2 meters

Weight dry
28,000 tonnes

Maximum speed
125,000 miles per second

Engine unit(s)

Sublight Engines , 8
Maneuvering Thrusters , 16+ 4 vertical thrusters
Asgard Hyperdrive , 1
Fuel
Naquada
Hyperdrive system
Intergalactic/Extraglactic
Power plant
Naquadah Generators 6


Shielding

Asgard Shields
Cloaking Device , new
Hull
Naquadah/Trinium alloy
Sensor systems
CG340-multi phased array, 360 degree
Targeting systems
See above
Navigation system
Computer Navigational Systems
Countermeasures
Self-destruct
Venting System
Naquadriah Powerplant Cell Ejection Pod
Blast-door(s) Lockdown System
Armament
3 Asgard Heavy Plasma Cannon Turrets (CE) 5 (CG)
5 Quad Asgard Pulse Cannon Turrets (CE) 3 (CG)
Railguns 16
20 VLS Missile Tubes
Mark III and IX Nuclear Missiles
Horizon Weapons Platform (340 unique)
Complement
20 AC-401s (Various marks) (CE) 4 (CG)
16 F307c=s (CG only)
Crew
112 crew + Air Wing
Passengers (as per requirement)
100 Marines and or SF=s (4 less AC401's)
Cargo capacity
1200 tons
100 days worth of Consumables to 160 days if rationed.
Other systems
Asgard Core
4 Asgard Transporters
6 Ring Transporters
Long-range Transmitters

Usage Role(s)
Attack and Escort Cruisers
Deep Space Escorts
Leadship (Janet Fraiser)
Year introduced 2012
Affiliation
Tau'ri and Partners

[guppy338]

This is another pointless question round by me but with everyone knowing about the gate they are 3 questions and points I want to rise

1 the united nations would play a large role in the world in all my last post putting the large point on sharing the costs so why don't all earth ships continue form all countries and their for the cost will minuscule compeered to the cost on one or 2 nations is this a good idea

2 On the whole UN thing I think that all countries involved in the program should get a team or a base off world depending on the finances of course

3 And finally will earth using Goauld ships to supplement are fleet
Any ideas

[puddlejumperOZ]

This is another pointless question round by me but with everyone knowing about the gate they are 3 questions and points I want to rise

1 the united nations would play a large role in the world in all my last post putting the large point on sharing the costs so why don't all earth ships continue form all countries and their for the cost will minuscule compeered to the cost on one or 2 nations is this a good idea

2 On the whole UN thing I think that all countries involved in the program should get a team or a base off world depending on the finances of course

3 And finally will earth using Goauld ships to supplement are fleet
Any ideas

I'm not sure that even with the Stargate revealed, we'd get everyone on board in the UN. But certainly you would get all those and a few more who were traditional allies of the US.

And yes with many more nations involved, the costs would drop signifigantly.

Only if we can get the Free Jaffa to more warmly Ally with the Tauri

[fugiman]

Quick question, what if instead of a Goa'uld-Prior what about a Goa'uld and Wraith mix

Let's just say when the Goa'uld empire failed, a goa'uld took his most loyal and trustworthy jaffa and fled the galaxy after finding coordinates to Pegasus from an old Ancient computer system or something. Let's just say that after about 10 years they finally arrive,. When they Arrive in Pegasus a fight between the goa'uld and a wraith hive ship took place. So the Wraith beat the goa'uld and the queen of the hive was about to feed on the body of the goa'uld when the goa'uld jumped from the human body to the queen of the hive ship. So after gaining all the knowledge of the queen along with the knowledge of the goa'uld started to improve technology making a blend between the two species while also looking for any ancient technology. While this is happening the wraith on board don't realize it and just follow the queen, so the Goa'uld builds up it's technology base in Pegasus just waiting to retake worlds from the FJN along with finally beating the taur'i

[puddlejumperOZ]

Quick question, what if instead of a Goa'uld-Prior what about a Goa'uld and Wraith mix

Let's just say when the Goa'uld empire failed, a goa'uld took his most loyal and trustworthy jaffa and fled the galaxy after finding coordinates to Pegasus from an old Ancient computer system or something. Let's just say that after about 10 years they finally arrive,. When they Arrive in Pegasus a fight between the goa'uld and a wraith hive ship took place. So the Wraith beat the goa'uld and the queen of the hive was about to feed on the body of the goa'uld when the goa'uld jumped from the human body to the queen of the hive ship. So after gaining all the knowledge of the queen along with the knowledge of the goa'uld started to improve technology making a blend between the two species while also looking for any ancient technology. While this is happening the wraith on board don't realize it and just follow the queen, so the Goa'uld builds up it's technology base in Pegasus just waiting to retake worlds from the FJN along with finally beating the taur'i

It's plausible, but hopefully it wouldn't make them too uber. That was the reason I wrote the Goa'uld/Prior into my story, so that they would still have vulnarabilities of sorts.

[fugiman]

Well I was thinking that a merger between Wraith and Goa'uld wouldn't be that over powering and it would still take time to travel to both galaxies as the Goa'uld and Wraith only have interstellar travel so time would also be a factor but maybe we could have both ideas about Priors and Wraith

[fugiman]

One more quick question will their be 1 intelligence agency for Earth or will their be multiple ones?

[Davidtourniquet]

This is for Dave, seeing as how he's taken on the mantle of costing/supply Officer, how do you feel about Lt. Commander Dave?
See if you can do and estimate on this. It has been costed, but what do you think?

Spoiler:

CE/CG-340 Class Attack Cruiser
Production information Manufacturer
Tauri- IOA, and Offworld coalition partners
1/ Boeing Aircraft Seattle, WA USA
2/ ADI, Adelaide, SA Australia
3/ Nippon Heavy Industries, Nagoya, Japan
4/ EADS, Toulouse, France
5/ To be named offworld partners


Class
Cruiser
Cost
$46,000.000
Technical specifications Ship Length
138 meters
Ship Width
80 meters
Ship Height/depth
28.2 meters

Weight dry
28,000 tonnes

Maximum speed
125,000 miles per second

Engine unit(s)

Sublight Engines , 8
Maneuvering Thrusters , 16+ 4 vertical thrusters
Asgard Hyperdrive , 1
Fuel
Naquada
Hyperdrive system
Intergalactic/Extraglactic
Power plant
Naquadah Generators 6


Shielding

Asgard Shields
Cloaking Device , new
Hull
Naquadah/Trinium alloy
Sensor systems
CG340-multi phased array, 360 degree
Targeting systems
See above
Navigation system
Computer Navigational Systems
Countermeasures
Self-destruct
Venting System
Naquadriah Powerplant Cell Ejection Pod
Blast-door(s) Lockdown System
Armament
3 Asgard Heavy Plasma Cannon Turrets (CE) 5 (CG)
5 Quad Asgard Pulse Cannon Turrets (CE) 3 (CG)
Railguns 16
20 VLS Missile Tubes
Mark III and IX Nuclear Missiles
Horizon Weapons Platform (340 unique)
Complement
20 AC-401s (Various marks) (CE) 4 (CG)
16 F307c=s (CG only)
Crew
112 crew + Air Wing
Passengers (as per requirement)
100 Marines and or SF=s (4 less AC401's)
Cargo capacity
1200 tons
100 days worth of Consumables to 160 days if rationed.
Other systems
Asgard Core
4 Asgard Transporters
6 Ring Transporters
Long-range Transmitters

Usage Role(s)
Attack and Escort Cruisers
Deep Space Escorts
Leadship (Janet Fraiser)
Year introduced 2012
Affiliation
Tau'ri and Partners

Well for a start, we are not using unending weapons. I haven't really labelled myself as supply officer, I've just tabulated the equipment from the SG universe (and the most logical next steps) and tried to put a price on them and number of them. So sorry, but I don't agree with the equipment on the ship.

[thekillman]

PJOZ you can just enter your ship in the votings when they come.


the 300MT figure is a guess, and a reasonable number: powerful nukes take it out, not so powerful ones don't.


also i'm opposed against any random goauld mating. the wraith should be left out for now.


got plenty of ideas for what happened in Pegasus. but that's later.


Davidt the reason your figures were IMO incomprehendable is because they're just some tables with some numbers and no real explanation whats what, also i have the strong feeling that the tables are messed up.

[Davidtourniquet]

No there aren't killman, if you look at the tables it clearly says what they are. I've had to put some of the tables below another otherwise they would be too long for the page. How incomprehendable is: yield: 200kt or 136GT. That clearly says: the yield of the missile is 200kt or 136GT. One thing missing and I admit that is the headings for each section is in the table.
Right I'm attaching these again with proper headings, I really can't make it more obvious.