Gateworld Virtual Fleet 4.0 - Discussion thread

[puddlejumperOZ]

The intergalactic drive is more likely a waste of money, the ship just don't have the on board supplies for that sort of long distance crossing.
Carbon armor on top of the hull would increase durability, and inertial dampeners mean only a slight maneuvering penalty. Oh, add inertial dampeners.
Venting won't work on small craft, I assume venting is jettisoning the atmosphere?
Broaden missile types to vacuum-to vacuum, vacuum to air, and air to air.
Replace Gatling gun with same caliber railgun, it gives you the same rate of fire with an adjustable muzzle velocity.

What model missiles would they be, I'm only familar with those used previously

Well... we could add a shield modification that turns the shield into a semi-permeable layer after the shield fails instead of disappearing entirely. That layer would break up shaped charges, cause munitions to detonate earlier, and deform rounds passing through it.

What would we call the shield? Do we have one available already?

[puddlejumperOZ]

Well if everyone has one vote, then those who submit cannot vote for their own submission.

I think Dave that's pretty much how it is. Take other voting principles on GW, like the fic comps, you can't vote for your own there either

[immhotep]

What would we call the shield? Do we have one available already?

Well this kind of quasishield post fail could be covered by the general physics of how capitial ship shields are made. We have never actually seen as a graphic, shields go up or down on a mothership, only that they are solid when hit. My personal theory is that energy is suspended between magnetic fields, the energy is what is used to disipate incoming weapons fire. But if the shield fails from power etc, then its possible that only the energy being pumped in between will fail, not the magnetic fields sustaining the field. This could be the %'s that are refered too, the amount of energy left to sustain the shield in terms of energy being channelled between as a buffer from the generators. The magnetic field could be the redundent shield your talking about, able to cause minor interference with shells, mines and the like, but not powerful enough to stop say a fighter or serious missile or energy weapon..

[puddlejumperOZ]

Tep that's er great, I am impressed, but what name can I give it

[immhotep]

ElectroMagneticShield?

[puddlejumperOZ]

ElectroMagneticShield?

By Coson industries

CI Q12a series EM shield

[Crazy Tom]

What model missiles would they be, I'm only familar with those used previously

What would we call the shield? Do we have one available already?

Not sure, I'm unfamiliar with the classification systems, does anyone know how we would classify a VTV and VTA missile?

Because the physics of shields are so rarely touched upon, I would stay away form adding that sort of speculation to a spec Tep, Call it a magical thingy that behaves both as a wave and a particle. I think we could call it a wipple field, in real life the thin armor plate is called a wipple plate, so.. yeah.

And yes, making one would be a very straight forward proposition.

[puddlejumperOZ]

Not sure, I'm unfamiliar with the classification systems, does anyone know how we would classify a VTV and VTA missile?

Because the physics of shields are so rarely touched upon, I would stay away form adding that sort of speculation to a spec Tep, Call it a magical thingy that behaves both as a wave and a particle. I think we could call it a wipple field, in real life the thin armor plate is called a wipple plate, so.. yeah.

And yes, making one would be a very straight forward proposition.

I'll leave the missiles for later on the AC401, but the shield proposition for the Fraiser intrigues me, I'd like to hear some more discussion on that.

[immhotep]

I think just a note in the defence section stating 1x EM shield would cover that kind of backup protection. Which would usually be covered by a normal shield but when that fails the 'EM' shield can cause problems for some incoming weapons but is limited.

[puddlejumperOZ]

Oh and I've been thinking (dangerous yes I know)

The CAT loader in Aliens, Ellen Ripley used most effectively to get rid of Momma Alien, I think they should be standard gear on most ships and bases, what do you think?

[puddlejumperOZ]

I think just a note in the defence section stating 1x EM shield would cover that kind of backup protection. Which would usually be covered by a normal shield but when that fails the 'EM' shield can cause problems for some incoming weapons but is limited.

Nice one Tep, simple and to the point, thanks

[puddlejumperOZ]

Updated Version, added data thanks to Tep and again Crazy Tom

Diclaimer this ship does not belong entirely to me, it has been a collaborative project from the following enterprises.
Crazy Tom Inc: Blackluster & Co.: Davidtournequet Ltd: Immhotep Corp and PuddleJumperOZ Defence Industries

Spoiler:

CE/CG-340 Class Attack Cruiser Heroine Class

Production information Manufacturer
1/ Boeing Aircraft Seattle, WA USA
2/ ADI, Adelaide, SA Australia
3/ Nippon Heavy Industries, Nagoya, Japan
4/ EADS, Toulouse, France
5/ To be named offworld partners (optional)


Class
Cruiser/Escort/Missile-ship
Cost
$4.3 billion

Technical specifications
Ship Length 138 meters
Ship Width 80 meters
Ship Height/depth 28.2 meters

Weight dry 38,000 tonnes

Engine unit(s)
8 VASIMR-NPP Drives
Maneuvering Thrusters , 16+ 4 vertical thrusters (atmo only)
1 x Asgard modified Hyperdrive unit
3 x MKII Naquadah Generators (a smaller unit than the MK 1)
Distributed Naquadah Capacitors
Inertia dampeners

Fuel
Naquada
Water (recycled system)

Shielding
MKIIIa Colson Industries shield generator
CI Q12a series EM shield back up shield
(Incoming weapon hits usually covered by the standard shield, but when that fails the 'EM' shield can will problems for some incoming weapons but is limited in time, but allowing main shield generator to replinish. The Q12a will come online when main shields reach 25%)

Hull
Titanium/Incalloy/Trinium alloy matrix warhull
“Demon Skin” Diamond Battle Plating
(Monoque construction, no ribbed frame)

Sensor systems
CG340 Rayethon unique-multi phased array, 360 degree
Which includes surveillance,active jamming, targeting.
16 LIDAR Systems
Subspace Sensor System
6 Reconnaissance Probes
Navigation system SQS -49 Northrop CNS

Countermeasures
Electronic Counter Measures
Holographic Countermeasures
Scuttling Protocols
Venting Systems
Naquada Powerplant Cell Ejection Pod
Blast-door Lockdown System
Active Photoplate Camouflage

Other Systems
CON
Separate CIC one deck below active bridge
2 x Ring Platforms
2 x Beaming Stations
4 x Medbays
Optional Neural interfaces for command

Armament
3 x Heavy Plasma Cannon Turrets (CE) 5 (CG)
5 x Light Quad Pulse Cannon Turrets (CE) 3 (CG)
16 x 125mm Dual Railgun Turrets (85 RPM)
20 x VLS Missile Tubes (25 seconds reload from last launch each tube)
80 x Mark III and IV Nuclear Missiles
Optional Horizon Weapons Platform
Defensive decoy drones (will lock onto targets enegy signature and explode with a force of approx 80 tonnes TNT)


Complement
8 AC-401's (Various marks) CE
4 AC-401's CG or 8 F100's (CG only)

Crew
112 crew + Air Wing
Passengers (as per requirement)
100 Marines and or SF's

Cargo capacity
1600 tons
120 days worth of Consumables to 190 days if rationed.

Other systems
IBM contracted mainframe back up for CON
2 x Asgard Beam stations
2 x Ring Transporters (sourced from captured Al'kesh craft)
Long-range VHF SWIFT (Subspace Wireless In Formation Transceiver)
75 x Stasis Pods

Usage Role(s)
Attack and Escort Cruisers
Deep Space Escorts
Independent Patrol
Anti-Piracy
Customs
Peacekeeping
Disaster Relief
Leadship (Janet Fraiser) CE30
Year introduced 2015

History
The CG340 class was introduced as intermediate escort and attack ship, which could be produced quickly with modular production. It was designed from the outset to assist and escort larger fleet ships and be a primary platform in planetary defense, Easily repairable and upgraded, these small vessels can be utilized and assembled by even the most unindustrialized of our JFN allies. The class name reflects heroine's of all Earth nations, the lead ship being christened in honour and memory of the SGC's longest serving MO.

Notes:

I added the stasis projectors to allow the ship to carry such a large complement of SFs and other personnel without having to bear the huge life support burden required in terms of both recycling and entertainment, instead they are housed within a central chamber under stasis and retrieved as required.

The Water in the fuel section is there to generate the plasma for the Naqudah Pulse Propulsion drives, the actual naquadah pellets after all are tiny.

The “Demon Skin” armor is literally made up of solid diamond scales that are harvested from black dwarfs with beaming technology. Since carbon has the highest mass-vaporisation temperature ration on record, it would do quite well against plasma based weaponry. Crazy Tom

[Crazy Tom]

Oh and I've been thinking (dangerous yes I know)

The CAT loader in Aliens, Ellen Ripley used most effectively to get rid of Momma Alien, I think they should be standard gear on most ships and bases, what do you think?

Those are a bit too big to be practical, but since a lot of the crew is in VR anyways, Altairan style remote operated androids would be great for damage control. They can be easily replaced, and don't mind lack of air or radiation, plus they have full dexterity. UNEF can get the blueprints from Hubald and mass produce them.

[puddlejumperOZ]

Those are a bit too big to be practical, but since a lot of the crew is in VR anyways, Altairan style remote operated androids would be great for damage control. They can be easily replaced, and don't mind lack of air or radiation, plus they have full dexterity. UNEF can get the blueprints from Hubald and mass produce them.

I was thinking of them being used in the hangar decks and cargo holds in exactly the same way they were used in Aliens Tom, as loaders. Lifting heavy crates and missiles and so on. Forklifts and small trucks moving about within a space ship would create a bit of a hazard. The droids would be great for EVA work yes. Oh did you notice my disclaimer

[Crazy Tom]

I was thinking of them being used in the hangar decks and cargo holds in exactly the same way they were used in Aliens Tom, as loaders. Lifting heavy crates and missiles and so on. Forklifts and small trucks moving about within a space ship would create a bit of a hazard. The droids would be great for EVA work yes. Oh did you notice my disclaimer

Actually, i think I can solve your problem: Create a set of inertial dampeners that you can mount on various object by just strapping them on, you could have two guys moving a M1 tank with a bit of effort. Smaller than a forklift and less dangerous, since it effectively reduces the weight of an object, so dropping a missile would still bruise your toes, but at least it won't go off BSG style.

Yeah I did, always fancied myself as a "Industries" kind of guy, myself.